Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q12992 - Revision history

Reversedragon: Yaroshenkoism, agorism

2026-06-08T06:13:57Z

Yaroshenkoism, agorism

Reversedragon: Psychoanalysis is blue / Fictional works are green

2026-06-07T10:27:44Z

Psychoanalysis is blue / Fictional works are green

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=12,9,92\|Q2=12992~~\|h4=~~ level-1 rules }} ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> the "mandatory" set of swatch assignment rules that likely will not change.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=12,9,92\|Q2=12992}}level-1 rules ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> the "mandatory" set of swatch assignment rules that likely will not change.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=12,9,84\|Q2=12984\|h4= Stalin's Marxism must be crimson }} / The crimson swatch color must be used for Stalin's Marxism ({{TTS\|ML}}) to reflect that this is the most common meaning of "Communism" and "Reds" in most Liberal-republican countries regardless of the ideological faction people are on when they use the term; this includes Stalin's party and Hoxhaism but does not explicitly include Maoism -> note that "crimson" is a [[E:Roses are cardinal, violets are sunbird, colors are groupings that have been numbered\|signifier that groups things]], and what real actual color it will be rendered in on the screen is an entirely separate thing. colorblind or monochrome stylesheets are completely respected on this project.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=12,9,84\|Q2=12984\|h4= Stalin's Marxism must be crimson }} / The crimson swatch color must be used for Stalin's Marxism ({{TTS\|ML}}) to reflect that this is the most common meaning of "Communism" and "Reds" in most Liberal-republican countries regardless of the ideological faction people are on when they use the term; this includes Stalin's party and Hoxhaism but does not explicitly include Maoism -> note that "crimson" is a [[E:Roses are cardinal, violets are sunbird, colors are groupings that have been numbered\|signifier that groups things]], and what real actual color it will be rendered in on the screen is an entirely separate thing. colorblind or monochrome stylesheets are completely respected on this project.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/A\|Q=12,9,75\|Q2=12975\|h4= Anarchism must be charcoal }} / The black swatch color must be used for anarchism (the totality of philosophies claiming to be both "against capitalism" in a Marxist sense and "anarchism"; philosophy tag {{TTS\|A\|'A'}}), to reflect that this has been the traditional symbol used within anarchist movements for over a century; although this swatch color is black in concept, it may be rendered in a charcoal-gray color in contexts such as stylesheets if that looks more visually appealing		{{li\|I=S2/MX/A\|Q=12,9,75\|Q2=12975\|h4= Anarchism is charcoal }} / Anarchism must be charcoal / The black swatch color must be used for anarchism (the totality of philosophies claiming to be both "against capitalism" in a Marxist sense and "anarchism"; philosophy tag {{TTS\|A\|'A'}}), to reflect that this has been the traditional symbol used within anarchist movements for over a century; although this swatch color is black in concept, it may be rendered in a charcoal-gray color in contexts such as stylesheets if that looks more visually appealing

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/PT\|Q=12,9,88\|Q2=12988\|h4= European fascism must be brown }} / The khaki brown swatch color must be used for classical European fascisms, including: Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, Imperial Japan		{{li\|I=S2/MX/PT\|Q=12,9,88\|Q2=12988\|h4= European fascism is brown }} / European fascism must be brown / The khaki brown swatch color must be used for classical European fascisms, including: Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, Imperial Japan

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	{{li\|I=S2/MX/DX\|Q=12,9,85\|Q2=12985\|h4= Eclectic Marxism is strawberry }} / Eclectic versions of Marxism that contain some amount of Marxism yet improperly mix in Idealism, religion, conflating peasants and employees, or other particular forms of bourgeois ideology that cause problems for understanding Marxism will be marked with the pale-red "strawberry" swatch color -> this is one of the shakiest "basic rules" — I think the distinction between Materialism ({{TTS\|ML}}) and eclectic Materialism (philosophy tags {{TTS\|W, DX\|West, DX}}) is solid, but I am not entirely sure if the strawberry swatch should be divided into more swatches when it comes to identifying social structures which are particularly at fault for generating strawberry ideology.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/DX\|Q=12,9,85\|Q2=12985\|h4= Eclectic Marxism is strawberry }} / Eclectic versions of Marxism that contain some amount of Marxism yet improperly mix in Idealism, religion, conflating peasants and employees, or other particular forms of bourgeois ideology that cause problems for understanding Marxism will be marked with the pale-red "strawberry" swatch color -> this is one of the shakiest "basic rules" — I think the distinction between Materialism ({{TTS\|ML}}) and eclectic Materialism (philosophy tags {{TTS\|W, DX\|West, DX}}) is solid, but I am not entirely sure if the strawberry swatch should be divided into more swatches when it comes to identifying social structures which are particularly at fault for generating strawberry ideology.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/Fy\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= Fictional works are green }} / Fiction is green / The bright green swatch will be used for fictional works, arbitrarily constructed board games, and topics within the arts which strongly resemble these topics / Fandoms are green

