Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q29,80 - Revision history

Reversedragon: test out new slightly-different swatch color for Maoism

2026-04-27T03:57:16Z

test out new slightly-different swatch color for Maoism

← Older revision		Revision as of 03:57, 27 April 2026
Line 1:		Line 1:
			{{NextNineThousand\|PPPA=Bad books are instructive\|User=RD\|E=Q29,80\|Contents=y}}
	== Main entry ==		== Main entry ==
	{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean">		{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean field_ML">

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=29,80\|Q2=2980}}Bad books are instructive / There is a lot to learn from bad books as long as you have a sufficient foundation in what's correct -> quite honestly, this is the reason that things like MrEnter's cartoon videos (or book, any of the things not about topics like horrible COVID opinions) still don't entirely bother me. learning from low-quality things is absolutely not a bad decision; you'd be doing it a lot on your own work just during the process of writing and first producing bad things and then producing better things.<br/>		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=29,80\|Q2=2980}}Bad books are instructive / There is a lot to learn from bad books as long as you have a sufficient foundation in what's correct -> quite honestly, this is the reason that things like MrEnter's cartoon videos (or book, any of the things not about topics like horrible COVID opinions) still don't entirely bother me. learning from low-quality things is absolutely not a bad decision; you'd be doing it a lot on your own work just during the process of writing and first producing bad things and then producing better things.<br/>
	the hidden nuance to this in light of meta-Marxism: bad books aren't inherently valuable purely because they "disagree" with something, they're valuable because they show the consequences of being wrong as they apply directly to yourself or others and shock you into no longer siding with contrarians just because they're contrarian. you don't truly know how bad it is to be a "conservative" or a rust-colored "centrist" until you either have a rust-tinted relative or read Dinesh D'Souza's awful book or especially if you do both. it's much more challenging for an ordinary person to turn away from Trotsky or Kropotkin, but the same basic process applies there too, you read them and take them totally seriously until you realize what they're saying is awful, and if you successfully come to that realization and it matches reality then you have improved your understanding of the world.		the hidden nuance to this in light of meta-Marxism: bad books aren't inherently valuable purely because they "disagree" with something, they're valuable because they show the consequences of being wrong as they apply directly to yourself or others and shock you into no longer siding with contrarians just because they're contrarian. you don't truly know how bad it is to be a "conservative" or a rust-colored "centrist" until you either have a rust-tinted relative or read Dinesh D'Souza's awful book or especially if you do both. it's much more challenging for an ordinary person to turn away from Trotsky or Kropotkin, but the same basic process applies there too, you read them and take them totally seriously until you realize what they're saying is awful, and if you successfully come to that realization and it matches reality then you have improved your understanding of the world.

	{{li\|I=S2/MZ\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}<span lang="en-CA">When a rejection of postmodernism is driven by a fear that results in a failure to read and understand texts according to historical and materialist factors, we do not do our movement any favours</span> (J. Moufawad-Paul 2020) [https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/N05-Critique-of-Maoist-Reason-6th-Printing.pdf] / We would not have been gifted with the materialist theories in {{book\|Capital}} without Smith, Ricardo, Malthus, and many others that Marx treated seriously		{{li\|I=S2/MZ\|class=field_ML field_mao\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}<span lang="en-CA">When a rejection of postmodernism is driven by a fear that results in a failure to read and understand texts according to historical and materialist factors, we do not do our movement any favours</span> (J. Moufawad-Paul 2020) [https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/N05-Critique-of-Maoist-Reason-6th-Printing.pdf] / We would not have been gifted with the materialist theories in {{book\|Capital}} without Smith, Ricardo, Malthus, and many others that Marx treated seriously (Moufawad-Paul)

	</li></ol>		</li></ol>

	== Related ==<!--		== Related ==<!--

	<ol class="hue clean">		<ol class="hue clean">
	</ol>-->		</ol>-->
Line 19:		Line 19:
	* MX / meta-ontology		* MX / meta-ontology
	* MZ / Maoism		* MZ / Maoism
			* NMZ / North American Maoism


	[[Category:Next nine thousand (RD)]] ~~{{NextNineThousand\|PPPA=Bad books are instructive\|User=RD\|E=Q29,80}}~~ <!-- page ends here. TTS-unfriendly numbers incoming		[[Category:Next nine thousand (RD)]] [[Category:Text pages containing experiments]] <!-- page ends here. TTS-unfriendly numbers incoming
	redirects: [[User:RD/9k/Q1980]]		redirects: [[User:RD/9k/Q1980]]
	duplication hint: copy markup from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN\|9k/Q29,80]] -->		duplication hint: copy markup from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN\|9k/Q29,80]] -->

Reversedragon: When a rejection of postmodernism is driven by a fear that results in a failure to read ... we do not do our movement any favours (Moufawad-Paul)

2026-04-27T03:43:56Z

When a rejection of postmodernism is driven by a fear that results in a failure to read ... we do not do our movement any favours (Moufawad-Paul)

← Older revision		Revision as of 03:43, 27 April 2026
Line 1:		Line 1:
	~~<!--~~ == ~~Ontology~~ entry ==		== Main entry ==
	{{~~HueNumberPreview\|E=Q29,80~~}}		{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean">

