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<h2 id="section-12000"><span class="mw-headline">10249 - 13200</span> <span class="mw-editsection plainlinks"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span>[https://research.moraleconomy.au/index.php?title=User:Reversedragon/FirstNineThousand/12000&action=edit edit]<span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> National Pokédex, and various items that simply didn't fit earlier. <!-- value before classname = intended number / value after classname = only to make QID numbers searchable --> <noinclude>{{HueCSS}}</noinclude><ol start="10249" class="hue clean"> <li class="field_geo" value="10250" data-dimension="S0">hypothetical battle </li><li class="field_geo" value="10251" data-dimension="S">power scaling / power level calculations </li><li class="field_geo" value="10252" data-dimension="S">[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5kLSRZMDI8 one billion lions] </li><li class="field_horror" value="10253" data-dimension="S">black hole (opponent) </li><li class="number_empty" value="10254">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10255">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10256">?? </li><li value="10257" class="field_fantasy" data-dimension="S">Super Dragon Balls </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10258" data-dimension="S">Super Shenron </li><li class="number_empty" value="10280"> </li><li class="number_empty" value="10290"> </li><li class="number_empty" value="10300">(... [[:Category:Glitch Pokémon ontology|literal Missingno. entries]]) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10302" data-dimension="S">Pokémon form / Pokémon visual form / Pokémon variant within single stage </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10303" data-serial="90" data-dimension="S">Spiral Shellder / Turbann (theories) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10304" data-serial="95" data-dimension="S">Crystal Onix </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10309">(... beta Pokémon) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10310" data-volume="6">[S] split Mega evolution </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10311" data-serial="">[S] Mega Venusaur </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10312" data-serial="">[S] Mega Charizard X </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10313" data-serial="">[S] Mega Charizard Y </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10314" data-serial="">[S] Mega Blastoise </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10315" data-serial="">[S] Mega Beedrill </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10316" data-serial="">[S] Mega Pidgeot </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10317" data-serial="">[S] Mega Gyarados </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10318" data-serial="">[S] Mega Mewtwo X </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10319" data-serial="">[S] Mega Mewtwo Y </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10320" data-serial="65">[S] Mega Alakazam </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10321" data-serial="80">[S] Mega Slowbro </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10322" data-serial="94">[S] Mega Gengar </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10323" data-serial="">[S] Mega Kangaskhan </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10324" data-serial="">[S] Mega Pinsir </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10325" data-serial="">[S] Mega Aerodactyl </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10326" data-serial="212">[S] Mega Scizor </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10327" data-serial="214">[S] Mega Heracross </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10328" data-serial="208">[S] Mega Steelix </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10329" data-serial="">[S] Mega Ampharos </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10330" data-volume="4,6">[S] Primal form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10331">[S] Castform (Normal form) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10332">[S] Castform (Sunny form) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10333">[S] Castform (Rainy form) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10334">[S] Castform (Snowy form) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10335" data-serial="382">[S] Primal Kyogre </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10336" data-serial="383">[S] Primal Groudon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10337" data-serial="386">[S] Deoxys Attack form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10338" data-serial="386">[S] Deoxys Defense form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10339" data-serial="386">[S] Deoxys Speed form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10340" data-volume="4,8">[S] Origin form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10341" data-serial="">[S] Shellos West Sea </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10342" data-serial="">[S] Gastrodon West Sea </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10343" data-serial="">[S] Shellos East Sea </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10344" data-serial="">[S] Gastrodon East Sea </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10345" data-serial="">[S] Shadow Lugia </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10346" data-serial="">[S] Dark Dialga (Explorers of Time/Darkness) / Primal Dialga </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10347" data-serial="">[S] Origin Dialga </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10348" data-serial="">[S] Origin Palkia </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10349" data-serial="">[S] Origin Giratina </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10350" data-volume="6">[S] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mega_Evolution#Pok%C3%A9mon_capable_of_Mega_Evolution Mega-evolved form] </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10351" data-serial="229">[S] Mega Houndoom </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10352" data-serial="248">[S] Mega Tyranitar </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10353" data-serial="254">[S] Mega Sceptile </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10354" data-serial="257">[S] Mega Blaziken </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10355" data-serial="260">[S] Mega Swampert </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10356" data-serial="">[S] Mega Gardevoir </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10357" data-serial="302">[S] Mega Sableye </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10358" data-serial="303">[S] Mega Mawile </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10359" data-serial="384">[S] Mega Rayquaza </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10360" data-serial="">[S] Mega Aggron </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10361" data-serial="">[S] Mega Medicham </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10362" data-serial="310">[S] Mega Manetric </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10363" data-serial="319">[S] Mega Sharpedo </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10364" data-serial="323">[S] Mega Camerupt </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10365" data-serial="">[S] Mega Altaria </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10366" data-serial="">[S] Mega Banette </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10367" data-serial="359">[S] Mega Absol </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10368" data-serial="362">[S] Mega Glalie </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10369" data-serial="373">[S] Mega Salamence </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10370" data-serial="375">[S] Mega Gallade </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10371" data-serial="376">[S] Mega Metagross </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10372" data-serial="380">[S] Mega Latias </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10373" data-serial="381">[S] Mega Latios </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10374" data-serial="428">[S] Mega Lopunny </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10375" data-serial="445">[S] Mega Garchomp </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10376" data-serial="448">[S] Mega Lucario </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10377" data-serial="460">[S] Mega Abomasnow </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10378" data-serial="531">[S] Mega Audino </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10379" data-serial="719">[S] Mega Diancie </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10380" data-volume="7">[S] Pokémon regional form / Alolan form / Galar form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10381" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Rattata </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10382" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Raticate </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10383" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Raichu </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10384" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Sandshrew </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10385" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Sandslash </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10386" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Vulpix </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10387" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Ninetales </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10388" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Diglett </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10389" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Dugtrio </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10390" data-volume="7">[S] Alolan form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10391" data-volume="">[S] Alolan Meowth </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10392" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Persian </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10393" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Geodude </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10394" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Graveler </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10395" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Golem </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10396" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Grimer </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10397" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Muk </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10398" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Exeggutor </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10399" data-serial="">[S] Alolan Marowak </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10400" data-serial="">[S] Galar Meowth </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10401" data-volume="">[S] Galar Ponyta </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10402" data-serial="">[S] Galar Rapidash </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10403" data-serial="">[S] Galar Farfetch'd </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10404" data-serial="">[S] Galar Weezing </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10405" data-serial="">[S] Galar Zigzagoon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10406" data-serial="">[S] Galar Linoone </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10407" data-serial="">[S] Galar Articuno </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10408" data-serial="">[S] Galar Zapdos </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10409" data-serial="">[S] Galar Moltres </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10410" data-serial="">[S] Galar Mr. Mime </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10411" data-volume="">[S] Galar Slowpoke </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10412" data-serial="">[S] Galar Slowbro </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10413" data-serial="">[S] Galar Slowking </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10414" data-serial="">[S] Galar Corsola </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10415" data-serial="">[S] Galar Darumaka </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10416" data-serial="">[S] Galar Darmanitan Standard Mode </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10417" data-serial="">[S] Galar Darmanitan Zen Mode </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10418" data-serial="">[S] Galar Yamask </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10419" data-serial="">[S] Galar Stunfisk </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10420" data-volume="">[S] Hisui Growlithe </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10421" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Arcanine </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10422" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Voltorb </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10423" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Electrode </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10424" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Typhlosion </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10425" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Qwilfish </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10426" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Sneasel </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10427" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Samurott </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10428" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Lilligant </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10429" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Braviary </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10430" data-volume="">[S] Hisui Zorua </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10431" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Zoroark </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10432" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Sliggoo </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10433" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Goodra </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10434" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Avalugg </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10435" data-serial="">[S] Hisui Decidueye </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10436" data-serial="">[S] Bloodmoon Ursaluna </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10437" data-serial="">[S] White-Stripe Basculin </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10438" data-serial="">[S] Male Basculegion </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10439" data-serial="">[S] Female Basculegion </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10440" data-volume="9">[S] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Paradox_Pok%C3%A9mon Paradox Pokémon] </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10441" data-serial="">[S] Terastallized state </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10442" data-serial="">[S] Paldean form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10443" data-serial="">[S] Paldean Tauros (Combat Breed) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10444" data-serial="">[S] Paldean Tauros (Blaze Breed) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10445" data-serial="">[S] Paldean Tauros (Aqua Breed) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10446" data-serial="">[S] Paldean Wooper </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10447" data-serial="">[S] Normal Terapagos </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10448" data-serial="">[S] Terastal Terapagos </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10449" data-serial="">[S] Stellar Terapagos </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10450" data-volume="8">[S] Gigantamax form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10451">[S] Gigantamax Venusaur </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10452">[S] Gigantamax Charizard </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10453">[S] Gigantamax Blastoise </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10454">[S] Gigantamax Pikachu </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10455">[S] Gigantamax Meowth </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10456">[S] Gigantamax Eevee </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10457" data-serial="812">[S] Gigantamax Rillaboom </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10458" data-serial="815">[S] Gigantamax Cinderace </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10459" data-serial="818">[S] Gigantamax Inteleon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10460">[S] Gigantamax Butterfree </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10461">[S] Gigantamax Machamp </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10462">[S] Gigantamax Gengar </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10463">[S] Gigantamax Kingler </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10464">[S] Gigantamax Lapras </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10465">[S] Gigantamax Snorlax </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10466">[S] Gigantamax Garbodor </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10467">[S] Gigantamax Melmetal </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10468" data-serial="823">[S] Gigantamax Corviknight </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10469">[S] Gigantamax Orbeetle </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10470">[S] Gigantamax Drednaw </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10471">[S] Gigantamax Coalossal </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10472">[S] Gigantamax Applin / Gigantamax Flapple / Gigantamax Appletun </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10473">[S] Gigantamax Sandaconda </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10474">[S] Gigantamax Toxtricity </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10475">[S] Gigantamax Centiscorch </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10476">[S] Gigantamax Hatterene </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10477">[S] Gigantamax Grimmsnarl </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10478" data-serial="892">[S] Gigantamax Urshifu (Single Strike) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10479" data-serial="892">[S] Gigantamax Urshifu (Rapid Strike) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10480">[S] enigma-tier Pokémon / Ultra Beast tier / Paradox tier / Pokémon from another realm using Legendary Pokémon conventions </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10481">[S] Gigantamax Alcremie </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10482">[S] Gigantamax Copperajah </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10483">[S] Gigantamax Duraludon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10484">[S] Basic form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10485">[S] Battle form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10486">[S] Ride form </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10487">[S] Battle Cyclizar </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10488">[S] Apex Koraidon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10489">[S] Ultimate