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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=29,97\|Q2=2997\|h4-rem=}}Those who control the correct mathematics control the future -> the {{em\|only way}} "nonviolence" successfully solves anything in and of itself. say we want Stalin and Trotsky to coexist nonviolently. there is going to be a correct way for this to happen<ref group="error" name="a"/>, and many incorrect ways which won't result in it happening. if Stalin<ref group="error" name="b"/> solves the correct method for Stalin and Trotsky to coexist as part of one structure, he holds the power. there's nothing Trotsky can say. if Stalin<ref group="error" name="b"/> arranges all the Trotskyites into the correct structures and all of them are content with those structures, then whenever the two or so that aren't commit violence, all the former Trotskyites which are already coexisting nonviolently will stop them and squash their rebellion.<br/>		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=29,97\|Q2=2997\|h4-rem=}}Those who control the correct mathematics control the future -> the {{em\|only way}} "nonviolence" successfully solves anything in and of itself. say we want Stalin and Trotsky to coexist nonviolently. there is going to be a correct way for this to happen<ref group="error" name="a"/>, and many incorrect ways which won't result in it happening. if Stalin<ref group="error" name="b"/> solves the correct method for Stalin and Trotsky to coexist as part of one structure, he holds the power. there's nothing Trotsky can say. if Stalin<ref group="error" name="b"/> arranges all the Trotskyites into the correct structures and all of them are content with those structures, then whenever the two or so that aren't commit violence, all the former Trotskyites which are already coexisting nonviolently will stop them and squash their rebellion.<br/>
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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=29,97\|Q2=2997\|h4-rem=}}Those who control the correct mathematics control the future -> the {{em\|only way}} "nonviolence" successfully solves anything in and of itself. say we want Stalin and Trotsky to coexist nonviolently. there is going to be a correct way for this to happen, and many incorrect ways which won't result in it happening. if Stalin solves the correct method for Stalin and Trotsky to coexist as part of one structure, he holds the power. there's nothing Trotsky can say. if Stalin arranges all the Trotskyites into the correct structures and all of them are content with those structures, then whenever the two or so that aren't commit violence, all the former Trotskyites which are already coexisting nonviolently will stop them and squash their rebellion. the future is retermined. people don't choose what the future is; it's calculated from the multivariable function of people that surround each other put together. the sheer power of retermination is why ~~Existentialism~~ has worked the way it does and been so effective at stopping anything else from coming into being.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=29,97\|Q2=2997\|h4-rem=}}Those who control the correct mathematics control the future -> the {{em\|only way}} "nonviolence" successfully solves anything in and of itself. say we want Stalin and Trotsky to coexist nonviolently. there is going to be a correct way for this to happen<ref group="error" name="a"/>, and many incorrect ways which won't result in it happening. if Stalin<ref group="error" name="b"/> solves the correct method for Stalin and Trotsky to coexist as part of one structure, he holds the power. there's nothing Trotsky can say. if Stalin<ref group="error" name="b"/> arranges all the Trotskyites into the correct structures and all of them are content with those structures, then whenever the two or so that aren't commit violence, all the former Trotskyites which are already coexisting nonviolently will stop them and squash their rebellion.<br/>
			the future is retermined. [[E:Bob Stills chooses who is president\|individual people]] don't choose what the future is; it's calculated from the multivariable function of people that surround each other put together. the sheer power of retermination is why [[EC:9k/RD/Q73\|political-agorism]] has worked the way it does and been so effective at stopping anything else from coming into being.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=\|Q=29,97\|Q2=2997\|h4-rem=}}"there is going to be a correct way for this to happen" — [[EC:9k/RDIntoInsanity\|citation needed]], R.D.!<br/>		{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=\|Q=29,97\|Q2=2997\|h4-rem=}}"there is going to be a correct way for this to happen" — [[EC:9k/RDIntoInsanity\|citation needed]], R.D.!<br/>
	it's still a decent rhetorical tactic though. I like making people confront the immense violence that has to happen to millions of individuals to restore capitalism, and the surprising realization that Communist revolution is absolutely nothing like the United States waging a war in Iraq or Palestine, which despite people being horrified by the concept of 'revolution' they will keep excusing as if in some way it's not as bad.		it's still a decent rhetorical tactic though. I like making people confront the immense violence that has to happen to millions of individuals to restore capitalism, and the surprising realization that Communist revolution is absolutely nothing like the United States waging a war in Iraq or Palestine — which despite people being horrified by the concept of 'revolution' they will keep excusing as if in some way it's not as bad.

