Ontology:Q36,02 - Revision history

Reversedragon: move motifs to 9k until they can be added back without commentary; redirects

2026-03-15T08:14:46Z

move motifs to 9k until they can be added back without commentary; redirects

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-{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li>  {{ArticleTitle|[Z] Demon-Haunted World (Sagan 1995) - ES / E:DemonHauntedWorld}}
+<includeonly><onlyinclude>{{HueEntity|I={{{I|Z1/ES}}}|Q=36,02|sum=1|quilt=1|ply=1 <!-- three braces: changeable arguments -->
-<onlyinclude><dfn class="field_exstruct" data-dimension="Z" data-qid="618" data-numbersign="404" data-field="" data-series="" data-work="" data-chapter="" data-tale="" data-object="" data-lexeme="">[[E:Demon-Haunted World|<cite>Demon-Haunted World</cite>]]<ins class="note author-year"> (Sagan 1995)</ins>{{WaveScore|sum=1|quilt=1|ply=1|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>
+|swatch={{{class|field_exstruct}}}|class=manual flag|lang={{{lang|en}}}|PPPA2={{{1|}}}|sense={{{2|}}}|area={{{area|}}}|area-free={{{area-free|}}}
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-{{HueRoster|EP=P34| philosophy of science [[Category:Philosophy of science ontology]] }}  <!-- en: color swatch references -->
+{{HueRoster|EP=P34| {{E:Q618/STM|philosophy of science}} [[Category:Philosophy of science ontology]] }}  <!-- en: color swatch references -->
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Reversedragon: Newtonism-Einsteinism

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Newtonism-Einsteinism

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 </li><li {{IS2/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="19">Magic ritual is not distinguishable from religion  ->  I subjectively prefer this framing, but it should be noted this is not the way it's done in progressive anthropology, where the two things are separated.
 </li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="171-173">invisible garage dragon
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 </li><li {{IS2/MX/class}} value="618">Atheist science communicators are social-science illiterate / You can't understand science illiteracy without a serious <em>science</em> of sociality, social groups, and culture
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Reversedragon: hermetically-sealed compartments of knowledge

2025-08-16T03:44:35Z

hermetically-sealed compartments of knowledge

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	</li><li {{IS1/IV/class}} value="618" data-pages="16-17">Trotsky and scientific thinking		</li><li {{IS1/IV/class}} value="618" data-pages="16-17">Trotsky and scientific thinking
	</li><li {{IS2/A/class}} value="618" data-pages="17">The dissolved Soviet Russia is the real Russia / Communists ruined science because they only handed science to experts, but the dissolved Soviet Union is the real Soviet Union and the country didn't build itself up through every single individual being thoroughly educated and improved individually -> this is like saying that the United States immediately after dissolving the central government and all the state governments and ripping up the constitution is the real United States. it's very anarchist in a weird way except that if you did the thing it would make everybody fight each other over the same rank goods and businesses and ability to make decisions for other people and create so-called "hierarchies".		</li><li {{IS2/A/class}} value="618" data-pages="17">The dissolved Soviet Russia is the real Russia / Communists ruined science because they only handed science to experts, but the dissolved Soviet Union is the real Soviet Union and the country didn't build itself up through every single individual being thoroughly educated and improved individually -> this is like saying that the United States immediately after dissolving the central government and all the state governments and ripping up the constitution is the real United States. it's very anarchist in a weird way except that if you did the thing it would make everybody fight each other over the same rank goods and businesses and ability to make decisions for other people and create so-called "hierarchies".
	</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="~~618~~" data-pages="17">hermetically-sealed compartments of knowledge		</li><li {{IS1/IV/class}} value="3984" data-pages="17">hermetically-sealed compartments of knowledge
	</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="19">meme model of fringe science / "Darwinian natural selection of doctrines" -> here this is used more neutrally without any connection to people-groups and cultures; meme theory has turned into an assembly theory. but it still seems very doubtful.		</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="19">meme model of fringe science / "Darwinian natural selection of doctrines" -> here this is used more neutrally without any connection to people-groups and cultures; meme theory has turned into an assembly theory. but it still seems very doubtful.
	</li><li {{IS2/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="19">Magic ritual is not distinguishable from religion -> I subjectively prefer this framing, but it should be noted this is not the way it's done in progressive anthropology, where the two things are separated.		</li><li {{IS2/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="19">Magic ritual is not distinguishable from religion -> I subjectively prefer this framing, but it should be noted this is not the way it's done in progressive anthropology, where the two things are separated.

