Ontology:NoelleRubyNonTheory - Revision history

Reversedragon: link: intuitively-false fan theory

2025-07-22T07:26:02Z

link: intuitively-false fan theory

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	{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| December Holiday somehow changed her name and appearance to become Noelle (Dess; Deltarune) }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| December Holiday somehow changed her name and appearance to become Noelle (Dess; Deltarune) }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| -- }} <!-- en: QID references -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| -- }} <!-- en: QID references -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| {{E:Q7617}} }} <!-- en: field Deltarune -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| {{E:Q7617\|C=M}} }} <!-- en: field Deltarune [theories] -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| ~~intuitively-false fan theory [[Category~~:~~Intuitively-false fan theories ontology]]~~ \| ~~intuitively-false statement \| Deltarune fan theory [[Category:Deltarune fan theories ontology]]~~ }} <!-- en: ~~instance~~ of -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| {{E:IntuitivelyFalseFanTheory\|C=Q}} }} <!-- en: case of -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P35/TS\| {{E:Q66,23}} \| Q6912 December Holiday }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P35/TS\| {{E:Q66,23}} \| Q6912 December Holiday }}
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Reversedragon: link: because author said so

2025-07-22T05:49:42Z

link: because author said so

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	There is not a lot of evidence supporting this theory. In particular, there is evidence that December actually is older than Noelle. This most likely would not be possible if they were the same entity.		There is not a lot of evidence supporting this theory. In particular, there is evidence that December actually is older than Noelle. This most likely would not be possible if they were the same entity.

	The actual appeal of this theory is less in explaining <cite>Deltarune</cite> than serving as an example of a fan theory which reads as obviously not true. Many people, it would seem, are fundamentally not curious about the construction of fictional worlds, and want to act like fan theories are pointless because [[~~redlink - Fictional events only happen because the author said so~~\|everything in a fictional world is an arbitrary decision]], meaning that causality in fiction does not truly exist. But if that were the case, why is it that events in fiction follow a coherent pattern at all, and it is not reasonable to expect that from the moment someone starts reading every fan theory is equally likely to be confirmed? Readers do not have access to the mind of the author, so in principle, the author's mind could contain absolutely anything, including models that might sound ridiculous. Yet, if readers start drawing fan theories out of a hat, some of them will appear to match the narrative and some of them won't. Fictional worlds possess their own particular concept of accuracy versus inaccuracy similar to if not necessarily identical to real-world situations, and [[:Category:Non-binary truth values ontology\|non-binary logic]] can be used to investigate them.		The actual appeal of this theory is less in explaining <cite>Deltarune</cite> than serving as an example of a fan theory which reads as obviously not true. Many people, it would seem, are fundamentally not curious about the construction of fictional worlds, and want to act like fan theories are pointless because [[E:BecauseAuthorSaidSo\|everything in a fictional world is an arbitrary decision]], meaning that causality in fiction does not truly exist. But if that were the case, why is it that events in fiction follow a coherent pattern at all, and it is not reasonable to expect that from the moment someone starts reading every fan theory is equally likely to be confirmed? Readers do not have access to the mind of the author, so in principle, the author's mind could contain absolutely anything, including models that might sound ridiculous. Yet, if readers start drawing fan theories out of a hat, some of them will appear to match the narrative and some of them won't. Fictional worlds possess their own particular concept of accuracy versus inaccuracy similar to if not necessarily identical to real-world situations, and [[:Category:Non-binary truth values ontology\|non-binary logic]] can be used to investigate them.

