Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q42,36 - Revision history

Reversedragon: dead souls going to Helvetica

2026-09-06T23:20:22Z

dead souls going to Helvetica

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	{{li\|I=S2/MN\|start=y\|Q=618}}Marx stopped talking about alienation the moment he started talking about the structure of capitalism / ({{9k\|RD/Q21,29}}) -> that's a rather damning find. really doesn't make Mark Fisher look good, [[EC:9k/RD/Q42,36 stale rat bread\|or Žižek]] with his apparent orange anarchism		{{li\|I=S2/MN\|start=y\|Q=618}}Marx stopped talking about alienation the moment he started talking about the structure of capitalism / ({{9k\|RD/Q21,29}}) -> that's a rather damning find. really doesn't make Mark Fisher look good, [[EC:9k/RD/Q42,36 stale rat bread\|or Žižek]] with his apparent orange anarchism

			{{li\|I=S1/Fy\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}dead souls going to Helvetica ({{book\|Helvetica}}) -> there is some kind of joke to be made here between {{book\|Helvetica}}, hell, and "Stalinist fonts", but I'm not sure what it is.

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Reversedragon: Marx stopped talking about alienation the moment he started talking about the structure of capitalism

2026-09-06T21:59:49Z

Marx stopped talking about alienation the moment he started talking about the structure of capitalism

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			{{li\|I=S2/MN\|start=y\|Q=618}}Marx stopped talking about alienation the moment he started talking about the structure of capitalism / ({{9k\|RD/Q21,29}}) -> that's a rather damning find. really doesn't make Mark Fisher look good, [[EC:9k/RD/Q42,36 stale rat bread\|or Žižek]] with his apparent orange anarchism

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Reversedragon: the boring Bread store

2026-09-06T21:19:30Z

the boring Bread store

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	<li ~~class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="42,36~~" value~~="4236~~" data-dimension="S">~~[[E:Q4236\|I'm eating stale rat bread and I can't take it any more]] / I'm eating the stale rat bread and I can't {{censor\|fucking}} take it any more [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cET8bJ2xlUA&t=237s] -> when somebody attempts to criticize corporations for having made bad "culture" that is bad precisely because it intrudes on a person's individual Lived Experience and not because the structure and function of the corporation has any effect on the larger society such as the health of workers or impact on the internal functioning of socially-linked communities that decide to tie themselves to the product. Žižek is guilty of this: he makes strange claims that Lenin and Stalin couldn't create good "culture", which make no sense <em>until</em> you realize he is trying to make a Marxism that has nothing to do with workers and is all about the Lived Experience of existing in the midst of a bunch of bad products — or when it stoops to being about workers is about bad working conditions being <em>a bad individualized Lived Experience</em>. the Zinovievist accusation of bad "culture" is strange. it's like wrong culture is about the consumer's Lived Experience, but the problems with corporations essentially become about corporations Freely Willing to do the wrong thing when they could have Freely Decided to do better. some chunks of Existentialists seem to conceptualize literally every movement as democulture including the function of unions and so-called ""corporate greed"". they don't even believe in Menshevism and political parties. they think all society is just made of good-idea orthodoxies stomping bad people and forcing them to behave better, squashing bad people's otherwise sacred Lived Experiences and forcing them to exist better when they weren't existing good.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/IV/LR\|tradition=Zv, Aa, LR\|Q=42,36\|Q2=4236}}[[E:Q4236\|I'm eating stale rat bread and I can't take it any more]] / I'm eating the stale rat bread and I can't {{censor\|fucking}} take it any more [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cET8bJ2xlUA&t=237s] -> when somebody attempts to criticize corporations for having made bad "culture" that is bad precisely because it intrudes on a person's individual Lived Experience and not because the structure and function of the corporation has any effect on the larger society such as the health of workers or impact on the internal functioning of socially-linked communities that decide to tie themselves to the product. Žižek is guilty of this: he makes strange claims that Lenin and Stalin couldn't create good "culture", which make no sense <em>until</em> you realize he is trying to make a Marxism that has nothing to do with workers and is all about the Lived Experience of existing in the midst of a bunch of bad products — or when it stoops to being about workers is about bad working conditions being <em>a bad individualized Lived Experience</em>. the Zinovievist accusation of bad "culture" is strange. it's like wrong culture is about the consumer's Lived Experience, but the problems with corporations essentially become about corporations Freely Willing to do the wrong thing when they could have Freely Decided to do better. some chunks of Existentialists seem to conceptualize literally every movement as democulture including the function of unions and so-called ""corporate greed"". they don't even believe in Menshevism and political parties. they think all society is just made of good-idea orthodoxies stomping bad people and forcing them to behave better, squashing bad people's otherwise sacred Lived Experiences and forcing them to exist better when they weren't existing good.