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			<ref name="a">Note: this is likely impossible. Fortunately, it isn't the actual claim being made in the proposition.</ref>
			<ref name="b">There is a greater possibility of Trotskyists doing this, only if they catch "Stalinist" blocs of theorists and bureaucrats early. This is why Trotsky went into a frenzy trying to stop "Stalinism" in the space of about 19 years. This wasn't his theory of socialist transition, it was [[E:international permanent revolution\|his theory of completing revolution]] in the first place.</ref>
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	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_mdem" data-qid~~="29,97~~" value~~="2997~~" data~~-~~dimension~~=~~"S2">~~Those who control the correct mathematics control the future -> the <em>only way~~</em>~~ "nonviolence" successfully solves anything in and of itself. say we want Stalin and Trotsky to coexist nonviolently. there is going to be a correct way for this to happen, and many incorrect ways which won't result in it happening. if Stalin solves the correct method for Stalin and Trotsky to coexist as part of one structure, he holds the power. there's nothing Trotsky can say. if Stalin arranges all the Trotskyites into the correct structures and all of them are content with those structures, then whenever the two or so that aren't commit violence, all the former Trotskyites which are already coexisting nonviolently will stop them and squash their rebellion. the future is retermined. people don't choose what the future is; it's calculated from the multivariable function of people that surround each other put together. the sheer power of retermination is why Existentialism has worked the way it does and been so effective at stopping anything else from coming into being.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=\|Q=29,97\|Q2=2997\|h4-rem=}}Those who control the correct mathematics control the future -> the {{em\|only way}} "nonviolence" successfully solves anything in and of itself. say we want Stalin and Trotsky to coexist nonviolently. there is going to be a correct way for this to happen, and many incorrect ways which won't result in it happening. if Stalin solves the correct method for Stalin and Trotsky to coexist as part of one structure, he holds the power. there's nothing Trotsky can say. if Stalin arranges all the Trotskyites into the correct structures and all of them are content with those structures, then whenever the two or so that aren't commit violence, all the former Trotskyites which are already coexisting nonviolently will stop them and squash their rebellion. the future is retermined. people don't choose what the future is; it's calculated from the multivariable function of people that surround each other put together. the sheer power of retermination is why Existentialism has worked the way it does and been so effective at stopping anything else from coming into being.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=\|Q=29,97\|Q2=2997\|h4-rem=}}"there is going to be a correct way for this to happen" — [[EC:9k/RDIntoInsanity\|citation needed]], R.D.!<br/>
			it's still a decent rhetorical tactic though. I like making people confront the immense violence that has to happen to millions of individuals to restore capitalism, and the surprising realization that Communist revolution is absolutely nothing like the United States waging a war in Iraq or Palestine, which despite people being horrified by the concept of 'revolution' they will keep excusing as if in some way it's not as bad.

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</li><li class="field_mdem" data-qid="29,97" value="2997" data-dimension="S2">Those who control the correct mathematics control the future -> the <em>only way</em> "nonviolence" successfully solves anything in and of itself. say we want Stalin and Trotsky to coexist nonviolently. there is going to be a correct way for this to happen, and many incorrect ways which won't result in it happening. if Stalin solves the correct method for Stalin and Trotsky to coexist as part of one structure, he holds the power. there's nothing Trotsky can say. if Stalin arranges all the Trotskyites into the correct structures and all of them are content with those structures, then whenever the two or so that aren't commit violence, all the former Trotskyites which are already coexisting nonviolently will stop them and squash their rebellion. the future is retermined. people don't choose what the future is; it's calculated from the multivariable function of people that surround each other put together. the sheer power of retermination is why Existentialism has worked the way it does and been so effective at stopping anything else from coming into being.

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