Miraidon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10490">[S] method of obtaining Pokémon -> in cave and only one, etc. </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10491">[S] available in wild </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10492">[S] one encounter available in specific location </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10493">[S] raid battle / raid battle (Pokémon Sword/Shield) / raid battle (Pokémon Go) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10494">[S] environmental trace / shaking grass (Pokémon) / rippling water (Pokémon) / dust clouds (Pokémon) / overhead shadow (Pokémon) / [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ambush_encounter shaking trash can] (Pokémon) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10495">[S] Pokémon feeder / joining (Pokémon gen 8) / honey tree (Pokémon gen 4) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10496">[S] Pokémon day care </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10497">[S] gift Pokémon / in-game trade </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10498">[S] scripted story event </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10499">[S] event distribution </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10500">(... generations) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10520">[S] Legendary Pokémon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10521">[S] Box Legendary </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10522">[S] dungeon Legendary / cave Legendary / ARG Legendary </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10523">[S] Roaming Legendary </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10524">[S] cosmic Legendary / pantheon deity Legendary </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10525">[S] doom Legendary -> Mewtwo, Deoxys, Necrozma, Eternatus </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10526">[S] type drive Legendary -> Silvally, Arceus, Genesect </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10527">[S] unique hero Pokémon / unique antagonist Pokémon -> Zoroark, Zeraora, Kubfu, Zarude </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10528">[S] event Legendary / tie-in Legendary </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10529">[S] Mythical Pokémon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10530">[S] movie-relevant Pokémon / movie figurehead Pokémon -> doesn't have to be Legendaries, if there's a movie totally centered on Eevee, or Zoroark </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10531">[S] fusion Legendary </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10532">[S] fusable Legendary </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10533">[S] composite Legendary -> Melmetal, Zygarde </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10534">[S] event-distributed form of regular Pokémon -> Zoroark, Own Tempo Rockruff, etc. </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10535">[S] Pokémon with special-edition forms -> Pichu, Pikachu & Eevee, Greninja </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10536">[S] Pokémon with natural variations -> Shellos, Basculin, Pumpkaboo, Sinistea, Sinistcha, Dudunsparce </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10537">[S] Pokémon with branched evolutions </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10538">[S] pseudo-legendary Pokémon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10539">[S] fossil Pokémon -> clearly not a type of Legendary, but put here to stop me wondering if Dracozolt is an enigma-tier. enigmas are Legendaries that seem like they should be regular, fossil Pokémon are fossil Pokémon </li><li class="number_empty" value="10540">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10541">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10542">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10543">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10544">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10545">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10546">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10547">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10548">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10549">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10600">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10700">Pokémon technique / Pokémon move </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10719">(... [[Ontology:Q10719|Stellar-type move]]) </li><li class="number_empty" value="10720">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10730">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10740">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10750">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10760">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10770">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10780">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10799">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10819">(... [[:Category:Pokémon types ontology|Pokémon types]]) </li><li class="number_empty" value="10820">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10830">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10840">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10850">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10860">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10870">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10880">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10899">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10919">(... [[:Category:Pokémon types ontology|Pokémon of Types]]) </li><li class="number_empty" value="10920">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10929">Baby Pokémon </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10930">Basic Pokémon (main series) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10931">Stage 1 Pokémon (main series) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10932">Stage 2 Pokémon (main series) </li><li class="number_empty" value="10903">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10904">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10905">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="10906">Mega evolution stage / Primal reversion stage </li><li class="number_empty" value="10907">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10908">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="10909">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="11000">[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_National_Pok%C3%A9dex_number National Pokédex] -> has serialized parts: every single Pokémon