Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q618-PeriodicTableOfRules - Revision history

Reversedragon: fields

2026-05-25T05:37:30Z

fields

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	{{li\|start=y~~\|I=S1/ES\|Q=618}}metallic rule / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])~~		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/ES\|Q=618}}metallic rules and prisoner's dilemma -> it's super easy for people to present metallic rules as the false solution to this but the problem is they don't actually give any control over the other person's decisions, which is to say whether the other person will follow the metallic rules in the first place. the prisoner's dilemma is still in place.

	~~{{li~~\|I=S1/ES\|Q=618}}metallic rules and prisoner's dilemma -> it's super easy for people to present metallic rules as the false solution to this but the problem is they don't actually give any control over the other person's decisions, which is to say whether the other person will follow the metallic rules in the first place. the prisoner's dilemma is still in place.

	{{li\|I=Z1/STM\|Q=13,032\|Q2=13032}}germanium -> found in "silver, lead, and copper ores". this weirdly suggests the content of a possible germanium rule already. silver rule: golden inverse. copper rule: either defined as iron rule or platinum rule.<br/>		{{li\|I=Z1/STM\|Q=13,032\|Q2=13032}}germanium -> found in "silver, lead, and copper ores". this weirdly suggests the content of a possible germanium rule already. silver rule: golden inverse. copper rule: either defined as iron rule or platinum rule.<br/>
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	the silver rule is the conceptual opposite of the iron rule. maybe... this is the "bad" counterpart to the platinum rule? Do unto others whatever they expect you to do to them. man, that's one of the worst ones, that's a candidate for a halogen rule. I feel like germanium should be something at least somewhat interesting, like silicon.		the silver rule is the conceptual opposite of the iron rule. maybe... this is the "bad" counterpart to the platinum rule? Do unto others whatever they expect you to do to them. man, that's one of the worst ones, that's a candidate for a halogen rule. I feel like germanium should be something at least somewhat interesting, like silicon.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779}}Trotskyism is like livermorium: it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed		{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779\|h4= Trotskyism is like livermorium }} — it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed / ({{9k\|RD/Q47,78}})

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	== Ideologies or fields ==		== Ideologies or fields ==
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	{{~~HueNumber~~\|~~Q3300~~}} -~~- en~~: A / ~~anarchism~~ --		\|I=S1/MX \|Q=86\|Q2=86}}{{TTS\|MX\|meta-}} / [[EC:9k/RD/Q86\|existential materialism]]
	</~~ol>~~		{{li\|I=Z1/PT \|Q=618\|Q2=618}}PT / fundamentalist Christianity
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			{{li\|I=S1/ES \|Q=618\|Q2=618}}{{TTS\|ES\|E-S}} / ethics, Liberal-republican or anarchist
	* (none)		{{li\|I=S1/ES \|Q=618\|Q2=618}}{{TTS\|ES\|E-S}} / bourgeois ideologies
			{{li\|I=Z1/LR \|Q=618\|Q2=618}}LR / Liberal-republicanism
			{{li\|I=S1/W \|Q=618\|Q2=618}}{{TTS\|W\|West}} / Gramscianism
			{{li\|I=Z1/DX \|Q=618\|Q2=618}}DX / Deng Xiaoping Thought
			{{li\|I=S1/A \|Q=618\|Q2=618}}A / anarchism
			{{li\|I=Z1/IV \|Q=41,04\|Q2=4104}}{{TTS\|IV\|Fourth}} / Trotskyism
			{{li\|I=Z1/STM\|Q=41,04\|Q2=4104}}{{TTS\|STM\|Stem}} / chemistry
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Reversedragon: neodymium rule - created 2026-05-24T11:06:10H

