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Reversedragon: Anarchy can be anhierarchy

2026-04-07T05:30:38Z

Anarchy can be anhierarchy

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	{{li\|I=Z2/ES\|tradition=MX onto ES\|Q=618}}International sanctions do not require law of any kind nor formal government of any kind; they can happen in an anhierarchic environment -> this is an observed fact, making it a Z2 Statement.		{{li\|I=Z2/ES\|tradition=MX onto ES\|Q=618}}Sanctions can be anarchic / International sanctions do not require law of any kind nor formal government of any kind; they can happen in an {{a\|anhierarchic\|E=Anarchy is not anhierarchy}} environment or in select cases in things which can be termed {{a\|blue\|E=Existentialist-Structuralist tradition}} {{a\|anarchies\|E=stationary combination of heterogeneous elements}} -> this is an observed fact which is concrete, making it a Z2 Statement. if you wish to change the Ontology entry, change the proposition itself to the observation that is accurate rather than marking it false.
	case of: Q49 real-world observation.		case of: Q49 real-world observation.

	{{li\|I=F2/A\|Q=50,54\|Q2=5054}}Anarchy is not anhierarchy / Anarchy ~~cannot~~ be anhierarchy -> anarchists ~~love~~ to say ~~this~~ is ~~true~~ but ~~in practice it just isn~~'t ~~true at all because all it takes~~ is ~~a large~~ number of people ~~coming~~ together in ~~friendship and nominal 'equality' and [[E:Rhizome (schizoanalysis)\|headless leaderlessness]]~~ who ~~are materially practicing anhierarchy for that~~ to ~~become for~~ all ~~intents~~ and ~~purposes part~~ of ~~the definition~~ of ~~anarchy~~.		{{li\|I=F2/A \|Q=50,54\|Q2=5054}}Anarchy is not anhierarchy / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,54\|9k]])
			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=50,54\|Q2=5054}}Anarchy can be anhierarchy / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,54\|9k]]) -> Cuba is one of the best examples. anarchists go around trying to say that the negative effects that occur during Government or a locus of conjoined patriots [[E:Correlation is not causation\|happen {{em\|because of}} Government]], but what they don't realize is that there can be any number of cases where similar negative effects occur from decentralized processes in which people come together as equals and nobody rules anybody else, all the un-governed equals in the process who fairly agreed with each other to enter the process as a matter of peace and friendship just spontaneously all collect onto a decision that's really terrible, and somewhat literally a bunch of equal people simply decide to be more equal than other groups of equals.<br/>
	</li><li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX onto A" value="5054" data-dimension="S2">Anarchies and hierarchy are not mutually exclusive -> anarchists are going to hate this one but the further you look into it the more it would seem to be true. you almost can~~'t even <~~em~~>define</em>~~ an anarchy ~~as requiring the absence of hierarchy because that's simply not what most anarchies are. in most cases an anarchy is purely a~~ stationary ~~or back-and-forth~~ combination of heterogeneous elements~~. that does not preclude spatial slot hierarchies over whether people are able~~ to ~~make it into any~~ of the ~~contained elements~~, ~~or the overall system~~.		something can totally, {{em\|almost indisputably}} be an {{a\|anarchy\|E=stationary combination of heterogeneous elements}} and yet do horrible things to other groups of people on the level of Bellegarrigue's concept of "civil war" (warring states periods, violent global empire).

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Reversedragon: Anarchy is not anhierarchy

2026-04-06T21:08:28Z

Anarchy is not anhierarchy

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			{{li\|I=Z2/ES\|tradition=MX onto ES\|Q=618}}International sanctions do not require law of any kind nor formal government of any kind; they can happen in an anhierarchic environment -> this is an observed fact, making it a Z2 Statement.
			case of: Q49 real-world observation.

			{{li\|I=F2/A\|Q=50,54\|Q2=5054}}Anarchy is not anhierarchy / Anarchy cannot be anhierarchy -> anarchists love to say this is true but in practice it just isn't true at all because all it takes is a large number of people coming together in friendship and nominal 'equality' and [[E:Rhizome (schizoanalysis)\|headless leaderlessness]] who are materially practicing anhierarchy for that to become for all intents and purposes part of the definition of anarchy.

			</li><li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX onto A" value="5054" data-dimension="S2">Anarchies and hierarchy are not mutually exclusive -> anarchists are going to hate this one but the further you look into it the more it would seem to be true. you almost can't even <em>define</em> an anarchy as requiring the absence of hierarchy because that's simply not what most anarchies are. in most cases an anarchy is purely a stationary or back-and-forth combination of heterogeneous elements. that does not preclude spatial slot hierarchies over whether people are able to make it into any of the contained elements, or the overall system.

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Reversedragon: fields

2026-03-25T10:22:17Z

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Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q19,61 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q1961: Misspelled title

2026-03-25T00:17:52Z

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