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Reversedragon: combination: pacifist route

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combination: pacifist route

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	~~{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li>~~ {{ArticleTitle\|The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it - ~~S2 /~~ Fy, DG / Q66,83}}		{{ArticleTitle\|[S2] The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it - Fy, DG / Q66,83}}
	<onlyinclude><dfn {{IS2/Fy/class}} data-qid="66,83" data-numbersign="404" data-series="" data-work="Deltarune" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}[[E:Q66,83\|Ralsei would overcome the final tragedy with kindness]]{{#if: {{{3\|}}} \| {{{3}}} \| <ins class="note series_deltarune"> (<cite>Deltarune</cite>)</ins> }}{{#if: {{{2\|}}} \| <ins class="edition-sense term"> ([[E:Q66,83/{{{2}}}\|{{{2}}}]]<nowiki />)</ins> }}{{WaveScore\|sum=1\|quilt=1\|ply=1\|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>		<includeonly><onlyinclude><dfn {{IS2/Fy/class}} data-qid="66,83" data-numbersign="404" data-series="" data-work="Deltarune" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}[[E:Q66,83\|Ralsei would overcome the final tragedy with kindness]]{{#if: {{{3\|}}} \| {{{3}}} \| <ins class="note series_deltarune"> (<cite>Deltarune</cite>)</ins> }}{{#if: {{{2\|}}} \| <ins class="edition-sense term"> ([[E:Q66,83/{{{2}}}\|{{{2}}}]]<nowiki />)</ins> }}{{WaveScore\|sum=1\|quilt=1\|ply=1\|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude></includeonly><!--
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	== Core characteristics ==		== Core characteristics ==
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	{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| -- }} <!-- en: QID references -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| -- }} <!-- en: QID references -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| {{E:Q7617/MM}} \| {{E:Q7617\|C=M}} }} <!-- en: field Deltarune -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| {{E:Q7617/MM}} \| {{E:Q7617\|C=M}} }} <!-- en: field Deltarune -->
	~~{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}~~
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| observation \| character quotation }} <!-- en: instance of -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| observation \| character quotation }} <!-- en: instance of -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P35/TS\| ~~Q66,84~~ the final tragedy \| {{E:Q618/Fy\|The Prophecy (Deltarune)}} [[Category:Prophecy ontology (Deltarune)]] }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P35/TS\| {{E:Q618/Fy\|Q=6684\|dimension=S\|class=field_horror\|the final tragedy}} \| {{E:Q618/Fy\|The Prophecy (Deltarune)}} [[Category:Prophecy ontology (Deltarune)]] }}
	</dl>		</dl>

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	<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">		<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
	{{~~WaveBuildNone~~\| -- \| -- \| -- }} <!-- en: ~~WITH~~ ?? ~~PRODUCES~~ ?? -->		{{WaveBuild\| {{E:Q66,83}} \| -- \| -- }} <!-- en: Along With, Produces ?? ?? -->
			</dl>

			=== Wavebuilder characterizations ===

			<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
			{{WaveRoute\| {{E:Q618/Fy\|Q=6684\|dimension=S\|class=field_horror\|the final tragedy}} \| {{E:Q618/Fy\|Q=6108\|dimension=S\|pacifist route}} \| {{E:Q66,83}} }} <!-- en: From the final tragedy pacifist route -->
	</dl>		</dl>

	== Usage notes ==		== Usage notes ==

	This statement is very interesting due to its connections to both ~~<cite>~~Undertale~~</cite>~~ and fictional depictions of psychoanalysis.		This statement is very interesting due to its connections to both {{book\|Undertale}} and fictional depictions of psychoanalysis.