Reversedragon: Usage notes

2025-07-22T05:19:23Z

Usage notes

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	{{HueClaim \|P=item type\| {{Template:F2}} }}		{{HueClaim \|P=item type\| {{Template:F2}} }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA/L\|lang=en\| {{E:NoelleRubyNonTheory}} \| [[E:NoelleRubyNonTheory]] }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA/L\|lang=en\| {{E:NoelleRubyNonTheory}} \| [[E:NoelleRubyNonTheory]] }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| December Holiday changed her name to Noelle (Dess; Deltarune) }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| December Holiday somehow changed her name and appearance to become Noelle (Dess; Deltarune) }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| -- }} <!-- en: QID references -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| -- }} <!-- en: QID references -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| {{E:Q7617}} }} <!-- en: field Deltarune -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| {{E:Q7617}} }} <!-- en: field Deltarune -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| intuitively-false fan theory [[Category:Intuitively-false fan theories ontology]] \| intuitively false statement \| Deltarune fan theory [[Category:Deltarune fan theories ontology]] }} <!-- en: instance of -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| intuitively-false fan theory [[Category:Intuitively-false fan theories ontology]] \| intuitively-false statement \| Deltarune fan theory [[Category:Deltarune fan theories ontology]] }} <!-- en: instance of -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P35/TS\| {{E:Q66,23}} \| Q6912 December Holiday }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P35/TS\| {{E:Q66,23}} \| Q6912 December Holiday }}
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	== ~~[[Special:PermanentLink/6498\|Prototype]] notes~~ ==		=== Wavebuilder characterizations ===

	~~there's no way this could be true but I did find it a really funny idea after reading~~ <~~cite~~>~~Wings of Fire~~</~~cite~~>.		<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
			{{WaveRoute\| Queen Ruby \| December Holiday \| {{E:NoelleRubyNonTheory}} }} <!-- en: FROM ?? ?? -->
			</dl>

	== Usage notes ==		== Usage notes ==

			In the Young-Adult book series <cite>[[Ontology:Wings of Fire\|Wings of Fire]]</cite>, there is a character known as Queen Ruby. Ruby was told by her mother Queen Scarlet that her sister Tourmaline went missing, never to be seen again. However, what was ultimately discovered was that Queen Ruby actually <em>was</em> Tourmaline, enchanted by [[redlink\|animus magic]] to become a new individual and forget who she was previously. Thus, this is the claim that the narrative of December Holiday going missing in <cite>Deltarune</cite> is an illusion born from Noelle's memories, and she only went missing because <i>Noelle stopped being December</i>.

			There is not a lot of evidence supporting this theory. In particular, there is evidence that December actually is older than Noelle. This most likely would not be possible if they were the same entity.

			The actual appeal of this theory is less in explaining <cite>Deltarune</cite> than serving as an example of a fan theory which reads as obviously not true. Many people, it would seem, are fundamentally not curious about the construction of fictional worlds, and want to act like fan theories are pointless because [[redlink - Fictional events only happen because the author said so\|everything in a fictional world is an arbitrary decision]], meaning that causality in fiction does not truly exist. But if that were the case, why is it that events in fiction follow a coherent pattern at all, and it is not reasonable to expect that from the moment someone starts reading every fan theory is equally likely to be confirmed? Readers do not have access to the mind of the author, so in principle, the author's mind could contain absolutely anything, including models that might sound ridiculous. Yet, if readers start drawing fan theories out of a hat, some of them will appear to match the narrative and some of them won't. Fictional worlds possess their own particular concept of accuracy versus inaccuracy similar to if not necessarily identical to real-world situations, and [[:Category:Non-binary truth values ontology\|non-binary logic]] can be used to investigate them.

Reversedragon: copy or update fake Item from ProphecyInBetween

2025-07-22T04:43:52Z

copy or update fake Item from ProphecyInBetween

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</li></ol> __NOTOC__

== Core characteristics ==

<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueClaim |P=item type| {{Template:F2}} }}
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA/L|lang=en| {{E:NoelleRubyNonTheory}} | [[E:NoelleRubyNonTheory]] }}
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA|lang=en| December Holiday changed her name to Noelle (Dess; Deltarune) }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P42| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P34| {{E:Q7617}} }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P3| -- }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P4| intuitively-false fan theory [[Category:Intuitively-false fan theories ontology]] | intuitively false statement | Deltarune fan theory [[Category:Deltarune fan theories ontology]] }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P35/TS| {{E:Q66,23}} | Q6912 December Holiday }}
</dl>

== Wavebuilder combinations ==

<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
{{WaveBuildNone| -- | -- | -- }} 
</dl>

== [[Special:PermanentLink/6498|Prototype]] notes ==

there's no way this could be true but I did find it a really funny idea after reading <cite>Wings of Fire</cite>.

== Usage notes ==