Ontology:Q3331 - Revision history

Reversedragon: usage notes; combination: the trash I love anyway

2025-06-27T01:04:25Z

usage notes; combination: the trash I love anyway

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	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:PPPA/L}}\|lang=en\| {{Ontology:Q3331}} }}		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:PPPA/L}}\|lang=en\| {{Ontology:Q3331}} }}
	{{HueClaim\|P={{Ontology:PPPA}}\|lang=en\| anime, which is bad \| anime (said in inherently pejorative tone) \| tokusatsu films, which are always dumb \| Japanese Young Adult media, which are bad \| Japanese shows, which are always dumb }}		{{HueClaim\|P={{Ontology:PPPA}}\|lang=en\| anime, which is bad \| anime (said in inherently pejorative tone) \| tokusatsu films, which are always dumb \| Japanese Young Adult media, which are bad \| Japanese shows, which are always dumb }}
			{{HueClaim\|P={{Ontology:PPPA}}\|lang=en\| manga, which are bad }}
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P42}}\| Q3330 otaku }} <!-- en: QID references -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P42}}\| Q3330 otaku }} <!-- en: QID references -->
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P56}}\| Q3180 stupid idiot garbage trash }} <!-- en: color swatch references -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P56}}\| Q3180 stupid idiot garbage trash }} <!-- en: color swatch references -->
			{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P34}}\| United States }} <!-- en: field, scope, or group -->
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P3}}\| -- }} <!-- en: sub-case of -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P3}}\| -- }} <!-- en: sub-case of -->
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P4}}\| -- }} <!-- en: case of -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P4}}\| -- }} <!-- en: case of -->
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P5}}\| -- }} <!-- en: super-case of -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P5}}\| -- }} <!-- en: super-case of -->
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P147}}\| -- }} <!-- en: local Lexeme -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P147}}\| -- }} <!-- en: local Lexeme -->
	{{HueRoster\|P=[[User:Reversedragon/FirstNineThousand\|prototype]] notes\| this almost never goes as far as the "stupid idiot garbage trash" Items are meant to suggest. those are meant to suggest something that is fundamentally not tolerated and pushed away every time, while "anime, which is bad" is meant to apply to things that are about halfway tolerated and halfway rejected }}
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	== Wavebuilder combinations ==		== Wavebuilder combinations ==

	<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild">		<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
	{{~~WaveBuildNone~~\| -- \| -- }} <!-- en: WITH ?? PRODUCES ?? -->		{{WaveBuild\| {{Ontology:Q3331}} \| media literacy \| {{Ontology:Q3332}} }} <!-- en: WITH ?? PRODUCES anime, the trash I love anyway -->
	</dl>		</dl>

	== Usage notes ==		== Usage notes ==

			As much as this has similarities to the "stupid idiot garbage trash" motifs, they represent different degrees of the same thing; this motif is a much more surface-level, less-intense kind of rejection. The "stupid idiot garbage trash" motifs are meant to suggest something that is fundamentally not tolerated and pushed away from some corner of society every time, while "anime, which is bad" is meant to apply to things that are about halfway tolerated and halfway rejected, often in strange ways. In some cases, "anime" is accepted precisely inside the social understanding that [[Ontology:Q3338\|Japanese media are lesser than United States media if one can at all notice a distinction between the two]], or exoticized as if other countries [[redlink - essentialism\|must perform a particular cultural identity]] to be accepted as adding something to another society. At other times the [[redlink - from within Japan\|original context of a work is actually understood]], only to then degrade the work for reasons unrelated to where it came from, such as for being a piece of Young Adult fiction, being a highschool drama, including giant monsters, or being part of some particular "unappealing" category of genre fiction.

			Note that audiences degrading a work for objectifying women or girls does not count within this motif. This motif is only for "kid-friendly" reasons people reject anime and manga; "anime, which is for perverts" is a different motif entirely. However, this motif could apply to manga if everything is the same except the work is a printed book.

			=== Wavebuilder combinations ===

			* "Media literacy" is used in the context of viewing any piece of media in the full context of its genre, level of skill, and originating population or countable Culture if relevant. "Yes, <cite>Dragon Ball</cite> is dumb, but its ultimate purpose is to comment on <cite>Journey to the West</cite>." "Yes, <cite>Teen Titans</cite> is a shoddy copy of Japanese animation styles, but that is not relevant to discussing the themes and character arcs that would make someone want to watch it."


	[[Category:Otaku subculture ontology]]		[[Category:Otaku subculture ontology]]

Reversedragon: change color

2025-06-26T23:16:25Z

change color

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	<dl class="wikitable hue">		<dl class="wikitable hue">
	{{HueClaim\|P=item type\| {{Template:S2}} }}		{{HueClaim\|P=item type\| {{Template:S1}} }}
	{{HueRoster\|P=~~label (~~en)\| {{Ontology:Q3331}} }}		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:PPPA/L}}\|lang=en\| {{Ontology:Q3331}} }}
	{{HueClaim\|P=~~alias (~~en)\| anime, which is bad \| anime ~~>:/~~ \| tokusatsu films, which are always dumb \| Japanese Young Adult media, which are bad \| Japanese shows, which are always dumb }}		{{HueClaim\|P={{Ontology:PPPA}}\|lang=en\| anime, which is bad \| anime (said in inherently pejorative tone) \| tokusatsu films, which are always dumb \| Japanese Young Adult media, which are bad \| Japanese shows, which are always dumb }}
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P42}}\| Q3330 otaku }} <!-- en: QID references -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P42}}\| Q3330 otaku }} <!-- en: QID references -->
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P56}}\| -- }} <!-- en: color swatch references -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P56}}\| Q3180 stupid idiot garbage trash }} <!-- en: color swatch references -->
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P3}}\| -- }} <!-- en: sub-case of -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P3}}\| -- }} <!-- en: sub-case of -->
	{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P4}}\| -- }} <!-- en: case of -->		{{HueRoster\|P={{Ontology:P4}}\| -- }} <!-- en: case of -->

Reversedragon: copy or update fake Item from Q3328

2025-06-26T23:00:05Z

copy or update fake Item from Q3328

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== Core characteristics ==

<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueClaim|P=item type| {{Template:S2}} }}
{{HueRoster|P=label (en)| {{Ontology:Q3331}} }}
{{HueClaim|P=alias (en)| anime, which is bad | anime >:/ | tokusatsu films, which are always dumb | Japanese Young Adult media, which are bad | Japanese shows, which are always dumb }}
{{HueRoster|P={{Ontology:P42}}| Q3330 otaku }} 
{{HueRoster|P={{Ontology:P56}}| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|P={{Ontology:P3}}| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|P={{Ontology:P4}}| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|P={{Ontology:P5}}| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|P={{Ontology:P147}}| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|P=[[User:Reversedragon/FirstNineThousand|prototype]] notes| this almost never goes as far as the "stupid idiot garbage trash" Items are meant to suggest. those are meant to suggest something that is fundamentally not tolerated and pushed away every time, while "anime, which is bad" is meant to apply to things that are about halfway tolerated and halfway rejected }}
</dl>

=== Components ===

<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueRoster|P=model combines claims| -- }}
</dl>

== Wavebuilder combinations ==

<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild">
{{WaveBuildNone| -- | -- }} 
</dl>

== Usage notes ==

[[Category:Otaku subculture ontology]]