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Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q3160 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q31,60: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

2026-08-27T02:50:26Z

Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q3160 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q31,60: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

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Reversedragon: world where Trotskyists surpass North Korea / combination: Trotskyism boasts zero success

2026-08-27T02:49:32Z

world where Trotskyists surpass North Korea / combination: Trotskyism boasts zero success

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	{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779\|h4=Trotskyism is like livermorium}} — it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed / ({{9k\|RD/Q47,78}})		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779\|h4=Trotskyism is like livermorium}} — it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed / ({{9k\|RD/Q47,78}})

			{{li\|I=S1/ML\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=47,85\|Q=4785\|h4 = world where Trotskyists surpass North Korea }} / world where Trotskyists have made as much material progress in the world as North Korea / ({{9k\|RD/Q47,78}})

	{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success (meta-Stalinism) / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply but not state that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success (meta-Stalinism) / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply but not state that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero
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Reversedragon: Trotskyism is like cold fusion

2026-08-26T23:28:29Z

Trotskyism is like cold fusion

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	{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat

			{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=4778\|Q2=4778\|h4 = Trotskyism is like cold fusion }} / ({{9k\|RD/Q47,78}})

			{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779\|h4=Trotskyism is like livermorium}} — it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed / ({{9k\|RD/Q47,78}})

	{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success (meta-Stalinism) / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply but not state that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success (meta-Stalinism) / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply but not state that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero

Reversedragon: Bolshevism in the Soviet Union lasted 39 years

2026-08-26T05:45:29Z

Bolshevism in the Soviet Union lasted 39 years

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	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,61\|Q2=3161}}Bolshevism in the Soviet Union lasted 39 years (1917-1956) / Crimson socialism in the Soviet Union lasted 39 years, beginning with the Russian Revolution in 1917 and ending in around 1956 in the year of Khruschev's secret speech; "crimson socialism" implies the state or regime created by the Russian Revolution and the use of Marxist theories within that state, as opposed to a regime which makes use of Idealist economics (e.g. Yaroshenko), or open bourgeois rule in government (e.g. Deng); this is to imply you may round 39 years to 40 years only when it makes a cleaner fraction -> Trotskyists might be a little upset with this one because of how they don't think Stalin did anything, but I am trying to give the most generous possible figure for how long it took Stalin to actually tear the thing apart.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,62\|Q2=3162}}Dengism in the Soviet Union lasted 38 years (1953-1991) / Strawberry socialism in the Soviet Union lasted 38 years, beginning around 1953 when Stalin died and ending in 1991 when the Soviet Union was dissolved; this is not to imply that "Khruschevism" was inspired by Deng Xiaoping's theories or is literally the same thing, and only to imply that both of them are bureaucratic states that advanced policies that the national bourgeoisie is equally as important as the national proletariat

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.

Reversedragon: mark Stalinism

2026-08-26T05:34:41Z

mark Stalinism

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=F2/ES\|tradition=\|Q=31,50\|Q2=3150}}Dinosaurs became obsolete / Dinosaurs don't work / Dinosaurs are over [sic] / Dinosaurs were effective for millions of years but then they failed to be effective and disappeared (worked millions of years ago; failed to work; went extinct) [sic] -> at face value, funny joke. most non-avian dinosaurs went extinct. but what I really like about this statement is how backhandedly true it is. if you think dinosaurs don't work you've failed to realize that birds are dinosaurs. and if you think Communism doesn't work you may have failed to realize that Deng Xiaoping Thought is still a fringe form of Marxism.		{{li\|start=y\|I=F2/ES\|tradition=\|Q=31,50\|Q2=3150}}Dinosaurs became obsolete / Dinosaurs don't work / Dinosaurs are over [sic] / Dinosaurs were effective for millions of years but then they failed to be effective and disappeared (worked millions of years ago; failed to work; went extinct) [sic] -> at face value, funny joke. most non-avian dinosaurs went extinct. but what I really like about this statement is how backhandedly true it is. if you think dinosaurs don't work you've failed to realize that birds are dinosaurs. <del>and if you think Communism doesn't work you may have failed to realize that Deng Xiaoping Thought is still a fringe form of Marxism.</del>

	{{li\|I=F2/ES\|Q=31,48\|Q2=3148}}Light bulbs don't work -> somewhat literally what was said at the time, and now we all have them.		{{li\|I=F2/ES\|Q=31,48\|Q2=3148}}Light bulbs don't work -> somewhat literally what was said at the time, and now we all have them.
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	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.