ever. </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="11001">Bulbasaur (<cite>Pokémon</cite>; gen 1 / Kanto) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="11002">(... National Pokédex) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12025">Pecharunt (<cite>Pokémon</cite>; gen 10 / Paldea) -> last known Pokémon as of 2025. do <em>not</em> reserve the next hundred slots for Pokédex slots, just start over on a clean hundred when the next game comes out. </li><li class="number_empty" value="12026">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12030">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12035">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12040">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12045">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12050">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12055">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12060">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12065">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12070">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12075">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12080">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12085">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12089">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12090" data-dimension="S">So Sorry (Undertale) </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12091" data-dimension="S">invented species (furry fandom) / original species / open species (generic) / closed species (generic) </li><li class="field_mdem" value="12092" data-dimension="S2" data-submitter="Valenoern">Closed species are a microcosm of society / The structure of "closed species" fan circles is a limited model of how society functions under capitalism in general, by featuring visible status symbols that people compete for through labor or money and push subtle shame onto each other for only having been able to get the basic ones and not having been able to claim the best ones / Microtransactions to get rare avatars, companions, or cosmetic items are a microcosm of how real-world capitalist societies function<br /> if you ask me, I don't think it's positively immoral to put this kind of thing in a game, like your country forms a Molecular Marxism and you're absolutely banned from making an MMO with a Chimereon upgrades store and it's all over the party platform or such, but I do think it's vaguely annoying. I think it's annoying to try to escape reality by playing a game and have thrown at you exactly what you've been trying to escape and not think about. I find it annoying that nobody is imaginative enough to find any better ways to design games. </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12093" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12094" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12095" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12096" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12097" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12098" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12099" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12100" data-qid="12,100" data-dimension="Z">[[Ontology:Q12,100|nonsensical scam advertiser]] / spambot (automated nonsensical advertiser) -> I'm broadening the total definition of spambot to include Third-World scammers, because they have seriously interesting stories behind them that are worth talking about. Deltarune making the [[E:Spamton|scammer character]] have a few real emotions was wired. although the one thing I slightly object to sometimes is how creating a softly-whitewashed "I could be anybody" character erases the great difference between First-World and Third-World countries that actually creates a lot of real-world scammers. it's like structural racism only it's very very big. </li><li class="field_exstruct" value="12101" data-dimension="S">[[Ontology:Q12,101|Nigerian prince scam]] -> everyone who isn't old has heard of these. fewer people actually know about the living conditions of the people sending these emails. </li><li class="field_exstruct" value="12102" data-dimension="S">[[Ontology:Q12,102|Taiwanese massage degrees going to Turkey]] [https://research.moraleconomy.au/index.php?title=User:PeterGuerin5] -> analyzing the motifs of spambots? of course. spambots tell some of the most interesting stories when you really, really look deep into them. look at how much history is behind Nigerian prince scams and "yahoos" alone. there's definitely something going on in either Taiwan or Turkey which is not good. are the people of Taiwan desperate? are they funneling people out of poorer countries to go to Taiwanese universities and go to Turkey? are they recruiting people out of Turkey to go to Taiwan and go back to Turkey? right now I don't quite get what's going on. </li><li class="number_empty" value="12103">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12104">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12105">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12106">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12107">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12108">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12109">?? </li><li class="field_exstruct" value="12110" data-dimension="S">[[Ontology:Q12,1,10|cursed export]] / paying Third-World people for footage of things that would be crimes [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQY6qJWbDAY] -> what it says. in reference to the below Items. </li><li class="field_exstruct" value="12111" data-dimension="S2">[[Ontology:Q12,1,11|The Khmer Rouge left Cambodians with nothing but monkey abuse]] / The abuses of the Khmer Rouge left Cambodians with nothing but monkey abuse / The Khmer Rouge stopped Cambodia from having any doctors and left them with nothing but selling monkey torture -> I don't have a lot of information about the reality of what happened with the Khmer Rouge, but this is a pretty outrageous thing to claim with a straight face. looking at the most important part of the claim, that being in a poor country is bad, it would be just as accurate to say that people showing up from other countries with money is harmful and dangerous to a country because the people with money can pay money for this, or for people to sell the United States slaves, and only Mao or Kim Il-Sung putting up a barrier around the country and forcing it to develop inside itself can prevent slavery and monkey abuse. cursed exports are weirdly like a reverse Nigerian prince scam. both of them are a kind of toxic connection between a First-World country and a Third-World country which doesn't create anything productive and where everyone would have been better off if that one particular interaction between the two countries didn't happen. </li><li class="field_mdem" value="12112" data-dimension="S2">[[Ontology:Q12,1,12|Only Kim Il-Sung can prevent monkey abuse]] / Protectionism prevents cursed exports such as animal abuse for money / If Indonesia transitioned to Deng Xiaoping Thought, there would be no monkey abuse -> a bit of a troll proposition, but it does make you ask what's wrong with it. if a country creates Juche-socialism and closes itself up, at whatever peril comes with that, it <em>will</em> almost certainly prevent US people showing up with a bizarre amount of money to pay the country for the world's weirdest export. everyone will be busy stumbling to create industries inside the country. so there are downsides but there are also clear upsides.