2026-05-24T22:22:00Z

neodymium rule - created 2026-05-24T11:06:10H

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}~~nickel rule~~ / Anything done once accumulates / Anything that happens once accumulates / All Ideals reach extremes / Every Ideal reaches its extreme / Every Ideal reaches its extreme in some person or situation if it is practiced at all / Murphy's law (generic) / Anything not done once does not accumulate (nickel inverse) / Every Ideal not practiced does not reach its extreme (nickel inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])<br/>		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618\|h4= nickel rule }} / Anything done once accumulates / Anything that happens once accumulates / All Ideals reach extremes / Every Ideal reaches its extreme / Every Ideal reaches its extreme in some person or situation if it is practiced at all / Murphy's law (generic) / Anything not done once does not accumulate (nickel inverse) / Every Ideal not practiced does not reach its extreme (nickel inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])<br/>
	nickel rule + ?? = golden rule.		nickel rule + ?? = golden rule.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}~~cobalt rule~~ / Anything chosen once accumulates / All choices reach extremes / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618\|h4= cobalt rule }} / Anything chosen once accumulates / All choices reach extremes / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])

			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618\|h4= neodymium rule }} / Social costs flip over / Social contracts are double-edged / Impose cultural standards onto others only when you are willing to endure periods of those standards having no effect and completely different and objectionable standards actually and constantly being imposed onto you / Prescribe mandatory cultural standards on others, and they will prescribe mandatory cultural standards on you /<br/>
			Whenever anyone attempts to assert that other people are subject to a particular moral prescription, those two groups of people that may have been separate before snap together like a somewhat strong magnet, and from then on, they share a double-edged social contract in which either pole of the relationship can assert any set of moral standards at any level of brutality and any "standards of what is right" or "social costs" levied from one pole to the other will be equally valid coming from either pole -><br/>
			this one appeared in {{book\|MDem}} 4.3 drafts but I was having a really hard time articulating it through the right language and the right framework until now. I fumbled around with 'comparing Liberal republics to Stalin's government' and it came out really muddy, but what I was really getting at was the concept that the processes of any republic actually start at very small scales nearly as small as the golden rule. this wiki and the concept of taking familiar or popular concepts and drawing graph connections from them to other things has helped immensely in terms of slowly editing the book and making it actually comprehensible outside my head

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Reversedragon: metallic rule rules

2026-05-11T09:37:30Z

metallic rule rules

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-{{li|start=y|I=S2/MX/IV|tradition=MX onto IV|Q=618|Q2=618}}livermorium rule / Judge the moral valence of ideologies that have not been realized by their most likely results if they ever {{em|had been}} been realized into a stable state / Do not do what it would be {{em|possible}} that others should not do unto you  ->  this is verging on deontology but it doesn't quite go there because it doesn't focus on intended results specifically and instead tries to sketch out a plausible real situation so the consequences can be judged through the range of various forms of ethics that exist for real situations.
+{{li|start=y|I=S2/MX/IV|tradition=MX onto IV|Q=618|Q2=618}}livermorium rule / Judge the moral valence of ideologies that have not been realized by their best possible result that is {{em|plausible}} to happen if they ever {{em|had been}} realized into a stable historical period / Promote or attempt what may be possible when others should do it if it is possible / Do not promote what may be possible when others should not do it if it is possible (livermorium inverse) / Do not do what it would be {{em|possible}} that others should not do unto you  ->  this is verging on deontology but it doesn't quite go there because it doesn't focus on {{em|desired}} results specifically and instead tries to sketch out a plausible real situation so the consequences can be judged through the range of various forms of ethics that exist for real situations.
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 {{li|I=S2/MX/ES|Q=618}}lanthanum rule / {{abbr|Patronize|title=Be a customer to}} others as yourself / Buy unto others as you would have others buy unto you / Encourage others to consume freshly-created products at maximum retail price in order to socialize and be part of society, and others will encourage people to buy your freshly-created products or support your freshly-created tiny business territory  ->  the metallic rule that creates consumerism {{i|per se}} / [[EC:9k/RD/Q618-MysteryBoxConsumerism|material consumerism]].<br/>
 named in reference to lanthanum being used in the production of new cell phones every few years to smooth out screens.
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Reversedragon: Patronize others as yourself (lanthanum rule)

