Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q21,50 - Revision history

Reversedragon: Trotskyists against 1619 Project

2026-08-23T22:02:09Z

Trotskyists against 1619 Project

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}A foreign country is not an institution of the United States ({{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|HM\|critical theory}}) / If it is bad [[E:lead rule (new metallic rule)\|to force onto others the forms of abuse forced onto you]] (if it is Evil or Reactionary), then the United States has no right to force entire nation-states to change or be particular things from the outside just because Black people and all minorities in the United States have experienced it -> this statement assumes you have any respect for morality, while the universe does not.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}A foreign country is not an institution of the United States ({{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|HM\|critical theory}}) / If it is bad [[E:lead rule (new metallic rule)\|to force onto others the forms of abuse forced onto you]] (if it is Evil or Reactionary), then the United States has no right to force entire nation-states to change or be particular things from the outside just because Black people and all minorities in the United States have experienced it -> this statement assumes you have any respect for morality, while the universe does not.

			{{li\|I=S1/IV\|tradition=\|Q=46,19\|Q2=4619}}Trotskyists against 1619 Project / ({{9k\|RD/Q46,19}}) -> the connection is tenuous but there. the 1619 Project is, in practice, loosely connected to the overall effort to transform the United States through 'applying ethical pressure' to all its individuals or through permeating institutions with strictly aboveground activities. in that sense, the 1619 Project is carrying out the task of a 'non-Spanish inquisition' trying to defeat bourgeois class rule with bourgeois class rule.

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Reversedragon: forbidden FF14 nightclub dead if advertised

2026-08-23T21:45:57Z

forbidden FF14 nightclub dead if advertised

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	this feels like the crux of the strange similarity between Ed Snowden and the Trotskyite conspiracy. both of them involve a leaker on the inside who went to outside sources to either intentionally or unintentionally enable everyone on the outside to attack the entire structure to force it to change.		this feels like the crux of the strange similarity between Ed Snowden and the Trotskyite conspiracy. both of them involve a leaker on the inside who went to outside sources to either intentionally or unintentionally enable everyone on the outside to attack the entire structure to force it to change.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}A foreign country is not an institution of the United States ({{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|HM\|critical theory}}) / If it is bad [[E:lead rule (new metallic rule)\|to force onto others the forms of abuse forced onto you]] (if it is Evil or Reactionary), then the United States has no right to force entire nation-states to change or be particular things from the outside just because Black people and all minorities in the United States have experienced it -> this statement assumes you have any respect for morality, while the universe does not.		{{li\|I=S1/W\|tradition=\|Q=21,50\|Q2=2150}}The Spanishness Office -> I keep thinking about this ... how normal people really love ethics and thinking that all of society runs on it but in reality if you believe them for a second what you get is a ring of bourgeoisie who are supposedly perfect stomping on all other individuals in society the moment they're not perfect. the non-Spanish inquisition arrives to crush the Spanishness Office and really you find out it's just two dueling Spanishness Offices and nothing is really changing.

			{{li\|I=S1/ES\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}twitter users attempting to kick out Elon Musk for better capitalist

			{{li\|I=S1/ES\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}cloudflare banning Google {{YouTube\|EB6BhmoSDvI}}

			{{li\|I=S1/ES\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}stopping killer dog-sitters with videos {{YouTube\|naM4YETwNW0}}

			{{li\|I=S1/ES\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}forbidden FF14 nightclub dead if advertised {{YouTube\|WoN2Eg-pTFg}} -> this one is a little more complicated in its connection. here we're dealing with the concept of "totality of non-aggressive activities" (the justification to be able to have an 'illegal' nightclub that contains ERP and game mods, both forbidden) versus the reality that whenever "[[EC:9k/RD/Q53,42\|totality of non-aggressive activities]]" comes up in real life it always comes up because other non-aggressive activities have decided the forbidden activities are aggressive to them. here, the prevailing non-aggressive activities are the normal game content and the game owners trying to declare that the normal content is all that's allowed to exist. the game owners have power to make money off anybody being in the game and full control over the game in theory. this is an initial bourgeois class rule.

			{{li\|I=S1/ML/ES\|tradition=ML onto ES, IV onto ES\|Q=618}}initial bourgeois class rule / bourgeois class rule (happening at small scales as part of civil society) / ({{9k\|RD/Q1920}}) -> the real Spanishness Office.