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			== Corporate Stalinist culture ==
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			{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/LR\|tradition=LR\|Q=42,28\|Q2=4228}}the boring Bread store {{YouTube\|C_wWvpXZTTg}} -> Dennis Prager's dumb, funny way of slamming state businesses. he says that private businesses don't necessarily not exist but then he gets upset about "boring" established state businesses anyway — kind of contradictory. if tiny businesses still exist why are the boring big ones even a problem to you? reading what he says generously, he might know that Marx implies a future historical period when the tiny ones go away to leave only the big ones as something a bit like republicanized micro-states inside nations and local-states and counties because people just don't need to do those things as businesses any more, and maybe do them for no money if they are really important, the way people just kind of put up educational videos on YouTube instead of getting hired to produce them.

			{{li\|I=S1/ES\|tradition=\|Q=42,29\|Q2=4229\|rem=4236 stale rat bread}}fonts as culture of The Government [https://www.comradegallery.com/journal/fonts-typography-and-freedom-ussr] / Stalinist font / font of The Totalitarian State -> I have heard this trope all my life and I am so sick of it. what is the big deal with "Stalinist fonts" and what is so bad about them. fonts standardize all the time without Stalin, considering how there is this one font on signs that everyone knows, I think it's Helvetica. this concept is so stupid.

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Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q4236 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q42,36: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

2026-09-06T21:14:50Z

Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q4236 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q42,36: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

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Reversedragon: copy markup from Q42,36

2026-09-06T21:14:32Z

copy markup from Q42,36

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<li class="field_trotsky" data-qid="42,36" value="4236" data-dimension="S">[[E:Q4236|I'm eating stale rat bread and I can't take it any more]] / I'm eating the stale rat bread and I can't {{censor|fucking}} take it any more [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cET8bJ2xlUA&t=237s] -> when somebody attempts to criticize corporations for having made bad "culture" that is bad precisely because it intrudes on a person's individual Lived Experience and not because the structure and function of the corporation has any effect on the larger society such as the health of workers or impact on the internal functioning of socially-linked communities that decide to tie themselves to the product. Žižek is guilty of this: he makes strange claims that Lenin and Stalin couldn't create good "culture", which make no sense <em>until</em> you realize he is trying to make a Marxism that has nothing to do with workers and is all about the Lived Experience of existing in the midst of a bunch of bad products — or when it stoops to being about workers is about bad working conditions being <em>a bad individualized Lived Experience</em>. the Zinovievist accusation of bad "culture" is strange. it's like wrong culture is about the consumer's Lived Experience, but the problems with corporations essentially become about corporations Freely Willing to do the wrong thing when they could have Freely Decided to do better. some chunks of Existentialists seem to conceptualize literally every movement as democulture including the function of unions and so-called ""corporate greed"". they don't even believe in Menshevism and political parties. they think all society is just made of good-idea orthodoxies stomping bad people and forcing them to behave better, squashing bad people's otherwise sacred Lived Experiences and forcing them to exist better when they weren't existing good.

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