2026-05-11T03:11:48Z

Patronize others as yourself (lanthanum rule)

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	{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618\|h4= americium rule }} / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Do not what will filter down (americium inverse) / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618\|h4= americium rule }} / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Do not what will filter down (americium inverse) / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= hydrogen rule }} / Do unto other countries as other countries should do unto you / Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) -> countries are sometimes but not always separated by water, as with Japan, the Korean peninsula, or England and France. water contains hydrogen ions.		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= hydrogen rule }} / Do unto other countries as other countries should do unto you / Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) -> countries are sometimes but not always separated by water, as with Japan, the Korean peninsula, or England and France. water contains hydrogen ions.<br/>
			the PRC actually follows this rule day-to-day while the United States doesn't. it's actually a rather big idea in Deng Xiaoping Thought to try to get other countries to stop doing what they're doing through non-aggression.

	{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= palladium rule }} / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= palladium rule }} / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])
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	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}cobalt rule / Anything chosen once accumulates / All choices reach extremes / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}cobalt rule / Anything chosen once accumulates / All choices reach extremes / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}livermorium rule / Judge the moral valence of ideologies that have not been realized by their most likely results if they ever {{em\|had been}} been realized into a stable state / Do not do what it would be {{em\|possible}} that others should not do unto you -> this is verging on deontology but it doesn't quite go there because it doesn't focus on intended results specifically and instead tries to sketch out a plausible real situation so the consequences can be judged through the range of various forms of ethics that exist for real situations.		</li></ol>

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			{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}livermorium rule / Judge the moral valence of ideologies that have not been realized by their most likely results if they ever {{em\|had been}} been realized into a stable state / Do not do what it would be {{em\|possible}} that others should not do unto you -> this is verging on deontology but it doesn't quite go there because it doesn't focus on intended results specifically and instead tries to sketch out a plausible real situation so the consequences can be judged through the range of various forms of ethics that exist for real situations.

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	{{li\|I=S2/ES/A\|Q=36,67\|Q2=36,67}}xenon rule / Do what others would "unto" / Produce the actions of how others would like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Act as others would / Do not what others would not "unto" (xenon inverse) / Do not unto others what they would not decide / Do not what others would not normally-see-happen-as-a-spontaneous-event-unto-them / Do not bring on others a way they would not like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Do not act as others would not act in your place / Nothing should be done unless others consider it wonderful / Nothing should be done unless everyone considers it wonderful / ([[User:RD/9k/Q36,67\|Q36,67]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES/A\|Q=36,67\|Q2=36,67}}xenon rule / Do what others would "unto" / Produce the actions of how others would like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Act as others would / Do not what others would not "unto" (xenon inverse) / Do not unto others what they would not decide / Do not what others would not normally-see-happen-as-a-spontaneous-event-unto-them / Do not bring on others a way they would not like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Do not act as others would not act in your place / Nothing should be done unless others consider it wonderful / Nothing should be done unless everyone considers it wonderful / ([[User:RD/9k/Q36,67\|Q36,67]])

