Ontology:Q29,19 - Revision history

Reversedragon: combinations / clean up aliases

2026-02-27T23:09:07Z

combinations / clean up aliases

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	{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle\|[S2] Quack like Trotskyism, and you are Trotskyism - MX / Q29,19}}		{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle\|[S2] Quack like Trotskyism, and you are Trotskyism - MX / Q29,19}}
	<onlyinclude><dfn class="{{{class\|field_mdem}}} manual" data-dimension="S2" data-qid="29,19" data-field="" data-series="" data-work="" data-chapter="" data-tale="" data-object="" data-note="" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}{{#if: {{{1\|}}} \| [[E:Q29,19\|{{{1}}}]] \| [[E:Q29,19\|If it quacks like Bolshevism, it is Bolshevism]] }}{{#if: {{{3\|}}} \| {{{3}}} \| <ins class="field"></ins> }}{{#if: {{{2\|}}} \| <ins class="edition-sense term"> ([[E:Q29,19/{{{2}}}\|{{{2}}}]]<nowiki />)</ins> }}{{WaveScore\|sum=1\|quilt=1\|ply=1\|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>		<onlyinclude><dfn class="{{{class\|field_mdem}}} manual flag" data-dimension="S2" data-qid="29,19" data-field="" data-series="" data-work="" data-chapter="" data-tale="" data-object="" data-note="" data-lexeme="">{{IS2/MX\|Q=29,19}}{{#if: {{{1\|}}} \| [[E:Q29,19\|{{{1}}}]] \| [[E:Q29,19\|If it quacks like Bolshevism, it is Bolshevism]] }}{{#if: {{{3\|}}} \| {{{3}}} \| <ins class="field"></ins> }}{{#if: {{{2\|}}} \| <ins class="edition-sense term"> ([[E:Q29,19/{{{2}}}\|{{{2}}}]]<nowiki />)</ins> }}{{WaveScore\|sum=1\|quilt=1\|ply=1\|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>
	</li></ol><!-- duplication hint: copy or update fake Item from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN\|Q29,19]] --> __NOTOC__		</li></ol><!-- duplication hint: copy or update fake Item from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN\|Q29,19]] --> __NOTOC__

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	{{HueClaim \|P=item type\| {{Template:S2}} }}		{{HueClaim \|P=item type\| {{Template:S2}} }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA/L\|lang=en\| {{E:Q29,19}} \| {{E:Q29,19/MM}} }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA/L\|lang=en\| {{E:Q29,19}} \| {{E:Q29,19/MM}} }}
	{{HueClaim \|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| If an ideology or philosophy has the same internal civilizational structure as a particular ideology, it belongs to the same category of ideologies \| What it quacks like is what it is \| If it quacks like fascism, it is fascism ~~\| Quack like Trotskyism, and you <em>are</em> Trotskyism (Communism, fascism, Liberalism/Liberal-republicanism, psychoanalysis; filing-system phrasing)~~ \| proposition quack (meta-Marxism) \| (... [[E:Q29,19/PPPA\|fuller list of aliases]]) }}		{{HueClaim \|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| If an ideology or philosophy has the same internal civilizational structure as a particular ideology, it belongs to the same category of ideologies \| What it quacks like is what it is \| If it quacks like fascism, it is fascism \| proposition quack (meta-Marxism) \| (... [[E:Q29,19/PPPA\|fuller list of aliases]]) }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| {{E:Q2900}} }} <!-- en: QID references -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P42/BB\| {{E:Q2900}} }} <!-- en: QID references -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| -- }} <!-- en: field, scope, or group -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| -- }} <!-- en: field, scope, or group -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| {{E:Q2900}} \| {{E:Q942}} }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| {{E:Q2900}} \| {{E:Q942}} }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P5\| -- }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P5\| -- }}
	</dl>		</dl><!--

	=== Appearances ===		=== Appearances ===
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	<dl class="wikitable hue">		<dl class="wikitable hue">
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P14\| -- }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P14\| -- }}
	</dl>		</dl>-->

	== ~~Wavebuilder~~ combinations ==		== Wave<span style="text-transform: lowercase;">Builder</span> combinations ==

