Editing Category:Deltarune fan theories ontology (section)

== Misc ==

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{{HueNumber|Q618/Fy|class=field_horror|Q=618|dimension=S2|Mancountry is where humans fled to in Deltarune}}
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<li value="618" class="field_horror" data-dimension="S2">Deltarune has only one ending
</li><li value="618" class="field_horror" data-dimension="S2">Deltarune has multiple endings
</li><li value="618" class="field_horror" data-dimension="S2">Deltarune has only one ending... because the Weird Route doesn't end
</li><li value="618" class="field_horror" data-dimension="S2" data-submitter="RD">Deltarune has only one ending... because it doesn't end at all without the true ending  ->  this would explain why toby fox believed some people might find the game disappointing. the only thing clichéd about Deltarune would be that it has one ending, and the ending is the best way things could happen. of course, people didn't hate that same thing being basically the case in Undertale, so they probably wouldn't care.
</li><li value="618" class="field_horror" data-dimension="S2">Deltarune has a unique ending for playing the chapters out of order / The single ending of Deltarune will come from playing the chapters out of order  ->  the egg man really focused on the notion of "in any order at all". what if you used the eggs to rearrange the chapters into the order he said instead of from 1 to 7? my prediction is that the single ending of Deltarune happens only when you do this and otherwise the story simply {{em|terminates}} rather than ends. it doesn't take Noelle to creepypasta the story, Kris already creepypasta'd the story before the game booted up by endlessly avoiding the major conflicts of the story. kind of funny how fictional stories totally revolve around single characters for the world to even exist, isn't it? that's what I think is going on. the story revolving around three teenagers is a bit of silliness, a bit of book logic, but if they don't play their part then the story doesn't end and the world tears to pieces before the story actually ends. that makes a lot of sense as a way a dream could end; any number of people have had dreams that ended before the "story" inside ended. it's actually one of the more common ways for things to end — we've all had that one disappointing VHS tape that didn't catch the end of a TV show or movie, or in more recent times, maybe a video that was playing when the phone totally shut off.

</li><li value="618" class="field_horror element_empty" data-dimension="F2">The Knight is left-handed  ->  this is at best rather ambiguous. it's easy to argue The Knight is right-handed, depending on which actions you believe take more motor control. the sword is held in The Knight's left hand. the snow attack comes from the right hand. the sword slashes come from the right hand. so... there is more evidence the Knight is right-handed. the only counterpoint is if sprite directions don't matter in Deltarune and characters are casually flipped to the point of using both hands. I'm not sure if that's true or false.

</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">Dess is not the same entity as The Knight  ->  not mutually exclusive with the statement "The Knight <em>is Dess</em>". baby Trunks is not adult Trunks on the other timeline. Kris is never Chara on the Deltarune timeline, even if they are in Undertale. likewise The Knight can be a memory of Dess without actually being made of dust or anything

</li><li class="field_horror element_empty" value="618" data-dimension="S2">Dess and Gaster are the same person  ->  impossible with most models, only likely to be true if the forgotten man is Dess. but if that's true, it would explain a lot of other things.

</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="618" data-dimension="S">power (Deltarune)
</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">The plugs are peons because Queen is drawing power out of them  ->  this is definitely a double-meaning pun, because it wouldn't make as much sense literally without the word power

</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">The snowman is a metaphor for Dess  ->  you can take a piece of it out of the Underground, but it won't be the whole thing.

</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="618" data-dimension="S">"there is no sin or confession in our religion"
</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">Deltarune's religion promises no afterlife / Deltarune's religion does not promise an afterlife