<br /> (next proposition merged) I keep thinking about how one of the single most successful policies of workers' states has simply been refusing connections from the outside until they're ready. is this to say it's possible to go directly to Deng Xiaoping Thought before trying to create Bolshevism, and it isn't a form unique to a country sliding backward? have we been interpreting history wrong? and if so, what exactly is the logic for Deng Xiaoping Thought actually being a necessary step — what is achieved by gaining solid control over the internal borders of a country if the Archons of the population still drive it? what's the huge reward everybody gets from those Archons being free from the outside world? I feel like answering that could yield a significant breakthrough in understanding Liberalism as well as Third-World countries. this is clearly a hugely important step for some reason, so important that the United States is desperately trying to do it erratically across the inside of the United States. </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12113" data-dimension="S2">Vladimir Nabokov -> author of disturbing [[E:Lolita (Nabokov 1955)|book]] that keeps getting grandfathered in while at various times similar writings wrote any year after it get blocked. (Definitely not all of them though.)<br /> this Item itself is Take It Seriously but at the same time I could see some very funny usages of it in Wavebuilder combinations; he may be a questionable person but he's kind of a choice [[E:Cards Against Humanity|white card]]. </li><li class="field_horror" value="12114" data-dimension="S">Sam polarizing the Undertale fanbase / So Sorry, furry porn, and the {{censor|floraverse discord}} scandal </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12115" data-dimension="S2">{{book|Lolita}} is just a book / {{book|Lolita}} is okay because escapism is okay -> please do not enter {{book|Lolita}} into the first 10,000 Items. or anything that manages to be more disturbing. if it becomes necessary to some other entry, then you may enter it at a later number. I entered the "Warriors discourse" Item after 10k. these two Items show the threshold of nasty allowed, anything where the topic {{em|isn't}} "right there in your face" to where it's difficult to bury deep inside the article text can go below 10k. </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12116" data-dimension="S2">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12117" data-dimension="S2">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12118" data-dimension="S2">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12119" data-dimension="S2">zoophilia -> this item will mostly not be used in relation to real-world crimes as much as in discussing the nature of art and the relationship between art and reality. you know, discourse where people get mad about getting mad about art. usually it would seem like this discussion is stupid and there's nothing to be learned here. but actually, if you look into it with a real ability for media analysis you learn a lot about the nature of how art represents things and what it represents, even "normally" when it's not depicting anything weird or disturbing; you learn a lot about the concepts of Media Representation and how every act of publishing art or posting something in the open serves as a speech act that reveals people's character no matter how much death of the author you invoke. talking about whether furries are allowed to draw two Jack-London characters banging might actually be one of the only way to start teaching furries Materialism and why almost every work of fiction has some potential to be used to explain Communist revolutions and socialist transition. </li><li class="field_horror" value="12120" data-dimension="S">{{censor|sexual content of animal characters / feral porn}} / dubious pictures of Firestar </li><li class="field_horror" value="12121" data-dimension="S">Not analyzing zoophilia is anti-intellectualism / Not discussing the sociology and psychology of {{censor|bestiality}} is anti-intellectualism -> one day, there was a weird little discussion about this on the internet. {{YouTube|DGwiyyZhNpM}} then a particular aspiring Marxist theorist found it (not me. they post big long reading lists) and made a post about how it was really stupid*. I had no real opinion on it back then. now... I think I actually agree with the original poster, but for very different reasons than they had. I think that this topic takes on a very different context among furries, who are generally really stupid about politics and morality even within the bounds of Liberal-republicanism, but where this is about the only actual philosophical issue they talk about which could legitimately be used to shake up their entire worldview and get them to think of reality in Materialist terms. you think I'm joking. but it's the only thing they care about. whether they can draw the things they want to or other people will get scared of them and the "community" will fracture.<br /> furries are very anarchist in some of [[E:anarcho-Toryism|the worst senses]]. they truly believe society is made of nothing but social bonds and choices. they think there are actually correct answers to how to behave at people, rather than it being a matter of getting to know and bond with the person before you can even guess what would upset them. they believe in "don't like, don't read", but they aren't willing to face the consequences that come with shamelessly being themselves of losing relationships and having people hate their personal identities when they post something disturbing. they'll accept the line that cops are bad, say that a bunch of totally heterogeneous things definitely belongs in the same Community [[E:schizoanalysis|just because totally different things naturally love each other]], then get really upset when it turns out the heterogeneous things don't belong together and they're all mad at each other and some of them occasionally want to do real violence to each other (ok, that's happened in fandoms more than to furries but the overall process is the same). I'm kind of sick of it. I wish furries would [[E:existential materialism|learn Materialism]] and start to realize that only awareness of how to shape the actual shapes, arrangements, and nestings of their Communities would fix the behavior inside those things.