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}steel rule / Stalin repeats your actions / Do what Stalin should do (steel inverse) / Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do / Do not have rules or policies in government or socioeconomic institutions that you would not want Stalin's government to have (ethics) / The United States was justified to win the Cold war because it was nothing like Stalin's government (sense) -><br/>		{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}steel rule / Stalin repeats your actions / Stalin mirrors your actions / Do what Stalin should do (steel inverse) / Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do / Do not have rules or policies in government or socioeconomic institutions that you would not want Stalin's government to have (ethics) / The United States was justified to win the Cold war because it was nothing like Stalin's government (sense) -><br/>
	I was always implicitly told before about the age of 18 that the United States won the Cold War because it followed this steel rule. but as I got older and saw how often it was broken I realized that that statement was almost totally false.<br/>		I was always implicitly told before about the age of 18 that the United States won the Cold War because it followed this steel rule. but as I got older and saw how often it was broken I realized that that statement was almost totally false.<br/>
	Others' actions for yourself (bronze rule) + [[EC:9k/RD/Q28,84\|thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government]] = steel rule.<br/>		Others' actions for yourself (bronze rule) + [[EC:9k/RD/Q28,84\|thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government]] = steel rule.<br/>
	Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do + Soviet Union / East Germany / People's republic of China = steel rule.		Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do + Soviet Union / East Germany / People's republic of China = steel rule.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/DX\|Q=618\|Q2=~~618~~}}~~"Do not do what~~ you ~~do not want other sovereign countries~~ to ~~do"~~ -> the ~~PRC actually follows this~~ rule ~~day~~-~~to-day while the United States doesn't~~. ~~it's actually a rather big idea~~ in ~~Deng Xiaoping Thought~~ to ~~try~~ to ~~get other countries to stop doing what they're doing through non-aggression~~.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/ES\|Q=618}}lanthanum rule / {{abbr\|Patronize\|title=Be a customer to}} others as yourself / Buy unto others as you would have others buy unto you / Encourage others to consume freshly-created products at maximum retail price in order to socialize and be part of society, and others will encourage people to buy your freshly-created products or support your freshly-created tiny business territory -> the metallic rule that creates consumerism {{i\|per se}} / [[EC:9k/RD/Q618-MysteryBoxConsumerism\|material consumerism]].<br/>
			named in reference to lanthanum being used in the production of new cell phones every few years to smooth out screens.

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Reversedragon: link: thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government

2026-05-07T13:12:55Z

link: thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government

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	{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}steel rule / Stalin repeats your actions / Do what Stalin should do (steel inverse) / Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do / Do not have rules or policies in government or socioeconomic institutions that you would not want Stalin's government to have (ethics) / The United States was justified to win the Cold war because it was nothing like Stalin's government (sense) -><br/>		{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}steel rule / Stalin repeats your actions / Do what Stalin should do (steel inverse) / Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do / Do not have rules or policies in government or socioeconomic institutions that you would not want Stalin's government to have (ethics) / The United States was justified to win the Cold war because it was nothing like Stalin's government (sense) -><br/>
	I was always implicitly told before about the age of 18 that the United States won the Cold War because it followed this steel rule. but as I got older and saw how often it was broken I realized that that statement was almost totally false.<br/>		I was always implicitly told before about the age of 18 that the United States won the Cold War because it followed this steel rule. but as I got older and saw how often it was broken I realized that that statement was almost totally false.<br/>
	Others' actions for yourself (bronze rule) + thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government = steel rule.<br/>		Others' actions for yourself (bronze rule) + [[EC:9k/RD/Q28,84\|thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government]] = steel rule.<br/>
	Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do + Soviet Union / East Germany / People's republic of China = steel rule.		Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do + Soviet Union / East Germany / People's republic of China = steel rule.

Reversedragon: Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do (hydrogen rule)

2026-05-07T08:41:46Z

Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do (hydrogen rule)

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	=== Game-theoretic rules ===		=== Game-theoretic rules ===
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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}~~iron rule~~ / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics]		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= iron rule }} / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you (game theory, Toryism, Gramscianism) / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (science fiction; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics]

	{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}~~lead rule~~ / Do unto others {{em\|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= lead rule }} / Do unto others {{em\|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you (game theory, Toryism, Gramscianism) / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618}}~~uranium rule~~ / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (~~uranium inverse~~) / [[E:Stupidity filters up\|Stupidity filters up]] (generic) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|h4= uranium rule }} / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do (uranium inverse) / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (game theory, Liberal-republicanism) / [[E:Stupidity filters up\|Stupidity filters up]] (existential materialism; generic) / {{nickel\|YT/CynicalArtKillingHope26\|Cynical art is killing hope}} / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618}}~~americium rule~~ / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you ~~/ Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do~~ / Do not what will filter down / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you ~~(americium inverse)~~ / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618\|h4= americium rule }} / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Do not what will filter down (americium inverse) / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}~~palladium rule~~ / Do unto ~~others~~ what you ~~would have them~~ do ~~when you~~ are ~~in their position / Treat others~~ as ~~you would in~~ the ~~knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en~~.~~wikipedia~~.~~org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])~~		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= hydrogen rule }} / Do unto other countries as other countries should do unto you / Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) -> countries are sometimes but not always separated by water, as with Japan, the Korean peninsula, or England and France. water contains hydrogen ions.

