Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q17,40 - Revision history

Reversedragon: scientific theoretical struggle is subordinated to hermeneutical struggle

2026-04-27T04:02:02Z

scientific theoretical struggle is subordinated to hermeneutical struggle

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	{{li\|I=S1/ML\|tradition=ML, A onto ML, MS\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740\|h4 = stay with the program}} (Marxism) / we believe we've found the correct program, and that's the program we have to stick with {{YouTube\|I1dvazI6gcs}} <!-- / stick to the program -->		{{li\|I=S1/ML\|tradition=ML, A onto ML, MS\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740\|h4 = stay with the program}} (Marxism) / we believe we've found the correct program, and that's the program we have to stick with {{YouTube\|I1dvazI6gcs}} <!-- / stick to the program -->
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	{{li\|I=S1/A\|tradition=ML, A onto ML\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}Marxists not updating theories through evidence or reason because 'anarchists aren't correct enough to judge them' ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) / dogmatism ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) -> one of the only anarchist criticisms of Marxism that is actually fair. even the Marxisms that are relatively good run into this weird trap where they get deadlocked and each think the other one is revisionist and they're correct and the other one needs to update itself. which is not really achieving the goals of the scientific method. this is why we need a [[E:meta-Marxism\|meta-Marxism]] that can study the interaction of both Marxisms before taking a side.		{{li\|I=S1/A\|tradition=ML, A onto ML\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}Marxists not updating theories through evidence or reason because 'anarchists aren't correct enough to judge them' ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) / dogmatism ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) -> one of the only anarchist criticisms of Marxism that is actually fair. even the Marxisms that are relatively good run into this weird trap where they get deadlocked and each think the other one is revisionist and they're correct and the other one needs to update itself. which is not really achieving the goals of the scientific method. this is why we need a [[E:meta-Marxism\|meta-Marxism]] that can study the interaction of both Marxisms before taking a side.

	{{li\|I=S1/ML/MZ\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}quote-mongering protectionism of little ML kingdoms (J. Moufawad-Paul 2020) [https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/N05-Critique-of-Maoist-Reason-6th-Printing.pdf]		{{li\|I=S1/ML/MZ\|class=field_ML field_mao\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}quote-mongering protectionism of little ML kingdoms (J. Moufawad-Paul 2020) [https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/N05-Critique-of-Maoist-Reason-6th-Printing.pdf] / all of the creative thinking — all of the love for intellectual investigation — is tragically eclipsed by a refusal to think about anything but what is already accepted

			{{li\|I=S1/ML/MZ\|class=field_ML field_mao\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}scientific theoretical struggle is subordinated to hermeneutical struggle

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Reversedragon: quote-mongering protectionism of little ML kingdoms

2026-04-27T02:47:48Z

quote-mongering protectionism of little ML kingdoms

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	{{li\|I=S1/A\|tradition=ML, A onto ML\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}Marxists not updating theories through evidence or reason because 'anarchists aren't correct enough to judge them' ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) / dogmatism ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) -> one of the only anarchist criticisms of Marxism that is actually fair. even the Marxisms that are relatively good run into this weird trap where they get deadlocked and each think the other one is revisionist and they're correct and the other one needs to update itself. which is not really achieving the goals of the scientific method. this is why we need a [[E:meta-Marxism\|meta-Marxism]] that can study the interaction of both Marxisms before taking a side.		{{li\|I=S1/A\|tradition=ML, A onto ML\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}Marxists not updating theories through evidence or reason because 'anarchists aren't correct enough to judge them' ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) / dogmatism ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) -> one of the only anarchist criticisms of Marxism that is actually fair. even the Marxisms that are relatively good run into this weird trap where they get deadlocked and each think the other one is revisionist and they're correct and the other one needs to update itself. which is not really achieving the goals of the scientific method. this is why we need a [[E:meta-Marxism\|meta-Marxism]] that can study the interaction of both Marxisms before taking a side.