	<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">		<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
	{{WaveBuildNone\| -- \| -- \| -- }} <!-- en: ~~WITH~~ ?? ~~PRODUCES~~ ?? -->		{{WaveBuildNone\| {{E:Q29,19}} \| -- \| -- }} <!-- en: Along With, Produces ?? ?? -->
	</dl>		</dl>

	=== ~~Wavebuilder~~ characterizations ===		=== Wave<wbr/>builder characterizations ===

	<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">		<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
	{{WaveRoute\| -- \| -- \| -- }} <!-- en: ~~FROM~~ ?? ?? -->		{{WaveRoute\| {{E:Q618/MX\|Q=29,63\|Cultures separate due to their internal content}} \| ?? \| {{E:Q29,19}} }} <!-- en: From ?? ?? -->
			{{WaveRoute\| {{E:Q618/MX\|Q=29,07\|Political positions part populations}} \| ?? \| {{E:Q29,19}} }} <!-- en: From ?? ?? -->
	</dl>		</dl>

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	[[Category:Hue-format fake Items]] [[Category:meta-Marxist hypotheses ontology]] <!-- for copying prototype notes: [[Special:PermanentLink/6676\|RoseQuartzRevivedPinkiePie]] -->		[[Category:Hue-format fake Items]] [[Category:meta-Marxist hypotheses ontology]] <!-- page ends here. TTS-unfriendly numbers incoming
			search-friendly numbers: Q2907 Q2963 Q2919
			for copying prototype notes: [[Special:PermanentLink/6676\|RoseQuartzRevivedPinkiePie]] -->

Reversedragon: clean up aliases

2025-08-04T03:30:44Z

clean up aliases

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	{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle\|[S2] Quack like Trotskyism, and you are Trotskyism - MX / Q29,19}}		{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle\|[S2] Quack like Trotskyism, and you are Trotskyism - MX / Q29,19}}
	<onlyinclude><dfn class="{{{class\|field_mdem}}} manual" data-dimension="S2" data-qid="29,19" data-field="" data-series="" data-work="" data-chapter="" data-tale="" data-object="" data-note="" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}{{#if: {{{1\|}}} \| [[E:Q29,19\|{{{1}}}]] \| [[E:Q29,19\|If it quacks like Bolshevism, it is Bolshevism]] }}<ins class="field"></ins>{{WaveScore\|sum=1\|quilt=1\|ply=1\|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>		<onlyinclude><dfn class="{{{class\|field_mdem}}} manual" data-dimension="S2" data-qid="29,19" data-field="" data-series="" data-work="" data-chapter="" data-tale="" data-object="" data-note="" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}{{#if: {{{1\|}}} \| [[E:Q29,19\|{{{1}}}]] \| [[E:Q29,19\|If it quacks like Bolshevism, it is Bolshevism]] }}{{#if: {{{3\|}}} \| {{{3}}} \| <ins class="field"></ins> }}{{#if: {{{2\|}}} \| <ins class="edition-sense term"> ([[E:Q29,19/{{{2}}}\|{{{2}}}]]<nowiki />)</ins> }}{{WaveScore\|sum=1\|quilt=1\|ply=1\|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>
	</li></ol><!-- duplication hint: copy or update fake Item from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN\|Q29,19]] --> __NOTOC__		</li></ol><!-- duplication hint: copy or update fake Item from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN\|Q29,19]] --> __NOTOC__