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silicon rule / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an AI repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) -~~> you see this one occasionally. mostly in the hypothetical. most people don't really stand by it as "important".~~		{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= palladium rule }} / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

			{{li\|I=S2/LLM/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= silicon rule }} / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an {{abbr\|AI\|title=artificial intelligence}} repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

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Reversedragon: Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do (steel inverse) / metallic rules and prisoner's dilemma

2026-05-06T23:07:28Z

Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do (steel inverse) / metallic rules and prisoner's dilemma

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=618\|h4 = atomic table of behavioral rules }} (existential materialism) ~~/ existential-materialist metallic rule~~ / periodic table of rules (sic — they're not actually quantized or periodized; "atomic" is fine though)		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/MX\|Q=618\|h4 = atomic table of behavioral rules }} (existential materialism) / periodic table of rules (sic — they're not actually quantized or periodized; "atomic" is fine though)

			{{li\|I=S0/MX\|Q=618}}existential-materialist metallic rule

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}iron rule / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics]		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}iron rule / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics]
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	{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618}}americium rule / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not what will filter down / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you (americium inverse) / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618}}americium rule / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not what will filter down / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you (americium inverse) / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silicon rule / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an AI repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) -> you see this one occasionally. mostly in the hypothetical. most people don't really stand by it as "important".		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silicon rule / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an AI repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) -> you see this one occasionally. mostly in the hypothetical. most people don't really stand by it as "important".
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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}nickel rule / Anything done once accumulates / Anything that happens once accumulates / Every Ideal reaches its extreme / Every Ideal reaches its extreme in some person or situation if it is practiced at all / Murphy's law (generic) / Anything not done once does not accumulate (nickel inverse) / Every Ideal not practiced does not reach its extreme (nickel inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])<br/>		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}nickel rule / Anything done once accumulates / Anything that happens once accumulates / All Ideals reach extremes / Every Ideal reaches its extreme / Every Ideal reaches its extreme in some person or situation if it is practiced at all / Murphy's law (generic) / Anything not done once does not accumulate (nickel inverse) / Every Ideal not practiced does not reach its extreme (nickel inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])<br/>
	nickel rule + ?? = golden rule.		nickel rule + ?? = golden rule.

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}cobalt rule / Anything chosen once accumulates / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}cobalt rule / Anything chosen once accumulates / All choices reach extremes / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}livermorium rule / Judge the moral valence of ideologies that have not been realized by their most likely results if they ever {{em\|had been}} been realized into a stable state / Do not do what it would be {{em\|possible}} that others should not do unto you -> this is verging on deontology but it doesn't quite go there because it doesn't focus on intended results specifically and instead tries to sketch out a plausible real situation so the consequences can be judged through the range of various forms of ethics that exist for real situations.		{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}livermorium rule / Judge the moral valence of ideologies that have not been realized by their most likely results if they ever {{em\|had been}} been realized into a stable state / Do not do what it would be {{em\|possible}} that others should not do unto you -> this is verging on deontology but it doesn't quite go there because it doesn't focus on intended results specifically and instead tries to sketch out a plausible real situation so the consequences can be judged through the range of various forms of ethics that exist for real situations.