Reversedragon: copy fake Item from Q1909

2025-08-15T09:33:42Z

copy fake Item from Q1909

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{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle|[Z] Demon-Haunted World (Sagan 1995) - ES / E:DemonHauntedWorld}}
<onlyinclude><dfn class="field_exstruct" data-dimension="Z" data-qid="618" data-numbersign="404" data-field="" data-series="" data-work="" data-chapter="" data-tale="" data-object="" data-lexeme="">[[E:Demon-Haunted World|<cite>Demon-Haunted World</cite>]]<ins class="note author-year"> (Sagan 1995)</ins>{{WaveScore|sum=1|quilt=1|ply=1|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>
</li></ol> __NOTOC__

== Core characteristics ==

{{HueCSS}}<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueClaim |P=item type| {{Template:Z1}} }}
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA/L|lang=en| {{E:DemonHauntedWorld}} | [[E:Demon-Haunted World]] | [[E:DemonHauntedWorld]] }}
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA|lang=en| -- }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P42| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P56| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P4| {{E:Q618/STM|secular philosophy against religion}} | {{E:Q618/ES|anticommunist work}} }} 
{{HueClaim |P=URL| -- }}
{{HueClaim |P=[[User:Reversedragon/FirstNineThousand|prototype]] notes| -- }}
</dl>

== Bibliographic information ==

<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueClaim|P=author| Carl Sagan }}
{{HueClaim|P=title (en)| The demon-haunted world: Science as a candle in the dark |OP=citation style| APA }}
</dl>

=== Bibliographic information (1995 hardcover) ===

<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueClaim|P=edition number| 1 }}
{{HueClaim|P=publication date| 1995 }}
{{HueClaim|P=medium| hardcover }}
{{HueClaim|P=page count| 457 |OP=method| greatest page number }}
{{HueClaim|P=publisher| Random House }}
{{HueClaim|P=printed in| United States }}
{{HueClaim|P=ISBN| 0-394-53512-X }}
</dl>

== Prototype notes ==

<ol class="hue clean">
</li><li class="field_exstruct" value="3770" data-dimension="S">Carl Sagan was lucky to land the best professors -> <cite>Demon Haunted World</cite>. I find it pretty funny I cite this book for Careerism more than for secular philosophy against religion
</li></ol>

== Motifs ==

<ol class="hue clean">
</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="xiv">Carl Sagan's professors / "I learned planetary astronomy from its only full-time practitioner at the time, G.P. Kuiper" -> this is the problem. you obtained a highly expensive [[Term:rank good|rank good]] that is genuinely difficult to get and you're under the illusion everyone can just choose to get it.
</li><li {{IS2/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="xiii">wonder versus skepticism / the two elements of science, skepticism and wonder -> this is blatantly missing the third element of ontology.

</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-dimension="S2" data-pages="7">United States people are scientifically illiterate because they didn't choose to become smart -> if he'd only taken this lack of education as a material reality instead of a botched Ideal he'd come to understand Marxism better.
</li><li {{IS2/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="15">Religions are not the only fortress for protecting pseudoscience -> that's fair.
</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="16">magic ritual
</li><li {{IS1/IV/class}} value="618" data-pages="16-17">Trotsky and scientific thinking
</li><li {{IS2/A/class}} value="618" data-pages="17">The dissolved Soviet Russia is the real Russia / Communists ruined science because they only handed science to experts, but the dissolved Soviet Union is the real Soviet Union and the country didn't build itself up through every single individual being thoroughly educated and improved individually -> this is like saying that the United States immediately after dissolving the central government and all the state governments and ripping up the constitution is the real United States. it's very anarchist in a weird way except that if you did the thing it would make everybody fight each other over the same rank goods and businesses and ability to make decisions for other people and create so-called "hierarchies".
</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="17">hermetically-sealed compartments of knowledge
</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="19">meme model of fringe science / "Darwinian natural selection of doctrines" -> here this is used more neutrally without any connection to people-groups and cultures; meme theory has turned into an assembly theory. but it still seems very doubtful.
</li><li {{IS2/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="19">Magic ritual is not distinguishable from religion -> I subjectively prefer this framing, but it should be noted this is not the way it's done in progressive anthropology, where the two things are separated.
</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="22">scientific method versus applied field
</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="25">the wonder of the universe

</li><li {{IS2/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="19">Magic ritual is not distinguishable from religion -> I subjectively prefer this framing, but it should be noted this is not the way it's done in progressive anthropology, where the two things are separated.
</li><li {{IS1/ES/class}} value="618" data-pages="171-173">invisible garage dragon
</li></ol>

=== Motifs (subjective) ===

<ol class="hue clean">
</li><li {{IS2/MX/class}} value="618">Atheist science communicators are social-science illiterate / You can't understand science illiteracy without a serious <em>science</em> of sociality, social groups, and culture
</li></ol>

== Wavebuilder combinations ==

<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
{{WaveBuildNone| {{E:DemonHauntedWorld}} | -- | -- }} 
</dl>

=== Wavebuilder characterizations ===

<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
{{WaveRoute| -- | -- | {{E:DemonHauntedWorld}} }} 
</dl>

[[Category:Materialism ontology]] [[Category:Sources found at libraries (United States, 2020s)]]

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