	{{li~~\|start=y~~\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto ML\|Q=31,63\|Q2=3163}}Communism is more effective than AGI / Bolshevism is more effective than artificial general intelligence in that the [[E:socialism (Stalin's Marxism)\|Material System of Bolshevism]] has been realized at least once, but machine learning has never physically realized a computer implementing artificial general intelligence		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto ML\|Q=31,63\|Q2=3163}}Communism is more effective than AGI / Bolshevism is more effective than artificial general intelligence in that the [[E:socialism (Stalin's Marxism)\|Material System of Bolshevism]] has been realized at least once, but machine learning has never physically realized a computer implementing artificial general intelligence

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success (meta-Stalinism) / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply but not state that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero

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Reversedragon: Trotskyism boasts zero success

2026-08-26T02:52:37Z

Trotskyism boasts zero success

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	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)

	</li></~~ol>~~		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.

	== Communism ~~and AI ==~~
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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto ML\|Q=31,63\|Q2=3163}}Communism is more effective than AGI / Bolshevism is more effective than artificial general intelligence in that the [[E:socialism (Stalin's Marxism)\|Material System of Bolshevism]] has been realized at least once, but machine learning has never physically realized a computer implementing artificial general intelligence		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto ML\|Q=31,63\|Q2=3163}}Communism is more effective than AGI / Bolshevism is more effective than artificial general intelligence in that the [[E:socialism (Stalin's Marxism)\|Material System of Bolshevism]] has been realized at least once, but machine learning has never physically realized a computer implementing artificial general intelligence

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat

			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero

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Reversedragon: Dinosaurs don't work

2026-08-26T02:41:47Z

Dinosaurs don't work

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			{{li\|start=y\|I=F2/ES\|tradition=\|Q=31,50\|Q2=3150}}Dinosaurs became obsolete / Dinosaurs don't work / Dinosaurs are over [sic] / Dinosaurs were effective for millions of years but then they failed to be effective and disappeared (worked millions of years ago; failed to work; went extinct) [sic] -> at face value, funny joke. most non-avian dinosaurs went extinct. but what I really like about this statement is how backhandedly true it is. if you think dinosaurs don't work you've failed to realize that birds are dinosaurs. and if you think Communism doesn't work you may have failed to realize that Deng Xiaoping Thought is still a fringe form of Marxism.

			{{li\|I=F2/ES\|Q=31,48\|Q2=3148}}Light bulbs don't work -> somewhat literally what was said at the time, and now we all have them.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,49\|Q2=3149}}Bolshevism is effective in the same sense as dinosaurs <!-- / ({{9k\|RD/Q3160}}) --> -> dinosaurs are still very effective, <s>they just look different.</s>

			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)

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Reversedragon: versioning Communist Internationals like software packages

2026-08-26T02:28:26Z

versioning Communist Internationals like software packages

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	</li></ol~~> --~~>		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/IV/MX\|Q=4,1,1,1\|Q2=4111\|h4= versioning Communist Internationals like software packages }} / ({{9k\|RD/Q4,1,1,1}}) -> I came up with this idea not-too-seriously but it's actually surprisingly close to the kind of thing that really is useful. if you take all the Marxist movements that have ever happened and line them up by which ones they came out of and whether they got closer to or farther from success... well, you start understanding exactly where to look to stop movements from breaking down.<br/>
			it's bizarrely like planning a tool-assisted speedrun or something. you have a particular "obstacle course" to get through which always has a few things about it that are similar, and you find the errors, and you figure out a more consistent route through.

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Reversedragon: Communism is more effective than AGI

2026-08-26T02:27:30Z

Communism is more effective than AGI

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Reversedragon: copy markup from Q31,60

2026-08-23T23:46:46Z

copy markup from Q31,60

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{{li|start=y|I=M3/MX|tradition=MX, IV|Q=31,60|Q2=3160}}At what moment does Communism "stop working"?

