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Reversedragon: thing-in-itself / type specimen / using Wikiprime senses as if they were Characteristics

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thing-in-itself / type specimen / using Wikiprime senses as if they were Characteristics

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	{{Hue\|style=HueCSS\|ff1=DFy}}		{{Hue\|style=HueCSS\|ff1=DFy}}

	<li {{~~IS1~~/IK~~/class~~}} ~~data~~-~~qid~~="50,41~~" value~~="5041~~">noumenon~~ (~~Kant~~)		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/IK\|Q=50,41\|Q2=5041}}thing-in-itself; {{i\|lang=de\|Ding an sich}} (Kant) / noumenon (Kant)

			{{li\|I=F1/IK\|Q=50,41\|Q2=5041}}thing-in-itself -> I want to say that explanations of reality known to be incorrect should be F Items when they are in a swatch that suggests they're taking place in the real world, while they can be S Items when they are in a swatch that suggests they're taking place in a fictional world where they could conceivably make sense.

			{{li\|I=S1/IK/Fy\|Q=50,41\|Q2=5041}}thing-in-itself (fiction) / {{QSense\|50\|41\|S=FF}}

	{{endHue}}		{{endHue}}

	== Related ==		== Related ==
	~~<!--~~
	{{Hue\|ff1=DFy}}		{{Hue\|ff1=DFy}}

	{{li\|start=y\|I=Z1/~~MLP~~\|Q=10,2,71\|Q2=~~10271~~}}		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MW\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}type specimen ({{int:sitename}}) <!-- LithoGraphica --> / {{QSense\|618\|S=YX}}

			{{li\|I=S1/MW\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}quod-vide entry ({{int:sitename}}) / {{QSense\|618\|S=QV}} , {{QSense\|618\|S=QU}} , {{QSense\|618\|S=QW}} , {{QSense\|618\|S=QY}} -> those all look good. I feel like QX and QZ should be used for something more significant though I don't know what<br/>
			for connecting Kantianism to Kant... maybe QK or QA? motif to author is a similar relationship to {{i\|quod vide}} entries

	{{~~endHue~~}} -->		{{li\|I=S1/MW\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}using Wikiprime senses as if they were Characteristics / using Hue sense-labels as if they were Properties; as predicate statements -> I just realized that the more standard Sense labels exist, the more they just turn into a different way to do Wikibase Properties. you can either have "thing-in-itself - described by author - Kant" or "thing-in-itself - sense 'most obvious author' - Kant". there are somewhere from 600 to 1300 distinct relations possible that way (26 × 52).<br/>
			it only works for Item to Item relations and not for putting arbitrary data in Characteristics, with the one exception being arbitrary aliases used to refer to something which can be multilingual strings.

			{{endHue}}

	== {{int:hue-prototype-trads-fields-or-genres}} == <!-- en: Ideologies or fields -->		== {{int:hue-prototype-trads-fields-or-genres}} == <!-- en: Ideologies or fields -->
	{{Hue\|ff1=DFy}}		{{Hue\|ff1=DFy}}
	{{li \|start=y		{{li \|start=y
	\|I=Z1/IK\|Q=50,99\|Q2=5099\|S=}}{{TTS\|IK\|I.K.}} / Kant		\|I=Z1/IK\|Q=50,99\|Q2=5099\|S=QK}}{{TTS\|IK\|I.K.}} / Kant
	{{endHue}}		{{endHue}}

	== Wavebuilder combinations ==		== Wavebuilder combinations ==
	~~<dl class~~=~~"wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">~~		{{WL\|ff1=DFy}}

	{{WaveBuild\| {{E:Q618/ES\|??}} \| -- \| -- }} <!-- en: Along With, Produces ?? ?? -->		{{WaveBuild\| {{E:Q618/ES\|??}} \| -- \| -- }} <!-- en: Along With, Produces ?? ?? -->

	~~</dl>~~		{{endWL}}
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	== Subpages or related scraps ==		== Subpages or related scraps ==
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	* [[EC:9k/RD/Q618/...]]		* [[EC:9k/RD/Q618/...]]

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	[[Category:Next nine thousand (RD)]] <!-- page ends here. TTS-unfriendly numbers incoming		[[Category:Next nine thousand (RD)]] <!-- page ends here. TTS-unfriendly numbers incoming
	redirects or titles: [[Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q5041]]		redirects or titles: [[Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q5041]]
	duplication hint: copy markup from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN\|Q50,41]]		duplication hint: copy markup from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN\|Q50,41]] -->

	~~old Hue markup:~~
	~~<ol class="hue clean {{int:hue-ixn-classname-DFy}}"> inactive: {{int:hue-ixn-classname-ML}}~~
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Reversedragon: copy markup from Q56,54

2026-10-29T04:01:16Z

copy markup from Q56,54

New page

{{NextNineThousand|PPPA=thing in itself (Kant)|E=Q50,41|User=RD|Contents=y}}
== Main entry ==
{{Hue|style=HueCSS|ff1=DFy}}

<li {{IS1/IK/class}} data-qid="50,41" value="5041">noumenon (Kant)

{{endHue}}

== Related ==


== {{int:hue-prototype-trads-fields-or-genres}} == 
{{Hue|ff1=DFy}}
{{li |start=y
|I=Z1/IK|Q=50,99|Q2=5099|S=}}{{TTS|IK|I.K.}} / Kant
{{endHue}}

== Wavebuilder combinations ==
<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">

{{WaveBuild| {{E:Q618/ES|??}} | -- | -- }} 

</dl>

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Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q50,41 - Revision history

Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q5041 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q50,41: Alias comma number / interchangeable Way: order

Reversedragon: thing-in-itself / type specimen / using Wikiprime senses as if they were Characteristics

Reversedragon: copy markup from Q56,54