Ontology talk:9k/Q618-LawyersVersusAceAttorney - Revision history

Reversedragon: Attorneys don't decide the outcome of the case / created yesterday

2026-06-17T08:37:10Z

Attorneys don't decide the outcome of the case / created yesterday

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/LR\|tradition=LR\|Q=17,55\|Q2=1755\|h4 = 5th Amendment }} [https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment] / The prosecution can't call the defendant (United States) {{YouTube\|xu6ZRWp9rA4}}		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/LR\|tradition=\|Q=17,55\|Q2=1755\|h4 = 5th Amendment }} [https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment] / The prosecution can't call the defendant (United States) {{YouTube\|xu6ZRWp9rA4}}

	{{li\|I=S2/LR\|tradition=LR\|Q=17,55\|Q2=1755}}Requiring a trial verdict within three days of arrest is so bad the Magna Carta should have been able to prohibit it [https://web.archive.org/web/20150426105736/https://tay.kotaku.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-1694116058/+andrasneltz]		{{li\|I=S2/LR\|tradition=\|Q=17,55\|Q2=1755}}Requiring a trial verdict within three days of arrest is so bad the Magna Carta should have been able to prohibit it [https://web.archive.org/web/20150426105736/https://tay.kotaku.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-1694116058/+andrasneltz]

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			{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/Fy\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Don't ask a lawyer to find all the small details that don't add up; they will find all the structural problems in the mystery or crime story as well as the stated details [https://web.archive.org/web/20201108091537/https://tay.kinja.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-justic-1695273699] -> so you're telling me lawyers make good fiction writers if they felt like it. interesting thought.

			{{li\|I=S2/Fy\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}{{game\|Justice for All}} did not really explore the problem of what it means to be a defense attorney; the concept of Phoenix only having to defend the innocent was not necessarily challenged because the second layer of consequences simplified things rather than complicated them [https://web.archive.org/web/20201108091537/https://tay.kinja.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-justic-1695273699] -> huh. I didn't think too deeply until now about the fact that this was a classic ethics thought experiment of changing the outcome of a fitting action and seeing what happens. very nice observation.

			{{li\|I=S2/LR\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Attorneys don't decide the outcome of the case, so their ethical opinion on the "Guilty / Not Guilty" axis in particular doesn't matter

			{{li\|I=S2/LR\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}In the real world Phoenix would not be allowed to represent someone in a crime he was already a witness to; this happens to partially shield him from, and likely prevent, the dramatic situation of the criminal blackmailing witnesses [https://web.archive.org/web/20201108091537/https://tay.kinja.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-justic-1695273699]

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Reversedragon: Requiring a trial verdict within three days of arrest is so bad the Magna Carta should have been able to prohibit it

2026-06-16T08:28:43Z

Requiring a trial verdict within three days of arrest is so bad the Magna Carta should have been able to prohibit it

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			{{li\|I=S1/Fy/LR\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}lawyers react to Ace Attorney / "it was funny how inaccurate it was" [https://web.archive.org/web/20150426105736/https://tay.kotaku.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-1694116058/+andrasneltz]

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			{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/LR\|tradition=LR\|Q=17,55\|Q2=1755\|h4 = 5th Amendment }} [https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment] / The prosecution can't call the defendant (United States) {{YouTube\|xu6ZRWp9rA4}}

			{{li\|I=S2/LR\|tradition=LR\|Q=17,55\|Q2=1755}}Requiring a trial verdict within three days of arrest is so bad the Magna Carta should have been able to prohibit it [https://web.archive.org/web/20150426105736/https://tay.kotaku.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-1694116058/+andrasneltz]

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Reversedragon: copy markup from 9k/Q17,55

2026-06-16T05:26:54Z

copy markup from 9k/Q17,55

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