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	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silver rule (golden inverse) / Do not treat others as you would not treat yourself / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silver rule (golden inverse) / Do not treat others as you would not treat yourself / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}bronze rule (golden converse) / Treat yourself as you would treat others / Do unto you as you do unto others / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}bronze rule (golden converse) / Others' actions for yourself / Treat yourself as you would treat others / Do unto you as you do unto others / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/A\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}platinum rule / Treat others as they would like to be treated / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])<br/>		{{li\|I=S2/A\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}platinum rule / Treat others as they would like to be treated / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])<br/>
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	{{li\|I=S2/ES/A\|Q=36,67\|Q2=36,67}}xenon rule / Do what others would "unto" / Produce the actions of how others would like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Act as others would / Do not what others would not "unto" (xenon inverse) / Do not unto others what they would not decide / Do not what others would not normally-see-happen-as-a-spontaneous-event-unto-them / Do not bring on others a way they would not like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Do not act as others would not act in your place / Nothing should be done unless others consider it wonderful / Nothing should be done unless everyone considers it wonderful / ([[User:RD/9k/Q36,67\|Q36,67]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES/A\|Q=36,67\|Q2=36,67}}xenon rule / Do what others would "unto" / Produce the actions of how others would like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Act as others would / Do not what others would not "unto" (xenon inverse) / Do not unto others what they would not decide / Do not what others would not normally-see-happen-as-a-spontaneous-event-unto-them / Do not bring on others a way they would not like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Do not act as others would not act in your place / Nothing should be done unless others consider it wonderful / Nothing should be done unless everyone considers it wonderful / ([[User:RD/9k/Q36,67\|Q36,67]])

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}steel rule / Stalin repeats your actions / Do what Stalin should do (steel inverse) / Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do / Do not have rules or policies in government or socioeconomic institutions that you would not want Stalin's government to have (ethics) / The United States was justified to win the Cold war because it was nothing like Stalin's government (sense) -><br/>
			I was always implicitly told before about the age of 18 that the United States won the Cold War because it followed this steel rule. but as I got older and saw how often it was broken I realized that that statement was almost totally false.<br/>
			Others' actions for yourself (bronze rule) + thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government = steel rule.<br/>
			Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do + Soviet Union / East Germany / People's republic of China = steel rule.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/DX\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}"Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do" -> the PRC actually follows this rule day-to-day while the United States doesn't. it's actually a rather big idea in Deng Xiaoping Thought to try to get other countries to stop doing what they're doing through non-aggression.

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/ES\|Q=618}}metallic rule / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/ES\|Q=618}}metallic rule / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

			{{li\|I=S1/ES\|Q=618}}metallic rules and prisoner's dilemma -> it's super easy for people to present metallic rules as the false solution to this but the problem is they don't actually give any control over the other person's decisions, which is to say whether the other person will follow the metallic rules in the first place. the prisoner's dilemma is still in place.

	{{li\|I=Z1/STM\|Q=13,032\|Q2=13032}}germanium -> found in "silver, lead, and copper ores". this weirdly suggests the content of a possible germanium rule already. silver rule: golden inverse. copper rule: either defined as iron rule or platinum rule.<br/>		{{li\|I=Z1/STM\|Q=13,032\|Q2=13032}}germanium -> found in "silver, lead, and copper ores". this weirdly suggests the content of a possible germanium rule already. silver rule: golden inverse. copper rule: either defined as iron rule or platinum rule.<br/>
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	the silver rule is the conceptual opposite of the iron rule. maybe... this is the "bad" counterpart to the platinum rule? Do unto others whatever they expect you to do to them. man, that's one of the worst ones, that's a candidate for a halogen rule. I feel like germanium should be something at least somewhat interesting, like silicon.		the silver rule is the conceptual opposite of the iron rule. maybe... this is the "bad" counterpart to the platinum rule? Do unto others whatever they expect you to do to them. man, that's one of the worst ones, that's a candidate for a halogen rule. I feel like germanium should be something at least somewhat interesting, like silicon.

	{{li\|I=S2/IV\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779}}Trotskyism is like livermorium: it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed		{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779}}Trotskyism is like livermorium: it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed

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Reversedragon: silicon rule / uranium rule

2026-04-22T05:23:26Z

silicon rule / uranium rule

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	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silicon rule / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an AI repeating or acting on -> you see this one occasionally. mostly in the hypothetical. most people don't really stand by it as "important".		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silicon rule / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an AI repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) -> you see this one occasionally. mostly in the hypothetical. most people don't really stand by it as "important".