	It is a rather obvious observation that many characters accept mercy eventually in ~~<cite>~~Undertale~~</cite>,~~ the only two serious exceptions being Asgore and the category of W.D. Gaster plus the Goner characters which either never showed up in full encounter form or are seen disappearing from alternate timelines of the game with no real way to be saved. The second, less obvious observation that can be made about ~~<cite>~~Undertale~~</cite>~~ and ~~<cite>~~Deltarune~~</cite>~~ is that mercy can be considered a particularly [[E:Lacanianism ontology\|psychoanalyst]] theme. This theme features in a handful of distinct ideologies, from Christianity and Buddhism to anarchism, psychoanalysis, and schizoanalysis, but in particular, Jungian psychoanalysis has actually appeared in ~~<cite>~~Deltarune~~</cite>~~. The Dark Worlds resemble the Jungian concept of a collective unconscious, containing the sum of every character's different yet similar interpretations of Light World objects. The first two Dark Worlds follow a typical [[E:hero's journey narrative\|adventure narrative structure]]; the standard steps of an adventure narrative monomyth and the common character archetypes inside it are often described in Jungian terminology although this is not mandatory.<ref name="wj" /> More than this, there are themes in ~~<cite>~~Deltarune~~</cite>~~ of Kris' trauma potentially affecting the Dark Worlds and the Roaring Knight "escaping" the Dark Worlds. The Roaring Knight visually resembles Dark World beings such as the Titans, although its origin is currently unknown.		It is a rather obvious observation that many characters accept mercy eventually in {{book\|Undertale}} — the only two serious exceptions being Asgore, and the category of W.D. Gaster plus the Goner characters which either never showed up in full encounter form or are seen disappearing from alternate timelines of the game with no real way to be saved. The second, less obvious observation that can be made about {{book\|Undertale}} and {{book\|Deltarune}} is that mercy can be considered a particularly [[:Category:Lacanianism ontology\|psychoanalyst]] theme. This theme features in a handful of distinct ideologies, from Christianity and Buddhism to anarchism, psychoanalysis, and schizoanalysis, but in particular, Jungian psychoanalysis has actually appeared in {{book\|Deltarune}}. The Dark Worlds resemble the Jungian concept of a collective unconscious, containing the sum of every character's different yet similar interpretations of Light World objects. The first two Dark Worlds follow a typical [[E:hero's journey narrative\|adventure narrative structure]]; the standard steps of an adventure narrative monomyth and the common character archetypes inside it are often described in Jungian terminology although this is not mandatory.<ref name="wj" /> More than this, there are themes in {{book\|Deltarune}} of Kris' trauma potentially affecting the Dark Worlds and the Roaring Knight and Titans "escaping" the Dark Worlds when usually nothing should be able to. The Roaring Knight visually resembles certain Dark World beings such as the Titans, although its origin is currently unknown.

	This opens up the notion of mercy applying to one of a handful of possible characters connected to the concepts of "mind" and "trauma":		This opens up the notion of mercy applying to one of a handful of possible characters connected to the concepts of "mind" and "trauma":
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	* The Roaring Knight		* The Roaring Knight
	* December Holiday (who may have given rise to the Roaring Knight)		* December Holiday (who may have given rise to the Roaring Knight)
			* Noelle
	* Kris		* Kris

Reversedragon: Usage notes

2025-08-11T12:18:04Z

Usage notes

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	{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle\|The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it - S2 / Fy, DG / Q66,83}}		{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle\|The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it - S2 / Fy, DG / Q66,83}}
	<onlyinclude><dfn {{IS2/Fy/class}} data-qid="66,83" data-numbersign="404" data-series="" data-work="Deltarune" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}[[E:Q66,83\|~~The final tragedy is something~~ Ralsei would overcome with kindness]]{{#if: {{{3\|}}} \| {{{3}}} \| <ins class="note series_deltarune"> (<cite>Deltarune</cite>)</ins> }}{{#if: {{{2\|}}} \| <ins class="edition-sense term"> ([[E:Q66,83/{{{2}}}\|{{{2}}}]]<nowiki />)</ins> }}{{WaveScore\|sum=1\|quilt=1\|ply=1\|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>		<onlyinclude><dfn {{IS2/Fy/class}} data-qid="66,83" data-numbersign="404" data-series="" data-work="Deltarune" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}[[E:Q66,83\|Ralsei would overcome the final tragedy with kindness]]{{#if: {{{3\|}}} \| {{{3}}} \| <ins class="note series_deltarune"> (<cite>Deltarune</cite>)</ins> }}{{#if: {{{2\|}}} \| <ins class="edition-sense term"> ([[E:Q66,83/{{{2}}}\|{{{2}}}]]<nowiki />)</ins> }}{{WaveScore\|sum=1\|quilt=1\|ply=1\|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>
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	{{HueClaim \|P=item type\| {{Template:S1}} }}		{{HueClaim \|P=item type\| {{Template:S1}} }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA/L\|lang=en\| {{E:Q66,83}} }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA/L\|lang=en\| {{E:Q66,83}} }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| The final tragedy is something Ralsei would overcome with kindness \| The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it (to be nice; mercy; ~~The Prophecy,~~ Deltarune) }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=PPPA\|lang=en\| The final tragedy is something Ralsei would overcome with kindness \| The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it (to be nice; mercy; Deltarune) }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| -- }} <!-- en: QID references -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P42\| -- }} <!-- en: QID references -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| {{E:Q7617}} }} <!-- en: field Deltarune -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P34\| {{E:Q7617/MM}} \| {{E:Q7617\|C=M}} }} <!-- en: field Deltarune -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P3\| -- }}
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| ~~Deltarune fan theory [[Category:Deltarune fan theories ontology]]~~ }} <!-- en: instance of -->		{{HueRoster\|EP=P4\| observation \| character quotation }} <!-- en: instance of -->
	{{HueRoster\|EP=P35/TS\| {{E:Q618/Fy\|The Prophecy (Deltarune)}} [[Category:Prophecy ontology (Deltarune)]] }}		{{HueRoster\|EP=P35/TS\| Q66,84 the final tragedy \| {{E:Q618/Fy\|The Prophecy (Deltarune)}} [[Category:Prophecy ontology (Deltarune)]] }}
	</dl>		</dl>

