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	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_exstruct" data-remark~~=~~"as surface observation" value~~="4491~~" data-dimension~~=~~"S2">~~Every incorrect progressivism produces irony / Every incorrect progressive theory produces irony -> it's easy to notice this but not common to notice why it happens. the point of progressive theories is generally exactly to prevent the "ironic" things, so their failure naturally produces irony.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto ES\|Q=44,91\|Q2=4491\|h4 = Faulty progressivisms produce irony }} / Every incorrect progressivism produces irony / Every incorrect progressive theory produces irony -> it's easy to notice this but not common to notice why it happens. the point of progressive theories is generally exactly to prevent the "ironic" things, so their failure naturally produces irony.

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	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_mdem" value~~="4490~~" data-dimension~~=~~"M3">~~Why is Trotskyism so ironic? / Why is Trotskyism the biggest irony? / Trotskyism is one of the most ironic things ever (proposition phrasing) -> it always stands out as weird that Trotskyism intends to unify everybody in all countries but it does almost the polar opposite of that, turning countries against each other and dividing people inside countries. why none of them ever notice this and stop and say, "oh wait, we're dividing people" would seem like the biggest mystery. you'd think that after the Soviet Union dissolved and generic resistances were indistinguishable from the Trotskyite conspiracy even if not the same, they would have stopped and thought about it then. but it seems like they always double down and they never do. observations: A) Trotskyists genuinely believe in Trotskyism B) Trotskyism is intended to stop exactly the thing it doesn't stop C) Trotskyism has not succeeded D) Trotskyism is ironic simply because it failed.		{{li\|start=y\|I=M3/MX\|tradition=MX onto ES\|Q=44,90\|Q2=4490\|h4 = Why is Trotskyism so ironic? }} / Why is Trotskyism the biggest irony? / Trotskyism is one of the most ironic things ever (proposition phrasing) -> it always stands out as weird that Trotskyism intends to unify everybody in all countries but it does almost the polar opposite of that, turning countries against each other and dividing people inside countries. why none of them ever notice this and stop and say, "oh wait, we're dividing people" would seem like the biggest mystery. you'd think that after the Soviet Union dissolved and generic resistances were indistinguishable from the Trotskyite conspiracy even if not the same, they would have stopped and thought about it then. but it seems like they always double down and they never do. observations: A) Trotskyists genuinely believe in Trotskyism B) Trotskyism is intended to stop exactly the thing it doesn't stop C) Trotskyism has not succeeded D) Trotskyism is ironic simply because it failed.

	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_mdem" value~~="4492~~" data-dimension~~=~~"S2">~~Molecular Marxisms are not ironic / <em>If~~</em>~~ we first assume molecular Marxisms are possible, <em>then~~</em>~~ they are identified by having theories that correctly predict reality to some extent, charting out the most important details of specific realistic outcomes which describe their success state, and thus do not produce irony / Irony is the failure to predict reality to the point outcomes are logically consistent (in the context of meta-Marxism and hypothetical molecular Marxisms) / Correct predictions are more important than specific theoretical content to molecular Marxisms (contrast with Trotskyism, where theoretical content is almost maximally important)		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=44,92\|Q2=4492\|h4 = Molecular Marxisms are not ironic }} / {{em\|If}} we first assume molecular Marxisms are possible, {{em\|then}} they are identified by having theories that correctly predict reality to some extent, charting out the most important details of specific realistic outcomes which describe their success state, and thus do not produce irony / Irony is the failure to predict reality to the point outcomes are logically consistent (in the context of meta-Marxism and hypothetical molecular Marxisms) / Correct predictions are more important than specific theoretical content to molecular Marxisms (contrast with Trotskyism, where theoretical content is almost maximally important)

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</li><li class="field_exstruct" data-remark="as surface observation" value="4491" data-dimension="S2">Every incorrect progressivism produces irony / Every incorrect progressive theory produces irony -> it's easy to notice this but not common to notice why it happens. the point of progressive theories is generally exactly to prevent the "ironic" things, so their failure naturally produces irony.

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</li><li class="field_mdem" value="4490" data-dimension="M3">Why is Trotskyism so ironic? / Why is Trotskyism the biggest irony? / Trotskyism is one of the most ironic things ever (proposition phrasing) -> it always stands out as weird that Trotskyism intends to unify everybody in all countries but it does almost the polar opposite of that, turning countries against each other and dividing people inside countries. why none of them ever notice this and stop and say, "oh wait, we're dividing people" would seem like the biggest mystery. you'd think that after the Soviet Union dissolved and generic resistances were indistinguishable from the Trotskyite conspiracy even if not the same, they would have stopped and thought about it then. but it seems like they always double down and they never do. observations: A) Trotskyists genuinely believe in Trotskyism B) Trotskyism is intended to stop exactly the thing it doesn't stop C) Trotskyism has not succeeded D) Trotskyism is ironic simply because it failed.

</li><li class="field_mdem" value="4492" data-dimension="S2">Molecular Marxisms are not ironic / <em>If</em> we first assume molecular Marxisms are possible, <em>then</em> they are identified by having theories that correctly predict reality to some extent, charting out the most important details of specific realistic outcomes which describe their success state, and thus do not produce irony / Irony is the failure to predict reality to the point outcomes are logically consistent (in the context of meta-Marxism and hypothetical molecular Marxisms) / Correct predictions are more important than specific theoretical content to molecular Marxisms (contrast with Trotskyism, where theoretical content is almost maximally important)

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