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			{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}A foreign country is not an institution of the United States ({{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|HM\|critical theory}}) / If it is bad [[E:lead rule (new metallic rule)\|to force onto others the forms of abuse forced onto you]] (if it is Evil or Reactionary), then the United States has no right to force entire nation-states to change or be particular things from the outside just because Black people and all minorities in the United States have experienced it -> this statement assumes you have any respect for morality, while the universe does not.

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Reversedragon: Social change happens specifically through stomping on social structures

2026-06-10T06:21:08Z

Social change happens specifically through stomping on social structures

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			{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/HM\|tradition=LR, HM, ES, A\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Social change happens specifically through stomping on social structures / Only cowards don't realize that social change happens specifically through people inside institutions leaking information and people outside institutions (consistent bounded groups of people inside public life) pressuring all the people that make up institutions to change their behavior to forms of behavior the outside considers more moral {{YouTube\|kCZyLbFXFNc}} -> this is.... a very Liberal-republican way to think, in that it's like, the method by which people are conquered into Liberal-republicanism if it were analogized to feudal orders forming. but it's also very distinctly associated with ""new"" theories of Liberal-republicanism (critical theory, moral vanguard model), and some of the concepts of anarchism. so it's weirdly in the intersection of several things.<br/>
			this feels like the crux of the strange similarity between Ed Snowden and the Trotskyite conspiracy. both of them involve a leaker on the inside who went to outside sources to either intentionally or unintentionally enable everyone on the outside to attack the entire structure to force it to change.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}A foreign country is not an institution of the United States ({{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|HM\|critical theory}}) / If it is bad [[E:lead rule (new metallic rule)\|to force onto others the forms of abuse forced onto you]] (if it is Evil or Reactionary), then the United States has no right to force entire nation-states to change or be particular things from the outside just because Black people and all minorities in the United States have experienced it -> this statement assumes you have any respect for morality, while the universe does not.

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Reversedragon: There is no spanishness office

2026-06-10T06:16:41Z

There is no spanishness office

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	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_gramsci" data-qid~~="21,50~~" value~~="2150~~" data-dimension="S">~~The Spanishness Office -> within this wiki, first brought up in <cite>MDem</cite> "[[Philosophical Research:MDem/4.4r/4064 democulture\|democulture]]" entry.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/W\|tradition=\|Q=21,50\|Q2=2150}}The Spanishness Office -> within this wiki, first brought up in <cite>MDem</cite> "[[Philosophical Research:MDem/4.4r/4064 democulture\|democulture]]" entry.

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			{{li\|I=F2/IV\|rem=vaguely resembles early, crude Marxisms\|tradition=\|Q=21,51\|Q2=2151}}[[E:ThereIsNoSpanishnessOffice\|There is no Spanishness Office]] -> the concept that culture cannot be changed through any deliberate effort, even by most movements. one could believe there is no Spanishness Office because culture is defined by the borders between populations, or because culture is produced through deterministic factors that individual will can't successfully pilot without a thorough science of society, or for any other number of reasons.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=21,52\|Q2=2152}}There are ten million Spanishness Offices -> the claim that every time the motif of The Spanishness Office shows up, this is what it is bisimilar to: a bunch of free-floating corporations or institutions which may be conflated with the will of a particular owner, or a Tory Social-Philosophical System that has occupied a free-floating charity, each time raising the problem that the institution has its own "individual will" separate from society which is resistant to Liberal-republican "democracy" and resistant to almost everything. the problem isn't in asserting that there are Spanishness Offices, though there is a serious problem when people think controlling them is as simple as taking over just one when there are closer to ten million they might not successfully secure with perhaps some five million left over and wildly doing their own thing.

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Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q2150 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q21,50: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

2026-06-10T05:35:29Z

Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q2150 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q21,50: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

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Reversedragon: copy markup from 9k/Q41,91

2026-06-10T05:35:14Z

copy markup from 9k/Q41,91

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</li><li class="field_gramsci" data-qid="21,50" value="2150" data-dimension="S">The Spanishness Office -> within this wiki, first brought up in <cite>MDem</cite> "[[Philosophical Research:MDem/4.4r/4064 democulture|democulture]]" entry.

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