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	== Usage notes ==		== Usage notes ==

			This statement is very interesting due to its connections to both <cite>Undertale</cite> and fictional depictions of psychoanalysis.

			It is a rather obvious observation that many characters accept mercy eventually in <cite>Undertale</cite>, the only two serious exceptions being Asgore and the category of W.D. Gaster plus the Goner characters which either never showed up in full encounter form or are seen disappearing from alternate timelines of the game with no real way to be saved. The second, less obvious observation that can be made about <cite>Undertale</cite> and <cite>Deltarune</cite> is that mercy can be considered a particularly [[E:Lacanianism ontology\|psychoanalyst]] theme. This theme features in a handful of distinct ideologies, from Christianity and Buddhism to anarchism, psychoanalysis, and schizoanalysis, but in particular, Jungian psychoanalysis has actually appeared in <cite>Deltarune</cite>. The Dark Worlds resemble the Jungian concept of a collective unconscious, containing the sum of every character's different yet similar interpretations of Light World objects. The first two Dark Worlds follow a typical [[E:hero's journey narrative\|adventure narrative structure]]; the standard steps of an adventure narrative monomyth and the common character archetypes inside it are often described in Jungian terminology although this is not mandatory.<ref name="wj" /> More than this, there are themes in <cite>Deltarune</cite> of Kris' trauma potentially affecting the Dark Worlds and the Roaring Knight "escaping" the Dark Worlds. The Roaring Knight visually resembles Dark World beings such as the Titans, although its origin is currently unknown.

			This opens up the notion of mercy applying to one of a handful of possible characters connected to the concepts of "mind" and "trauma":

			* The Roaring Knight
			* December Holiday (who may have given rise to the Roaring Knight)
			* Kris

			In chapter 3, Kris' past is vaguely illustrated or alluded to in the secret "Mantle" game and the <b class="caps">Eram</b> fight. This game is the "original version" of the game Tenna features on his game show, but it notably features a lot of fantasy violence instead of a peaceful adventure.

			(unfinished)



			== References ==

			<references>
			<ref name="wj"><cite>The Writer's Journey</cite>.</ref>
			<!-- <ref name="pear"><cite class="article">title</cite>.</ref> -->
			</references>

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{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean compound"><li> {{ArticleTitle|The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it - S2 / Fy, DG / Q66,83}}
<onlyinclude><dfn {{IS2/Fy/class}} data-qid="66,83" data-numbersign="404" data-series="" data-work="Deltarune" data-lexeme="">{{IS2}}[[E:Q66,83|The final tragedy is something Ralsei would overcome with kindness]]{{#if: {{{3|}}} | {{{3}}} | <ins class="note series_deltarune"> (<cite>Deltarune</cite>)</ins> }}{{#if: {{{2|}}} | <ins class="edition-sense term"> ([[E:Q66,83/{{{2}}}|{{{2}}}]]<nowiki />)</ins> }}{{WaveScore|sum=1|quilt=1|ply=1|enddfn=1}}</onlyinclude>
</li></ol>

== Core characteristics ==

<dl class="wikitable hue">
{{HueClaim |P=item type| {{Template:S1}} }}
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA/L|lang=en| {{E:Q66,83}} }}
{{HueRoster|EP=PPPA|lang=en| The final tragedy is something Ralsei would overcome with kindness | The final tragedy is something that would prompt Ralsei to be kind to someone in order to prevent it (to be nice; mercy; The Prophecy, Deltarune) }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P42| -- }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P34| {{E:Q7617}} }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P3| -- }}
{{HueRoster|EP=P4| Deltarune fan theory [[Category:Deltarune fan theories ontology]] }} 
{{HueRoster|EP=P35/TS| {{E:Q618/Fy|The Prophecy (Deltarune)}} [[Category:Prophecy ontology (Deltarune)]] }}
</dl>

== Wavebuilder combinations ==

<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">
{{WaveBuildNone| -- | -- | -- }} 
</dl>

== Usage notes ==

[[Category:S2 Double-Signifying Statements]]  __NOTOC__