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			== Level-3 rules ==
			<ol class="hue clean">

			{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=12,9,92\|Q2=12992}}level-3 rules ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> this is where the rules often start devolving into intuitions that I then have to investigate and check several times.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/Aa\|Q=12,9,43\|Q2=12943}}Psychoanalysis is blue / Freudian psychoanalysis (philosophy tag {{TTS\|Aa\|A-A}}) is blue because it is frequently used to promote anticommunism and people bursting out of Marxist states to become various skilled trades including novelists and playwrights, or psychoanalysts themselves; Jungian psychoanalysis is used to condemn psychological repression and conformity and try to paint <s>as criminal</s> as violently dangerous and undesirable <s>any national border</s> any bordered group of people that does not base itself specifically on the perceived freedom, happiness, and lack of regulation of individuals; Lacanian psychoanalysis is used to claim that Toryism exists because Tories are psychologically stunted individuals and if they are only forced to develop into Real Humans by ignoring them long enough then the form of government every Real Human naturally desires to come together and create, Liberal-republicanism, will be fine

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/ES\|Q=12,9,42\|Q2=12942}}Existence-philosophy is blue / Early existentialism is blue / The existentialist period of philosophy ({{TTS\|ES\|E-S}}) is blue because it uses similar forms of reasoning to psychoanalysis

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			== Level-4 rules ==
			<ol class="hue clean field_ML field_horror">

			{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=12,9,92\|Q2=12992}}level-4 rules ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> the final level of rules, whatever number of levels it will be, is the most arbitrary stuff that's subject to change at any time.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/MD\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Early Bolshevism is vermilion / The vermilion swatch color, neatly in-between the crimson and flame-orange swatches, will be used to represent real or hypothetical versions of Marxism that combine both Trotskyist theorists and "Stalinist" theorists; this swatch refers to very few concrete things that have already happened, but may or may not include Lenin himself, and includes the hypothetical situation of crimson parties (not strawberry parties) and orange parties attempting to form a Communist International in order to settle onto one version of Marxism / The vermilion swatch color ({{TTS\|html=code\|.field_14quarters\|field fourteen-quarters}}) will be used to represent alliances between "Stalinists" and Trotskyists, without intending to clearly imply these alliances are stable

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/Fy\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= Fictional works are green }}

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/DFy\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= Dark stories are forest }} / The dark green or forest green swatch color will be used for concepts within the scope of the bright green swatch color which involve "dark" events, which at different times may include horror works, tragedy works, dark-fantasy works, conceptual swaths of things identified as elemental antagonisms within fiction (for instance, the consistent dichotomy of Good versus Prosecutors in the {{game\|Ace Attorney}} games), villains, or evil empires; the dark green swatch color is a direct variation on the bright green swatch color -> this swatch mostly exists to break up really long lines of green, so that discussing fiction doesn't make the swatch system pointless.

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	== Related ==		== Related ==
	<ol class="hue clean ~~field_ML~~">		<ol class="hue clean">

	~~{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/MD\|Q=40,59\|Q2=4059\|h4= Math can save Trotsky }} -> vermilion Marxism / fourteen-quarters swatch~~

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=12,9,74\|Q2=12974}}Trotskyism is orange / Trotskyism is fire-red -> I'd say you shouldn't phrase it like that but the Pokémon on the cover of FireRed is Charizard, and Charizard is orange. there is a very weird joke trying to pop out of this statement involving the Trotskyist swatch and Charizard		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=12,9,74\|Q2=12974}}Trotskyism is orange / Trotskyism is fire-red -> I'd say you shouldn't phrase it like that but the Pokémon on the cover of FireRed is Charizard, and Charizard is orange. there is a very weird joke trying to pop out of this statement involving the Trotskyist swatch and Charizard

	</li></ol>		</li></ol>

Reversedragon: Meta-Marxism is violet / Liberal-republicanism is usually blue / Anarchism is charcoal / Eclectic Marxism is strawberry

2026-06-07T03:08:54Z

Meta-Marxism is violet / Liberal-republicanism is usually blue / Anarchism is charcoal / Eclectic Marxism is strawberry

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	== Basic rules ==		== Basic rules ==
	<ol class="hue clean">		<ol class="hue clean terse">

			{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=12,9,92\|Q2=12992\|h4= level-1 rules }} ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> the "mandatory" set of swatch assignment rules that likely will not change.