	~~-->~~== ~~Prototype notes =~~=		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=29,80\|Q2=2980}}Bad books are instructive / There is a lot to learn from bad books as long as you have a sufficient foundation in what's correct -> quite honestly, this is the reason that things like MrEnter's cartoon videos (or book, any of the things not about topics like horrible COVID opinions) still don't entirely bother me. learning from low-quality things is absolutely not a bad decision; you'd be doing it a lot on your own work just during the process of writing and first producing bad things and then producing better things.<br/>
	~~<noinclude>{{HueCSS~~}}</~~noinclude~~>~~<ol class=~~"~~hue clean~~">		the hidden nuance to this in light of meta-Marxism: bad books aren't inherently valuable purely because they "disagree" with something, they're valuable because they show the consequences of being wrong as they apply directly to yourself or others and shock you into no longer siding with contrarians just because they're contrarian. you don't truly know how bad it is to be a "conservative" or a rust-colored "centrist" until you either have a rust-tinted relative or read Dinesh D'Souza's awful book or especially if you do both. it's much more challenging for an ordinary person to turn away from Trotsky or Kropotkin, but the same basic process applies there too, you read them and take them totally seriously until you realize what they're saying is awful, and if you successfully come to that realization and it matches reality then you have improved your understanding of the world.

	~~</li><~~li ~~class~~=~~"field_mdem" data-tradition~~=~~"MX" data-qid~~=~~"29,80" value~~="~~2980" data~~-~~dimension="S2~~">~~There is~~ a ~~lot to learn from bad books as long as you have a sufficient foundation in what's correct -> quite honestly, this is the reason that things like MrEnter's cartoon videos (or book, any~~ of ~~the things not about topics like horrible COVID opinions) still don't entirely bother me. learning from low-quality things~~ is ~~absolutely not~~ a ~~bad decision; you'd be doing it~~ a ~~lot on your own work just during the process of writing~~ and ~~first producing bad things~~ and ~~then producing better things.~~<br/>		{{li\|I=S2/MZ\|Q=17,40\|Q2=1740}}<span lang="en-CA">When a rejection of postmodernism is driven by a fear that results in a failure to read and understand texts according to historical and materialist factors, we do not do our movement any favours</span> (J. Moufawad-Paul 2020) [https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/N05-Critique-of-Maoist-Reason-6th-Printing.pdf] / We would not have been gifted with the materialist theories in {{book\|Capital}} without Smith, Ricardo, Malthus, and many others that Marx treated seriously
	~~the hidden nuance to this in light of meta~~-~~Marxism~~: ~~bad books aren't inherently valuable purely because they "disagree" with something, they're valuable because they show the consequences~~ of ~~being wrong as they apply directly to yourself or others and shock you into no longer siding with contrarians just because they're contrarian~~. ~~you don't truly know how bad it is to be a "conservative" or a rust-colored "centrist" until you either~~ have ~~a rust-tinted relative or read Dinesh D'Souza's awful~~ book ~~or especially if you do both. it's much more challenging for an ordinary person to turn away from Trotsky or Kropotkin~~, ~~but the same basic process applies there too~~, ~~you read them and take them totally seriously until you realize what they're saying is awful~~, and ~~if you successfully come to~~ that ~~realization and it matches reality then you have improved your understanding of the world.~~
	~~</li><li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX" data-qid="29,80" value="2980" data-dimension="S2">Bad books are instructive~~

	</li></ol>		</li></ol>
Line 18:		Line 16:
	== Ideology codes ==		== Ideology codes ==

	* ~~(none)~~		* MX / meta-Marxism
			* MX / meta-ontology
			* MZ / Maoism

Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page User:RD/9k/Q29,80 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q29,80: Moving 9k pages to Ontology talk for search purposes

2026-04-27T02:57:52Z

Reversedragon moved page User:RD/9k/Q29,80 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q29,80: Moving 9k pages to Ontology talk for search purposes

← Older revision	Revision as of 02:57, 27 April 2026
(No difference)

Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page User:RD/9k/Q2980 to User:RD/9k/Q29,80: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

2026-01-18T04:34:20Z

Reversedragon moved page User:RD/9k/Q2980 to User:RD/9k/Q29,80: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

← Older revision	Revision as of 04:34, 18 January 2026
(No difference)

Reversedragon: copy markup from 9k/Q19,80 / Item created 2026-01-01T17:26:41H

2026-01-18T04:31:21Z

copy markup from 9k/Q19,80 / Item created 2026-01-01T17:26:41H

New page

== Prototype notes ==
<noinclude>{{HueCSS}}</noinclude><ol class="hue clean">

</li><li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX" data-qid="29,80" value="2980" data-dimension="S2">There is a lot to learn from bad books as long as you have a sufficient foundation in what's correct -> quite honestly, this is the reason that things like MrEnter's cartoon videos (or book, any of the things not about topics like horrible COVID opinions) still don't entirely bother me. learning from low-quality things is absolutely not a bad decision; you'd be doing it a lot on your own work just during the process of writing and first producing bad things and then producing better things.<br/>
the hidden nuance to this in light of meta-Marxism: bad books aren't inherently valuable purely because they "disagree" with something, they're valuable because they show the consequences of being wrong as they apply directly to yourself or others and shock you into no longer siding with contrarians just because they're contrarian. you don't truly know how bad it is to be a "conservative" or a rust-colored "centrist" until you either have a rust-tinted relative or read Dinesh D'Souza's awful book or especially if you do both. it's much more challenging for an ordinary person to turn away from Trotsky or Kropotkin, but the same basic process applies there too, you read them and take them totally seriously until you realize what they're saying is awful, and if you successfully come to that realization and it matches reality then you have improved your understanding of the world.
</li><li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX" data-qid="29,80" value="2980" data-dimension="S2">Bad books are instructive

</li></ol>

== Related ==

== Ideology codes ==

* (none)

[[Category:Next nine thousand (RD)]] {{NextNineThousand|PPPA=Bad books are instructive|User=RD|E=Q29,80}}