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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;copy markup from &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Special:PermanentLink/46217&quot; title=&quot;Special:PermanentLink/46217&quot;&gt;Q56,94&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{NextNineThousand|PPPA=all because of media|E=Q618|User=RD|Contents=y}}&lt;br /&gt;
== Main entry ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{li|start=y|I=F2/W|tradition=LGBT, unknown|Q=618|Q2=618}}Every single movement in the United States succeeded because of media {{YouTube|RTnzoEdPJ7Q}}  -&amp;gt;  wow! this is {{em|some}} particular philosophy summarized concisely.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
this is exactly backwards. this video lays out a somewhat clear path that goes protests, news stories, media, hiring into Disney, media. but what Gramsci originally said actually goes the other direction. what he said — or at least the common-sense reading of what he said after you&amp;#039;re aware of Stalin — simply goes: getting into corporations, getting into Disney, media. there&amp;#039;s no piece-by-piece build-up of previous steps, there&amp;#039;s just one big step of connecting gay people and workers together and then there&amp;#039;s media and it either works and ends with further shifts of public opinion or it doesn&amp;#039;t even start.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
and it may be a little hypocritical of me to say that when I am having a really bad month where I am frustrated with Trotskyism and no longer understand if I understand how Marxism works any more, but listen, that&amp;#039;s me giving a [[E:Q92|meta-Materialist]] overview of what Gramscianism says inside and how it works, not me claiming that it definitely works well. I can do meta-Marxism / meta-Materialism without believing in anything or supporting anything, I just have to understand how groups of people operate.&lt;br /&gt;
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    |I=Z1/Fy|Q=56,99|Q2=5699}}{{TTS|MLP|M.L.P.}} / {{cite|My Little Pony}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{li|I=Z1/Fy|Q=57,00|Q2=5700}}{{TTS|MLP|M.L.P. G4}} / {{cite|My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic}}&lt;br /&gt;
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    |I=S1/MX|Q=92|Q2=92}}{{TTS|MX|M.X.}} / meta-Marxism&lt;br /&gt;
{{li|I=Z1/IV|Q=41,04|Q2=4104}}{{TTS|IV|Fourth}} / Trotskyism --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{WaveBuild| {{E:Q618/W|??}} | -- | -- }}  &amp;lt;!-- en: Along With, Produces  ??  ?? --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Nickels ===&lt;br /&gt;
* {{nickel/silent}} [[Research talk:5c/|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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