	{{li~~\|start=y~~\|I=S1/MX\|Q=12,9,92\|Q2=~~12992~~}}~~level-1 rules~~ ({{~~int:sitename~~}} ~~color swatch system~~) -> ~~the~~ "~~mandatory~~" ~~set of swatch assignment rules~~ that ~~likely~~ will ~~not change~~.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=12,9,84\|Q2=12984\|h4= Stalin's Marxism must be crimson }} / The crimson swatch color must be used for Stalin's Marxism ({{TTS\|ML}}) to reflect that this is the most common meaning of "Communism" and "Reds" in most Liberal-republican countries regardless of the ideological faction people are on when they use the term; this includes Stalin's party and Hoxhaism but does not explicitly include Maoism -> note that "crimson" is a [[E:Roses are cardinal, violets are sunbird, colors are groupings that have been numbered\|signifier that groups things]], and what real actual color it will be rendered in on the screen is an entirely separate thing. colorblind or monochrome stylesheets are completely respected on this project.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=12,9,84\|Q2=~~12984~~}}~~Stalin's Marxism must be crimson~~ / The ~~crimson~~ swatch color must be used for ~~Stalin's Marxism to reflect that this is~~ the ~~most common meaning~~ of "~~Communism~~" and "~~Reds~~" ~~in most Liberal-republican countries regardless of people~~'~~s ideological faction; this includes Stalin~~'~~s party and Hoxhaism but does not explicitly include Maoism -> note that "crimson" is a [[E:Roses are cardinal~~, ~~violets are sunbird, colors are groupings~~ that ~~have~~ been ~~numbered\|signifier that groups things]]~~, ~~and what real actual color~~ it ~~will~~ be rendered in ~~on the screen is an entirely separate thing. colorblind or monochrome~~ stylesheets ~~are completely respected on this project.~~		{{li\|I=S2/MX/A\|Q=12,9,75\|Q2=12975\|h4= Anarchism must be charcoal }} / The black swatch color must be used for anarchism (the totality of philosophies claiming to be both "against capitalism" in a Marxist sense and "anarchism"; philosophy tag {{TTS\|A\|'A'}}), to reflect that this has been the traditional symbol used within anarchist movements for over a century; although this swatch color is black in concept, it may be rendered in a charcoal-gray color in contexts such as stylesheets if that looks more visually appealing

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/PT\|Q=12,9,88\|Q2=12988}}European fascism must be brown / The khaki brown swatch color must be used for classical European fascisms, including: Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, Imperial Japan		{{li\|I=S2/MX/PT\|Q=12,9,88\|Q2=12988\|h4= European fascism must be brown }} / The khaki brown swatch color must be used for classical European fascisms, including: Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, Imperial Japan

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=12,9,92\|Q2=12992}}level-2 rules ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> the second set of basic rules that is relatively well-decided-on but is not as "strictly mandatory". these rules have slightly less firm justification but are also fairly unlikely to change.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=12,9,92\|Q2=12992}}level-2 rules ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> the second set of basic rules that is relatively well-decided-on but is not as "strictly mandatory". these rules have slightly less firm justification but are also fairly unlikely to change.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/PT\|Q=12,9,89\|Q2=12989}}Duginism is brown / Dugin's so-called "fourth" political ideology and The European New Right are similar enough to classical European fascism to be brown		{{li\|I=S2/MX/MX\|Q=12,92,0\|Q2=12920\|h4= meta-Marxism is violet }} / The violet swatch color will be used for [[EC:9k/RD/Q92\|meta-Marxism]] — a body of methods internally given a boundary by particular rules, in which whole Marxist movements taking place in a particular country or region are analyzed as developing material objects which might be in conflict with each other and get into heated material contradictions despite both attempting to be versions of Marxism and both claiming to be able to create a new historical period which will involve workers' government and socialist transition; this violet swatch color is an intermediate violet which is not specified to be either red-violet or blue-violet, and these colors are left open as options for specialized swatch colors that may be assigned to specific philosophy tags later

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/PT\|Q=12,9,89\|Q2=12989\|h4= Duginism is brown }} / Alexander Dugin's so-called "fourth" political ideology ({{TTS\|P4}}) and The European New Right are similar enough to classical European fascism to be brown