			{{li\|I=S1/ML/MZ\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}quote-mongering protectionism of little ML kingdoms (J. Moufawad-Paul 2020) [https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/N05-Critique-of-Maoist-Reason-6th-Printing.pdf]

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	<pre>[9k] stay with the program - Q17,40 ~~- next nine thousand~~ ; stick to the program ; dogmatism (anarchism)</pre>		<pre aria-hidden="true">[9k] stay with the program - Q17,40;Q1740 ; stick to the program ; dogmatism (anarchism) ; quote-mongering protectionism of ML kingdoms</pre>

Reversedragon: stick to the program

2026-04-11T06:19:46Z

stick to the program

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	{{li\|I=S1/ML\|tradition=ML, A onto ML, ~~?? / Hoxhaism~~\|Q=~~618~~\|h4 = stay with the program}} (Marxism) / we believe we've found the correct program, and that's the program we have to stick with {{YouTube\|I1dvazI6gcs}}		{{li\|I=S1/ML\|tradition=ML, A onto ML, MS\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740\|h4 = stay with the program}} (Marxism) / we believe we've found the correct program, and that's the program we have to stick with {{YouTube\|I1dvazI6gcs}} <!-- / stick to the program -->

	{{li\|I=S1/A\|tradition=ML, A onto ML\|Q=~~618~~}}Marxists not updating theories through evidence or reason because 'anarchists aren't correct enough to judge them' ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) / dogmatism ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) -> one of the only anarchist criticisms of Marxism that is actually fair. even the Marxisms that are relatively good run into this weird trap where they get deadlocked and each think the other one is revisionist and they're correct and the other one needs to update itself. which is not really achieving the goals of the scientific method. this is why we need a [[E:meta-Marxism\|meta-Marxism]] that can study the interaction of both Marxisms before taking a side.		{{li\|I=S1/A\|tradition=ML, A onto ML\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}Marxists not updating theories through evidence or reason because 'anarchists aren't correct enough to judge them' ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) / dogmatism ({{TTS\|tts=anarchism onto Marxism\|A onto ML}}) -> one of the only anarchist criticisms of Marxism that is actually fair. even the Marxisms that are relatively good run into this weird trap where they get deadlocked and each think the other one is revisionist and they're correct and the other one needs to update itself. which is not really achieving the goals of the scientific method. this is why we need a [[E:meta-Marxism\|meta-Marxism]] that can study the interaction of both Marxisms before taking a side.

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Reversedragon: create ideology code for Hoxhaism

2026-03-31T01:19:10Z

create ideology code for Hoxhaism

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Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q1740 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q17,40: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

2026-03-31T01:03:04Z

Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q1740 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q17,40: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

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Reversedragon: copy markup from Q41,04

2026-03-31T01:02:47Z

copy markup from Q41,04

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{{NextNineThousand|PPPA=stay with the program|User=RD|E=Q17,40|Contents=y}}
== Main entry ==
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{{li|I=S1/ML|tradition=ML, A onto ML, ?? / Hoxhaism|Q=618|h4 = stay with the program}} (Marxism) / we believe we've found the correct program, and that's the program we have to stick with {{YouTube|I1dvazI6gcs}}

{{li|I=S1/A|tradition=ML, A onto ML|Q=618}}Marxists not updating theories through evidence or reason because 'anarchists aren't correct enough to judge them' ({{TTS|tts=anarchism onto Marxism|A onto ML}}) / dogmatism ({{TTS|tts=anarchism onto Marxism|A onto ML}}) -> one of the only anarchist criticisms of Marxism that is actually fair. even the Marxisms that are relatively good run into this weird trap where they get deadlocked and each think the other one is revisionist and they're correct and the other one needs to update itself. which is not really achieving the goals of the scientific method. this is why we need a [[E:meta-Marxism|meta-Marxism]] that can study the interaction of both Marxisms before taking a side.

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