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	<dl class="wikitable hue">		<dl class="wikitable hue">
	{{HueClaim \|P=item type\| {{Template:S2}} }}		{{HueClaim \|P=item type\| {{Template:S2}} }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA/L\|lang=en\| {{E:Q29,19}} }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA/L\|lang=en\| {{E:Q29,19}} \| {{E:Q29,19/MM}} }}
	{{HueClaim \|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| ~~Is Trotskyism~~ a ~~form~~ of ~~Bolshevism? (rhetorical question)~~ \| If it quacks like ~~Bolshevism,~~ it is ~~Bolshevism~~ \| If it quacks like fascism, it is fascism \| Quack like Trotskyism, and you are Trotskyism (Communism, fascism, Liberalism/Liberal-republicanism, psychoanalysis; filing-system phrasing) \| ~~What it quacks like is what it is~~ \| ~~If an ideology or philosophy has the same internal civilizational structure as a particular ideology~~, ~~it belongs to the same category~~ of ~~ideologies~~ }}		{{HueClaim \|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| If an ideology or philosophy has the same internal civilizational structure as a particular ideology, it belongs to the same category of ideologies \| What it quacks like is what it is \| If it quacks like fascism, it is fascism \| Quack like Trotskyism, and you <em>are</em> Trotskyism (Communism, fascism, Liberalism/Liberal-republicanism, psychoanalysis; filing-system phrasing) \| proposition quack (meta-Marxism) \| (... [[E:Q29,19/PPPA\|fuller list of aliases]]) }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| {{E:Q2900}} }} <!-- en: QID references -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| {{E:Q2900}} }} <!-- en: QID references -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| -- }} <!-- en: field, scope, or group -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| -- }} <!-- en: field, scope, or group -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| {{E:Q942}} }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| {{E:Q2900}} \| {{E:Q942}} }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P5\| -- }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P5\| -- }}
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	<ol class="hue clean">		<ol class="hue clean">
	</li><li class="field_mdem" value="2919" data-dimension="S2">~~Is Trotskyism a form of Bolshevism? (rhetorical question) ->~~ jamming proposition used to get people to evaluate whether Toryism is of the same category as historical European fascisms. if Trotskyism wants a world government of allied Communist-aligned populations, wants to create soviet structures or unions, and wants to make all businesses state businesses, is it Bolshevism? a meta-Marxist would say yes. a Trotskyist would say yes. an anarchist would probably say yes. a Lacanian with enough background information would probably say yes. so, if Toryism believes in binding many arrow people around a strong axe leader, believes in removing immigrants and foreigners and "non-patriots", believes in restoring the empire to its former glory as an ostensibly-unified countable culture, and believes in conquering lands distant from the empire such as Palestine, what do we call that? can we just agree to call it a [[E:named nationalism\|named nationalism]], even if it hasn't fully realized into the Material System of fascism yet?? the only real reason people don't believe this and don't believe it in a genuine way is the toxic influence of Existentialism — the philosophy that countable cultures such as "Bob the individual with a particular mind-internal culture and Free Will" and "the gay community" and "the Catholic community" are fundamental units of society but "the class subpopulation of capitalists", "the socially-linked faction of progressives", and "the socially-linked faction of Tories" are not. if countable cultures are the most important thing on earth then "the White Southern-Baptist Christian community who all want to vote for Trump and want the immigrants out" will always inherently be more important than "the political coalition of Black people and gay people", and it will always have the incentive to say "we're not the same demographic identity of people as the people clustered around Mussolini or Franco, so we can't be fascists because those are the people with Fascists on their name tag and we have Tea Party on our name tag" "also, you can't predict what we'll realize into as The Tea Party because historical materialism is bogus, so really how do you know we're fascists, how do you even know".		</li><li class="field_mdem" value="2919" data-dimension="S2">... jamming proposition used to get people to evaluate whether Toryism is of the same category as historical European fascisms. if Trotskyism wants a world government of allied Communist-aligned populations, wants to create soviet structures or unions, and wants to make all businesses state businesses, is it Bolshevism? a meta-Marxist would say yes. a Trotskyist would say yes. an anarchist would probably say yes. a Lacanian with enough background information would probably say yes. so, if Toryism believes in binding many arrow people around a strong axe leader, believes in removing immigrants and foreigners and "non-patriots", believes in restoring the empire to its former glory as an ostensibly-unified countable culture, and believes in conquering lands distant from the empire such as Palestine, what do we call that? can we just agree to call it a [[E:named nationalism\|named nationalism]], even if it hasn't fully realized into the Material System of fascism yet?? the only real reason people don't believe this and don't believe it in a genuine way is the toxic influence of Existentialism — the philosophy that countable cultures such as "Bob the individual with a particular mind-internal culture and Free Will" and "the gay community" and "the Catholic community" are fundamental units of society but "the class subpopulation of capitalists", "the socially-linked faction of progressives", and "the socially-linked faction of Tories" are not. if countable cultures are the most important thing on earth then "the White Southern-Baptist Christian community who all want to vote for Trump and want the immigrants out" will always inherently be more important than "the political coalition of Black people and gay people", and it will always have the incentive to say "we're not the same demographic identity of people as the people clustered around Mussolini or Franco, so we can't be fascists because those are the people with Fascists on their name tag and we have Tea Party on our name tag" "also, you can't predict what we'll realize into as The Tea Party because historical materialism is bogus, so really how do you know we're fascists, how do you even know".
	</li></ol>		</li></ol>

Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page Ontology:Q2919 to Ontology:Q29,19: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

2025-08-04T00:03:53Z

Reversedragon moved page Ontology:Q2919 to Ontology:Q29,19: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

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Reversedragon: copy or update fake Item from Q29,21, RoseQuartzRevivedPinkiePie

2025-08-04T00:03:36Z

copy or update fake Item from Q29,21, RoseQuartzRevivedPinkiePie

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{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle|[S2] Quack like Trotskyism, and you are Trotskyism - MX / Q29,19}}
<onlyinclude><dfn class="{{{class|field_mdem}}} manual" data-dimension="S2" data-qid="29,19" data-field="" data-series="" data-work="" data-chapter="" data-tale="" data-object="" data-note="" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}{{#if: {{{1|}}} | [[E:Q29,19|{{{1}}}]] | [[E:Q29,19|If it quacks like Bolshevism, it is Bolshevism]] }}<ins class="field"></ins>{{WaveScore|sum=1|quilt=1|ply=1|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>
</li></ol> __NOTOC__

== Core characteristics ==

<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueClaim |P=item type| {{Template:S2}} }}
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA/L|lang=en| {{E:Q29,19}} }}
{{HueClaim |EP=PPPA|lang=en| Is Trotskyism a form of Bolshevism? (rhetorical question) | If it quacks like Bolshevism, it is Bolshevism | If it quacks like fascism, it is fascism | Quack like Trotskyism, and you are Trotskyism (Communism, fascism, Liberalism/Liberal-republicanism, psychoanalysis; filing-system phrasing) | What it quacks like is what it is | If an ideology or philosophy has the same internal civilizational structure as a particular ideology, it belongs to the same category of ideologies }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P42| {{E:Q2900}} }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P34| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P4| {{E:Q942}} }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P3| -- }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P5| -- }}
</dl>

=== Appearances ===

<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueRoster|EP=P14| -- }}
</dl>

== Wavebuilder combinations ==

<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
{{WaveBuildNone| -- | -- | -- }} 
</dl>

=== Wavebuilder characterizations ===

<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
{{WaveRoute| -- | -- | -- }} 
</dl>

== [[User:Reversedragon/FirstNineThousand/900|Prototype]] notes ==

<ol class="hue clean">
</li><li class="field_mdem" value="2919" data-dimension="S2">Is Trotskyism a form of Bolshevism? (rhetorical question) -> jamming proposition used to get people to evaluate whether Toryism is of the same category as historical European fascisms. if Trotskyism wants a world government of allied Communist-aligned populations, wants to create soviet structures or unions, and wants to make all businesses state businesses, is it Bolshevism? a meta-Marxist would say yes. a Trotskyist would say yes. an anarchist would probably say yes. a Lacanian with enough background information would probably say yes. so, if Toryism believes in binding many arrow people around a strong axe leader, believes in removing immigrants and foreigners and "non-patriots", believes in restoring the empire to its former glory as an ostensibly-unified countable culture, and believes in conquering lands distant from the empire such as Palestine, what do we call that? can we just agree to call it a [[E:named nationalism|named nationalism]], even if it hasn't fully realized into the Material System of fascism yet?? the only real reason people don't believe this and don't believe it in a genuine way is the toxic influence of Existentialism — the philosophy that countable cultures such as "Bob the individual with a particular mind-internal culture and Free Will" and "the gay community" and "the Catholic community" are fundamental units of society but "the class subpopulation of capitalists", "the socially-linked faction of progressives", and "the socially-linked faction of Tories" are not. if countable cultures are the most important thing on earth then "the White Southern-Baptist Christian community who all want to vote for Trump and want the immigrants out" will always inherently be more important than "the political coalition of Black people and gay people", and it will always have the incentive to say "we're not the same demographic identity of people as the people clustered around Mussolini or Franco, so we can't be fascists because those are the people with Fascists on their name tag and we have Tea Party on our name tag" "also, you can't predict what we'll realize into as The Tea Party because historical materialism is bogus, so really how do you know we're fascists, how do you even know".
</li></ol>

== Usage notes ==



[[Category:Hue-format fake Items]] [[Category:meta-Marxist hypotheses ontology]]