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/PT\|Q=12,9,87\|Q2=12987\|h4= Toryism is brown }} / Tory parties ({{TTS\|PT}}) such as the US Republican Party and UK Conservative Party are similar enough to Duginism (not Nazi Germany, not World War II) to be brown -> one question that might come up in the minds of any experienced Marxists who find this project is, why distinguish Toryism as its own ideology separate from Liberal-republicanism (= capitalist government, capitalist ideology) as a whole? and the answer is, the United States is so politically bankrupt that absolutely every progressive movement that has ever existed from unions to the civil rights movement to anarchism and schizoanalysis to just {{em\|everything}} has defined itself in opposition or in relation to Toryism (the Free Software movement has referenced Toryism in two different directions, either saying 'I'm [[E:Nina Paley\|anti-trans]] just like the Tories' or 'the Tories are being [[E:Mike Masnick\|too stingy]] with their business territories'). so, without knowing in detail what Toryism is and simply letting people label bad things they want to oppose "Toryism" it's somewhat literally impossible to create even a single organization anywhere in the United States. everyone who lives in the US knows that if you simply let people classify and name ideologies however they want, they'll try to tell you that all conservative parties are indistinguishable from European fascism, and then Tories will argue in different words that they're Tories and not fascists, and the progressives will lose the argument that fascism already exists or is forming and it'll get really ugly.<br/>
			I choose to use this knowledge to claim that Liberal-republicans are very very slowly learning meta-Marxist color swatch analysis, and it {{em\|might}} be possible to use people's back and forth contradiction against Toryism to actually teach them what ideologies are, how many total ideologies exist besides just center-Liberalism and Toryism, and how all of them relate to historical materialism, historical periods, and historical transitions. I don't think there are any guarantees on that. but it does make it easier to talk about US, UK, and Australian politics without dismissing all of it and throwing it all in the trash.

	{{li\|I=S2/~~MX/PT~~\|Q=12,9,87\|Q2=~~12987~~}}~~Toryism is brown~~ / ~~Tory parties such~~ as the US ~~Republican~~ Party and ~~UK Conservative~~ Party ~~are similar enough to Duginism~~ (~~not Nazi Germany, not World War II~~) to be ~~brown~~		{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=12,9,76\|Q2=12976\|h4= Liberal-republicanism is usually blue }} / The sky-blue swatch color will be used for Liberal-republican philosophies ({{TTS\|LR}}) which are not clearly identifiable as Toryism; this includes the US Democratic Party and the British Labor Party, as well as traditional Enlightenment-era authors now associated with Liberal-republicanism such as Kant / The sky-blue swatch color ({{TTS\|html=code\|.field_exstruct\|field ex-struct}}) will be used for center-Liberalism and most of Liberal-republicanism

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=12,9,74\|Q2=12974}}Trotskyism is orange / The flame-orange swatch color will be used for Trotskyism (the totality of attempts to form a Fourth International) to reflect its deep and ongoing material conflict with Stalin's Marxism from circa 1904 through 2026; their neatly symmetric, back-and-forth "civil war" with each other in which they have [[E:unity of opposites (Marxism)\|defined and changed each other]] through [[E:material contradiction (Marxism)\|sustained resistance to each other]] arguably makes them entirely separate movements that at some unclear point in history (or fuzzy range of time) divided off and put a gap between each other instead of ~~being~~ two wings of one movement		{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=12,9,74\|Q2=12974\|h4= Trotskyism is orange }} / The flame-orange swatch color will be used for Trotskyism (the totality of attempts to form a Fourth International; philosophy tag {{TTS\|IV\|'Fourth'}}) to reflect its deep and ongoing material conflict with Stalin's Marxism ({{TTS\|ML}}) from circa 1904 through 2026; their neatly symmetric, back-and-forth "civil war" with each other in which they have [[E:unity of opposites (Marxism)\|defined and changed each other]] through [[E:material contradiction (Marxism)\|sustained resistance to each other]] arguably makes them entirely separate movements that at some unclear point in history (or fuzzy range of time) divided off and put a gap between each other instead of remaining two wings of one movement

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/DX\|Q=12,9,85\|Q2=12985\|h4= Eclectic Marxism is strawberry }} / Eclectic versions of Marxism that contain some amount of Marxism yet improperly mix in Idealism, religion, conflating peasants and employees, or other particular forms of bourgeois ideology that cause problems for understanding Marxism will be marked with the pale-red "strawberry" swatch color -> this is one of the shakiest "basic rules" — I think the distinction between Materialism ({{TTS\|ML}}) and eclectic Materialism (philosophy tags {{TTS\|W, DX\|West, DX}}) is solid, but I am not entirely sure if the strawberry swatch should be divided into more swatches when it comes to identifying social structures which are particularly at fault for generating strawberry ideology.