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Reversedragon: silicon rule / 'germanium rule' / Trotskyism is like livermorium

2026-04-21T10:35:58Z

silicon rule / 'germanium rule' / Trotskyism is like livermorium

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	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

			{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silicon rule / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an AI repeating or acting on -> you see this one occasionally. mostly in the hypothetical. most people don't really stand by it as "important".

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	{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}cobalt rule / Anything chosen once accumulates / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}cobalt rule / Anything chosen once accumulates / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-CobaltRule\|9k]])

			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}livermorium rule / Judge the moral valence of ideologies that have not been realized by their most likely results if they ever {{em\|had been}} been realized into a stable state / Do not do what it would be {{em\|possible}} that others should not do unto you -> this is verging on deontology but it doesn't quite go there because it doesn't focus on intended results specifically and instead tries to sketch out a plausible real situation so the consequences can be judged through the range of various forms of ethics that exist for real situations.

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	{{li\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}thallium rule / Submit all actions to God / Yield your and others' actions to God / Whatever God tells you to do you ~~have~~ to do instead of what anyone wants / No, sir, I can't imagine a soft pretzel without butter; I certainly wouldn't serve you one / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}thallium rule / Submit all actions to God / Yield your and others' actions to God / Whatever God tells you to do you everyone has to do instead of what anyone wants / No, sir, I can't imagine a soft pretzel without butter; I certainly wouldn't serve you one / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}golden rule / Treat others as you would treat yourself / Do unto others as you would have them do unto you / Love thy neighbor as thyself (statement that may explicitly only extend to people in the same population; Christian Old Testament) / We should conduct ourselves toward others as we would have them act toward us (Aristotle) / Do not do unto others as they should not do unto you (golden inverse) / We shouldn't do to anyone what we wouldn't want done to us / the whole Torah (description of Torah as summarized by inverse golden rule) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}golden rule / Treat others as you would treat yourself / Do unto others as you would have them do unto you / Love thy neighbor as thyself (statement that may explicitly only extend to people in the same population; Christian Old Testament) / We should conduct ourselves toward others as we would have them act toward us (Aristotle) / Do not do unto others as they should not do unto you (golden inverse) / We shouldn't do to anyone what we wouldn't want done to us / the whole Torah (description of Torah as summarized by inverse golden rule) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])
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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/ES\|Q=618}}metallic rule / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/ES\|Q=618}}metallic rule / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

			{{li\|I=Z1/STM\|Q=13,032\|Q2=13032}}germanium -> found in "silver, lead, and copper ores". this weirdly suggests the content of a possible germanium rule already. silver rule: golden inverse. copper rule: either defined as iron rule or platinum rule.<br/>
			silver rule: Do not unto others as they should not do unto you. platinum rule: Do (not) unto others as they would (not) have you do unto them; others do (not) do unto you as you would (not) have them do. iron rule, lead rule: Do unto others before they do unto you.<br/>
			the silver rule is the conceptual opposite of the iron rule. maybe... this is the "bad" counterpart to the platinum rule? Do unto others whatever they expect you to do to them. man, that's one of the worst ones, that's a candidate for a halogen rule. I feel like germanium should be something at least somewhat interesting, like silicon.

			{{li\|I=S2/IV\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=47,79\|Q2=4779}}Trotskyism is like livermorium: it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed

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Reversedragon: third law of robotics

2026-04-21T08:15:32Z

third law of robotics

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}iron rule / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}iron rule / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics]

	{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}lead rule / Do unto others {{em\|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}lead rule / Do unto others {{em\|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618}}uranium rule / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (uranium inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618}}uranium rule / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (uranium inverse) / [[E:Stupidity filters up\|Stupidity filters up]] (generic) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618}}americium rule / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not what will filter down / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you (americium inverse~~) / [[E:Stupidity filters up\|Stupidity filters up]] (generic~~) / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618}}americium rule / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not what will filter down / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you (americium inverse) / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] ~~-> I never thought of the veil of ignorance as a counterpart to the golden rule but I don't know why not because they are conceptually similar.~~		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

