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Reversedragon: the Asgore (archetypical figure)

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the Asgore (archetypical figure)

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR\|Q=65,31\|Q2=6531}}Asgore ({{game\|Undertale}})		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR\|Q=65,31\|Q2=6531}}Asgore ({{game\|Undertale}})

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			== Motifs ==
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			<li data-qid="59,25" value="5925" class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX, ML, MZ" data-dimension="S">the prince (meta-Marxism) / the Stalin (archetypical figure) / the Asgore (archetypical figure) / Marxist theorist archetype (meta-Marxist literary analysis) / the prince (as interpreted through meta-Marxism rather than through the descriptive models of feudal orders detailed by Machiavelli; not Machiavellianism) -><br/>
			the abstract concept of a figure that is tasked with making decisions in order to end a conflict between two groups of living, breathing, chunk-competing Subjects, and is stuck in hardship, removed from privilege, having to figure out history's most difficult problems for everyone and probably being hated for any solution because history is messy and few solutions ever look good. the motif of a figure with a sword of Damocles over them who may be wrongly framed as causing all the problems when they were really just handed an impossible problem to solve and pushed to step up and make personal sacrifices and compromises of various kinds to solve it.<br />
			Undertale is wired if you decide to take it rather literally. Deltarune might be too. if I'm right that Gaster is actually Dess and she/he is actually in there trying their best to halt the Roaring. but even if I didn't guess Deltarune right I don't care, you can still point to the concept in Undertale if you look closely.

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			{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR\|Q=65,32\|Q2=6532}}Asgore ({{game\|Deltarune}})

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{{li|start=y|I=S1/UTDR|Q=65,31|Q2=6531}}Asgore ({{game|Undertale}})

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== Related ==



== Ideologies or fields ==

* UTDR / [[EC:9k/RD/Q7616|Undertale]]

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