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/MD\|Q=40,59\|Q2=4059\|h4= Math can save Trotsky }} -> vermilion Marxism / fourteen-quarters swatch		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/MD\|Q=40,59\|Q2=4059\|h4= Math can save Trotsky }} -> vermilion Marxism / fourteen-quarters swatch

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=12,9,74\|Q2=12974}}Trotskyism is orange / Trotskyism is fire-red -> I'd say you shouldn't phrase it like that but the Pokémon on the cover of FireRed is Charizard, and Charizard is orange. there is a very weird joke trying to pop out of this statement involving the Trotskyist swatch and Charizard

	</li></ol>		</li></ol>

Reversedragon: copy markup from Q40,59

2026-06-07T01:19:44Z

copy markup from Q40,59

New page

{{NextNineThousand|PPPA=color swatch system|User=RD|E=Q12,9,92|Contents=y}}
== Main entry ==
{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean field_ML">

{{li|start=y|I=S1/MX|Q=12,9,90|Q2=12990}}{{int:sitename}} philosophy classification systems / philosophy tag / philosophy code / ideology code / ideology tag / philosophy tag or ideology code for "non-partisan" field of academic study

{{li|I=S1/MX|Q=12,9,92|Q2=12992}}{{int:sitename}} color swatch system -> an entry which will formally lay out the rules for what puts things in each color swatch one by one. this entry really is focused only on the swatches, not the 2-3 letter philosophy tags which are used in contexts that resemble black-and-white publications.

</li></ol>

== Basic rules ==
<ol class="hue clean">

{{li|start=y|I=S1/MX|Q=12,9,92|Q2=12992}}level-1 rules ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> the "mandatory" set of swatch assignment rules that likely will not change.

{{li|I=S2/MX/ML|Q=12,9,84|Q2=12984}}Stalin's Marxism must be crimson / The crimson swatch color must be used for Stalin's Marxism to reflect that this is the most common meaning of "Communism" and "Reds" in most Liberal-republican countries regardless of people's ideological faction; this includes Stalin's party and Hoxhaism but does not explicitly include Maoism -> note that "crimson" is a [[E:Roses are cardinal, violets are sunbird, colors are groupings that have been numbered|signifier that groups things]], and what real actual color it will be rendered in on the screen is an entirely separate thing. colorblind or monochrome stylesheets are completely respected on this project.

{{li|I=S2/MX/PT|Q=12,9,88|Q2=12988}}European fascism must be brown / The khaki brown swatch color must be used for classical European fascisms, including: Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, Imperial Japan

</li></ol>

== Level-2 rules ==
<ol class="hue clean">

{{li|start=y|I=S1/MX|Q=12,9,92|Q2=12992}}level-2 rules ({{int:sitename}} color swatch system) -> the second set of basic rules that is relatively well-decided-on but is not as "strictly mandatory". these rules have slightly less firm justification but are also fairly unlikely to change.

{{li|I=S2/MX/PT|Q=12,9,89|Q2=12989}}Duginism is brown / Dugin's so-called "fourth" political ideology and The European New Right are similar enough to classical European fascism to be brown

{{li|I=S2/MX/PT|Q=12,9,87|Q2=12987}}Toryism is brown / Tory parties such as the US Republican Party and UK Conservative Party are similar enough to Duginism (not Nazi Germany, not World War II) to be brown

{{li|I=S2/MX/IV|Q=12,9,74|Q2=12974}}Trotskyism is orange / The flame-orange swatch color will be used for Trotskyism (the totality of attempts to form a Fourth International) to reflect its deep and ongoing material conflict with Stalin's Marxism from circa 1904 through 2026; their neatly symmetric, back-and-forth "civil war" with each other in which they have [[E:unity of opposites (Marxism)|defined and changed each other]] through [[E:material contradiction (Marxism)|sustained resistance to each other]] arguably makes them entirely separate movements that at some unclear point in history (or fuzzy range of time) divided off and put a gap between each other instead of being two wings of one movement

</li></ol>

== Related ==
<ol class="hue clean field_ML">

{{li|start=y|I=S2/MX/MD|Q=40,59|Q2=4059|h4= Math can save Trotsky }} -> vermilion Marxism / fourteen-quarters swatch

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== Ideologies or fields ==

* MX / meta-Marxism


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