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	{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat

			{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=4778\|Q2=4778\|h4 = Trotskyism is like cold fusion }} / ({{9k\|RD/Q47,78}})

			{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779\|h4=Trotskyism is like livermorium}} — it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed / ({{9k\|RD/Q47,78}})

	{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success (meta-Stalinism) / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply but not state that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success (meta-Stalinism) / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply but not state that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero

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	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,61\|Q2=3161}}Bolshevism in the Soviet Union lasted 39 years (1917-1956) / Crimson socialism in the Soviet Union lasted 39 years, beginning with the Russian Revolution in 1917 and ending in around 1956 in the year of Khruschev's secret speech; "crimson socialism" implies the state or regime created by the Russian Revolution and the use of Marxist theories within that state, as opposed to a regime which makes use of Idealist economics (e.g. Yaroshenko), or open bourgeois rule in government (e.g. Deng); this is to imply you may round 39 years to 40 years only when it makes a cleaner fraction -> Trotskyists might be a little upset with this one because of how they don't think Stalin did anything, but I am trying to give the most generous possible figure for how long it took Stalin to actually tear the thing apart.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,62\|Q2=3162}}Dengism in the Soviet Union lasted 38 years (1953-1991) / Strawberry socialism in the Soviet Union lasted 38 years, beginning around 1953 when Stalin died and ending in 1991 when the Soviet Union was dissolved; this is not to imply that "Khruschevism" was inspired by Deng Xiaoping's theories or is literally the same thing, and only to imply that both of them are bureaucratic states that advanced policies that the national bourgeoisie is equally as important as the national proletariat

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=F2/ES\|tradition=\|Q=31,50\|Q2=3150}}Dinosaurs became obsolete / Dinosaurs don't work / Dinosaurs are over [sic] / Dinosaurs were effective for millions of years but then they failed to be effective and disappeared (worked millions of years ago; failed to work; went extinct) [sic] -> at face value, funny joke. most non-avian dinosaurs went extinct. but what I really like about this statement is how backhandedly true it is. if you think dinosaurs don't work you've failed to realize that birds are dinosaurs. and if you think Communism doesn't work you may have failed to realize that Deng Xiaoping Thought is still a fringe form of Marxism.		{{li\|start=y\|I=F2/ES\|tradition=\|Q=31,50\|Q2=3150}}Dinosaurs became obsolete / Dinosaurs don't work / Dinosaurs are over [sic] / Dinosaurs were effective for millions of years but then they failed to be effective and disappeared (worked millions of years ago; failed to work; went extinct) [sic] -> at face value, funny joke. most non-avian dinosaurs went extinct. but what I really like about this statement is how backhandedly true it is. if you think dinosaurs don't work you've failed to realize that birds are dinosaurs. <del>and if you think Communism doesn't work you may have failed to realize that Deng Xiaoping Thought is still a fringe form of Marxism.</del>

	{{li\|I=F2/ES\|Q=31,48\|Q2=3148}}Light bulbs don't work -> somewhat literally what was said at the time, and now we all have them.		{{li\|I=F2/ES\|Q=31,48\|Q2=3148}}Light bulbs don't work -> somewhat literally what was said at the time, and now we all have them.
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	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,47\|Q2=3147}}The effectiveness of Communism can be measured in how many years it lives / law of fractions (meta-Marxist conjecture)

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|Q=31,51\|Q2=3151}}Pokémon is two-thirds as effective as Communism / Pokémon is half as effective as Communism -> follows from "Google was half as effective as Communism". Pokémon has been around 29 years. which is pretty impressive, really. but strictly speaking you can't yet say it works as well as Communism.

	{{li~~\|start=y~~\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto ML\|Q=31,63\|Q2=3163}}Communism is more effective than AGI / Bolshevism is more effective than artificial general intelligence in that the [[E:socialism (Stalin's Marxism)\|Material System of Bolshevism]] has been realized at least once, but machine learning has never physically realized a computer implementing artificial general intelligence		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ML\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto ML\|Q=31,63\|Q2=3163}}Communism is more effective than AGI / Bolshevism is more effective than artificial general intelligence in that the [[E:socialism (Stalin's Marxism)\|Material System of Bolshevism]] has been realized at least once, but machine learning has never physically realized a computer implementing artificial general intelligence

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV\|Q=31,64\|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero		{{li\|I=S2/ML\|tradition=ML onto IV, MX onto ML onto IV\|Q=31,44\|Q2=31,44}}Trotskyism boasts zero success (meta-Stalinism) / Trotskyism boasts 0% success / Whether Trotskyism is effective and functions as described can be judged by how many years Trotskyists maintain a real-world workers' state or stateless orange civilization; this is to imply but not state that as of 1991 the effectiveness of Trotskyism was zero, and as of 2026 the effectiveness of Trotskyism is zero

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