<br /> <ins>*edit:</ins> I rewatched the video. all the arguments in it from any of the people {{em|were}} pretty stupid. but they were stupid in a specific way, for a specific reason. the video kept invoking traditional philosophy and this specific way people treat philosophy like it's all totally arbitrary and has nothing to do with anything. "a consequentialist—" what. it's one thing to divide people up by their entire worldview they live their lives by like Liberal-republican, Tory, Trotskyist, Southern Baptist Christian, furry. but nobody actually goes around making all their decisions as a "consequentialist". </li><li class="field_horror" value="12122" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12123" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12124" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12125" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12126" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12127" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12128" data-dimension="S">?? </li><li class="field_horror" value="12129" data-dimension="S2">Wanting human nonexistence is like {{censor|drawing porn}} of Firestar / If it's okay to draw {{censor|Warrior cats having sex}}, it's okay to say humans should never have existed / ... it has to be applied onto the conditions of the real world (censored title) -> in any given worldview, both of these things are "morally wrong" for essentially the same reason. explicit {{censor|content about unrealistic beasts}} is generally deemed bad because the concept of roleplaying a world where there are no humans cannot be separated from real-life humans who think about it existing. if people can fully separate real world from hypothetical world and take the hypothetical world as self-contained, then it should not be immediately harmful, but problems always come up where the person talking about the hypothetical world is taken as performing a speech act that applies to the relationship between the real person and real people. the problem with saying humans never should have existed is essentially the same situation. for the hypothetical to have any bite and say anything meaningful about the real world, it has to be applied onto the conditions of the real world, where individuals exist and say things and each individual has the ability to kill maybe ten people or a hundred or end their own life but never has the ability to wipe out all of humanity or make humanity painlessly have never existed. whether somebody entertaining this hypothetical will commit any such offenses is unclear, {{em|seems}} unlikely, but in terms of indirect effects you never know.<br /> (This entry is censored just so while scrolling the prototype you don't have to look at it over and over. <s>Whether this kind of thing is actually forbidden in outward-facing Item labels is still up in the air.</s> edit: Nah. I think it will be. Outward-facing Item labels are meant to communicate things super-clearly, including what the rules are.) </li><li class="number_empty" value="12300">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12325">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12350">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12400">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12425">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12430">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12440">?? </li><li class="field_trotsky" value="12444" data-dimension="S">Trotskyist theorist depicted as furry </li><li class="field_trotsky" value="12445" data-dimension="S">furry version of Leon Trotsky -> this should not be a motif except that while going way too far into deltarune AUs I ended up making one so yeah </li><li class="number_empty" value="12450">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12500">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12550">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12600">?? </li><li class="field_fantasy" value="12620" data-dimension="S">furry fandom </li><li value="12621" class="field_fantasy" data-dimension="S">furry porn -> why is this like, the top political issue for normal people. nothing else truly matters except whether or not you can put {{censor|weird genitalia}} on your fursona and whether you can draw {{censor|Jack London wolves banging}}. people have genuine thought-out debates about this, then they go through life expecting everyone to magically become a good person educated on everything, and acting like actually discussing anything about the way societies form or develop is stupid.<br /> well, I'm getting my revenge now. I'm going to analyze the {{censor|fuck}} out of furry discourse and how it relates to Materialism and make them all learn something. </li><li class="number_empty" value="12650">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12700">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12750">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12800">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12850">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12900">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12910">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12920">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12930">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12940">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12950">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12960">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12970">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12980">?? </li><li class="number_empty" value="12990">?? </li><li class="field_geo" value="13000">periodic table of elements </li><li class="field_geo" value="13001">Hydrogen (H) </li><li class="field_geo" value="13002">Helium (He) </li><li class="field_geo" value="13118">Oganesson (Og) </li><li class="field_geo" value="13200">(... reserved for future element discoveries, unless there is good evidence heavier elements stop being possible before 200) </li><li class="field_geo" value="13201">island of stability </li></ol><noinclude> [[Category:Current proposals]]</noinclude>
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