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== Main entry ==
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{{li|start=y|I=F2/ES|Q=30,56|Q2=3056|h4 = Real life doesn't contain battles }}  ->  ever read a history book? it certainly used to. depending on your definition, real life also contains battles every time an Archon makes a terrible decision and prompts a protest.

{{li|I=S2/UTDR|tradition=UTDR, Fy|Q=30,56|Q2=3056}}Real life doesn't contain battles  ->  this statement appeared in {{game|Deltarune}}.<br/>
"{{i|[Susie:]}} I've never... had an adventure like this before. With axes... and battles... and magic. Where everything can be healed with a little spell." [https://hushbugger.github.io/deltarune/text/]<br/>
now, Susie is a teenager. so of course she is going to make mistakes in trying to give a complete explanation of what "real life" is. but my problem is that people reviewing the game just kept repeating this claim unquestioningly like it was true, and I can't remember a single video where I saw anyone stop and go "...wait, but that technically isn't true, Susie just doesn't know that battles are found in history books and playing cards and console RPGs are loose references to history."<br/>
it only really gets worse when there is a <strong>historian</strong> character in the game who essentially tells Susie that she can change history just by not believing everybody else's narratives, and everybody just repeats {{em|that}} uncritically too.

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== Counter-claims ==

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{{li|start=y|I=S2/MX|Q=30,55|Q2=3055|h4 = History books contain battles }}  ->  sounds like a tautology out of context, but is apparently a genuinely radical thing to say in the context of why people write fiction.

{{li|I=S2/ML|Q=22,17|Q2=2217| h4 = Strikes are acts of courage }} / ([[User:RD/9k/Q22,17|9k]])

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== Related ==

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{{li|start=y|I=S0/Fy|Q=30,54|Q2=3054| h4 = assertion real thing is fictional }} / assertion that real thing appearing in fiction is instead fictional / ([[User:RD/9k/Q30,54|9k]])

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== Ideologies ==

* Fy / fiction
* Fy / fantasy genre
* UTDR / Deltarune
* ES / postmodern philosophy
* Aa / Jungian literary analysis
* MX / meta-Marxism
* ML / historical materialism

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