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	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}bronze rule (golden converse) / Treat yourself as you would treat others / Do unto you as you do unto others / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}bronze rule (golden converse) / Treat yourself as you would treat others / Do unto you as you do unto others / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/A\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}platinum rule / Treat others ~~how~~ they would like to be treated / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])<br/>		{{li\|I=S2/A\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}platinum rule / Treat others as they would like to be treated / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])<br/>
	cultural relativism proposition + ?? = platinum rule. platinum rule + ?? = cultural relativism proposition.		cultural relativism proposition + ?? = platinum rule. platinum rule + ?? = cultural relativism proposition.

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}~~iron rule~~ / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics]		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= iron rule }} / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you (game theory, Toryism, Gramscianism) / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (science fiction; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics]

	{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}~~lead rule~~ / Do unto others {{em\|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= lead rule }} / Do unto others {{em\|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you (game theory, Toryism, Gramscianism) / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618}}~~uranium rule~~ / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (~~uranium inverse~~) / [[E:Stupidity filters up\|Stupidity filters up]] (generic) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|h4= uranium rule }} / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do (uranium inverse) / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (game theory, Liberal-republicanism) / [[E:Stupidity filters up\|Stupidity filters up]] (existential materialism; generic) / {{nickel\|YT/CynicalArtKillingHope26\|Cynical art is killing hope}} / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618}}~~americium rule~~ / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you ~~/ Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do~~ / Do not what will filter down / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you ~~(americium inverse)~~ / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618\|h4= americium rule }} / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Do not what will filter down (americium inverse) / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}~~palladium rule~~ / Do unto ~~others~~ what you ~~would have them~~ do ~~when you~~ are ~~in their position / Treat others~~ as ~~you would in~~ the ~~knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en~~.~~wikipedia~~.~~org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])~~		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= hydrogen rule }} / Do unto other countries as other countries should do unto you / Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) -> countries are sometimes but not always separated by water, as with Japan, the Korean peninsula, or England and France. water contains hydrogen ions.

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}silicon rule / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an AI repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) -~~> you see this one occasionally. mostly in the hypothetical. most people don't really stand by it as "important".~~		{{li\|I=S2/LR\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= palladium rule }} / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

			{{li\|I=S2/LLM/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618\|h4= silicon rule }} / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an {{abbr\|AI\|title=artificial intelligence}} repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}iron rule / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/PT\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}iron rule / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics]

	{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}lead rule / Do unto others {{em\|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}lead rule / Do unto others {{em\|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618}}uranium rule / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (uranium inverse) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/W\|Q=618}}uranium rule / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (uranium inverse) / [[E:Stupidity filters up\|Stupidity filters up]] (generic) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618}}americium rule / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not what will filter down / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you (americium inverse~~) / [[E:Stupidity filters up\|Stupidity filters up]] (generic~~) / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/DX\|Q=618}}americium rule / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not what will filter down / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you (americium inverse) / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] ~~-> I never thought of the veil of ignorance as a counterpart to the golden rule but I don't know why not because they are conceptually similar.~~		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}palladium rule / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat\|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

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	{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}bronze rule (golden converse) / Treat yourself as you would treat others / Do unto you as you do unto others / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}bronze rule (golden converse) / Treat yourself as you would treat others / Do unto you as you do unto others / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/A\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}platinum rule / Treat others ~~how~~ they would like to be treated / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])<br/>		{{li\|I=S2/A\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}platinum rule / Treat others as they would like to be treated / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98\|9k]])<br/>
	cultural relativism proposition + ?? = platinum rule. platinum rule + ?? = cultural relativism proposition.		cultural relativism proposition + ?? = platinum rule. platinum rule + ?? = cultural relativism proposition.