</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">Gerson becoming a statue was a metaphor  ->  think about it. Darkners that aren't part of the current "game" (very Wittgensteinian use of the word game) turn into statues. Susie tried to restart the Dark World to recreate Gerson, but she got a statue. what if these are metaphorically the same thing, even though they shouldn't be literally the same thing? Gerson may be some kind of non-explicit foreshadowing of what is going to happen to everyone in Deltarune. the fact he's dead is a little bit of thematic seasoning hinting to us what Goner means without saying it out loud. everyone in Deltarune can cease to be... they think this only means dying and being buried, but there's actually more to it than that. there's being dead, but there's also being a Goner. all dead monsters eventually become Goners, but all currently alive monsters can also become Goners. monsters and humans become Goners when the world dies, whether they are currently dead or not. it also might be possible to become a Goner by slipping out of the game world into some other game world, because somehow that takes away the rules (stage magic?) that makes the characters exist. creating a new Dark World can revive the dead, but it can't revive Goners. that's what Susie's fountain means, that Gerson metaphorically became a Goner because he was in the wrong fountain even if literally he would become possible in the right fountain. the Gerson incident is important because it gives the bigger picture — even if Susie and Kris have hope in the moment, the future is much scarier and they're going to have to realize that.<br />
thought 2: "no sin or confession in our religion" wasn't just a funny joke. it was hinting at a third possible fact: the Deltarune religion contains no afterlife, and everyone is horrified to eventually discover this contradiction.

</li><li class="field_horror element_empty" value="618" data-dimension="S2">We mustn't know Kris made Wingdings / Kris' name was censored to hide Gaster lore / The name Kris had to be censored out of the art book because Kris is the name of the creator of Wingdings and fans would figure out that the name Kris was intended to be connected to Gaster

</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">Closing all Dark Fountains would cause Lightners to become disembodied minds  ->  this is following from the claim that the Dark Worlds specifically represent a collective mind and the interaction between mind and reality. if the Dark Worlds' are Kris and Noelle's mind, what even happens if you close them? did December turn into The Knight due to closing all the Dark Worlds, maybe while she was still inside one?

</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">When Susie sees the blank prophecy, she sees a weird eldritch counterpart of the player created by the darkness that separates her from toby fox's world  ->  this is how the Dark Worlds work. every object is reflected into the Dark World as some weird thing created by Lightner minds and the Darkness that can only be seen inside the Dark World. what if the Lightners are seeing the same thing happening to the Angel? this doesn't totally exclude the prophecy also making a joke about the reflection. Ralsei says the reflection is what the Angel really looks like and Susie is like, is that really true? but it's not true exactly because she can only see the Light World version of the Angel. thus Ralsei saying it is is a joke, although it's also technically true.

</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="618" data-dimension="S2">December Holiday is an adopted human  ->  I kinda like this theory because we don't really have strong evidence she isn't. Dess has never been shown to players. it would make Noelle make more sense, because maybe it would be more appealing to have a monster child if they only have an adopted one. the Holiday family would mirror the Dreemurr family. I don't really see why this couldn't be true. the Roaring Knight having antlers and being some kind of apparent psychological projection of guilt about losing Dess is the only real reason to think that Dess had antlers. but Kris was wearing a horned headband. how do we know Dess didn't do that too

</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="618" data-dimension="S2">The Vessel will have Frisk's palette / When the Vessel reaches the Light World it will look like Frisk  ->  this is the other interpretation of there being two characters at the start of both games. Gaster's very suspicious plan was to create Frisk when they were not supposed to exist. point number two for this: in Undertale Frisk is shaped by the story, and on the genocide route <em>somebody</em> narrates much darker things. if Frisk was always shaped by player input. wouldn't it make a lot of sense if in Deltarune Frisk is replaced by the Vessel?

</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">The Vessel discarded itself to get away from the Angel  ->  not the first thing anyone would think of, but a funny concept. if Goners can talk in Undertale, hey, why not? it's also believable that something that looks like Kris, who has resisted the Angel and has constantly been connected to statements about death (probably just to heavily hint that Kris is Chara), would try to stop existing. if Kris resists, why would the Vessel be a proper vessel and obey either? there probably is <em>something</em> to the fact that there are two similar main characters at the start of both Undertale and Deltarune but each time one of them is gone.

</li><li class="field_horror" value="618" data-dimension="S2">The Weird Route existed prior to the main route / The Weird Route is the original prophecy

</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="6643" data-dimension="S2">Dark Fountains are created when a Lightner opens a wound in the earth
</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="6644" data-dimension="S2">Dark Fountains are created when a Lightner cracks open the limited box of reality  ->  combines claims: blank void outside of reality is fountain of imagination

</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="618" data-dimension="S2">Kris is the Deltarune version of Frisk
</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="618" data-dimension="S2">Kris is the Deltarune version of <b class="caps">Chara</b>  ->  if you have the interpretation that "Chara" is a placeholder string and "true name" is a joke, seems kind of obvious

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