Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q618-UminekoNoNakuKoroNi - Revision history

Reversedragon: [potential spoiler] represents global capitalism (Umineko)

2026-08-01T03:17:38Z

[potential spoiler] represents global capitalism (Umineko)

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	{{ContentWarning		{{ContentWarning
	\| Umineko spoilers		\| Umineko spoilers
	\| Umineko is a relatively linear story that is best experienced without spoilers (or very minimal spoilers). <strong>There may be partial spoilers up to about Episode 3 on this page.</strong>		\| Umineko is a relatively linear story that is best experienced without spoilers (or very minimal spoilers). <strong>There may be partial spoilers up to about Episode 3 on this page.</strong>
			\| I have put all spoilers from after the beginning of Day 2 in spoiler tags. If you mention any of these propositions in edit summaries, please use the redacted titles.
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	{{li\|start=y\|I=Z1/Fy/MX\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Umineko / {{TTS\|lang=ja\|『うみねこのなく頃に』\|title=Umineko no Naku Koro ni}} -> a highly unusual case of a work of fiction being violet not just due to its approach but due to its specific subject matter. I won't spoil the exact plot of the story itself on this page but see below. if you've already read the work your mind will be blown.		{{li\|start=y\|I=Z1/Fy/MX\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Umineko / {{TTS\|lang=ja\|『うみねこのなく頃に』\|title=Umineko no Naku Koro ni}} -> a highly unusual case of a work of fiction being violet not just due to its approach but due to its specific subject matter. I won't spoil the exact plot of {{em\|the story itself}} on this page but see below. if you've already read the work your mind will be blown.

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	== ~~Related~~ ==		== Unpacking the allegory ==
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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/IV\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Umineko and {{book\|Animal Farm}} are telling the same story -> you think I'm joking. but this is not a joke.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Umineko and {{book\|Animal Farm}} are telling the same story / Umineko and [potential spoiler] are telling the same story (redacted title) -> you think I'm joking. but this is not a joke.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Kinzo represents global capitalism / [potential spoiler] represents global capitalism (Umineko) (redacted title) -> hmm. I think the best thing to do with these propositions is to create an abbreviated form of the proposition that is amusingly cryptic, then explain the whole thing on a proposition page just for the individual proposition.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/IV\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}{{spoiler\|Natsuhi going against Eva with a gun}} is the Moscow Trials / [potential spoilers] is the Moscow Trials (Umineko) (redacted title)

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	{{li\|I=S1/MN\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}{{TTS\|MN\|M.N.}} / historical materialism in fiction		{{li\|I=S1/MN\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}{{TTS\|MN\|M.N.}} / historical materialism in fiction
			{{li\|I=S1/MX\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}{{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} / meta-Marxism in fiction
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Reversedragon: Umineko and (potential spoiler) are telling the same story

2026-08-01T00:06:35Z

Umineko and (potential spoiler) are telling the same story

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/ML\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/IV\|tradition=\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}Umineko and {{book\|Animal Farm}} are telling the same story -> you think I'm joking. but this is not a joke.

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	== Ideologies or fields ==		== Ideologies or fields ==

Reversedragon: Umineko ; copy markup from Q618

2026-08-01T00:03:27Z

Umineko ; copy markup from Q618

New page

{{NextNineThousand|PPPA=Umineko / When They Cry|User=RD|E=Q618|NoContents=y}}
{{ContentWarning
| Umineko spoilers
| Umineko is a relatively linear story that is best experienced without spoilers (or very minimal spoilers). <strong>There may be partial spoilers up to about Episode 3 on this page.</strong>
}}
== Main entry ==
{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean field_ML">

{{li|start=y|I=Z1/Fy/MX|Q=618|Q2=618}}Umineko / {{TTS|lang=ja|『うみねこのなく頃に』|title=Umineko no Naku Koro ni}} -> a highly unusual case of a work of fiction being violet not just due to its approach but due to its specific subject matter. I won't spoil the exact plot of the story itself on this page but see below. if you've already read the work your mind will be blown.

</li></ol>

== Related ==


== Ideologies or fields ==
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|I=S1/Fy|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|Fy|fiction}} / mystery narratives
{{li|I=S1/Fy|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|Fy|fiction}} / aristocrat fiction
{{li|I=S1/Fy|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|Fy|fiction}} / fiction about Japanese history
{{li|I=S1/Fy|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|Fy|fiction}} / fiction commenting on a historical period
{{li|I=S1/Fy|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|Fy|fiction}} / allegorical fiction
{{li|I=S1/MN|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|MN|M.N.}} / historical materialism in fiction
</li></ol>

== Subpages ==
* [[User:RD/comm/umineko|commentary]] - my immediate thoughts while reading the work. spoilers on specific story details.



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