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Reversedragon: The Knight is Dess lucid dreaming

2026-06-25T08:14:27Z

The Knight is Dess lucid dreaming

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	{{li\|I=S2/DFy\|Q=66,34\|Q2=6634}}The Knight contains Dess / December Holiday is The Knight -> one line of reasoning is Mother 3 {{YouTube\|dQXZ2IbbowQ}}		{{li\|I=S2/DFy\|Q=66,34\|Q2=6634}}The Knight contains Dess / December Holiday is The Knight -> one line of reasoning is Mother 3 {{YouTube\|dQXZ2IbbowQ}}

			{{li\|I=S2/Fy\|Q=618\|Q2=618}}The Knight is Dess lucid dreaming / The Roaring Knight is Dess becoming able to lucid-dream and take control of her physical form in the created world of Deltarune (their form; his form; Deltarune) -> (this was a video)

	{{li\|I=S2/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,30\|Q2=6630}}The Knight is a ball of glass / The Knight is some kind of ball or stone that Dess skipped into the Dark Worlds and Light World to make waves — possibly a ball formed out of molten glass shards that fell away from Dess while escaping the game world		{{li\|I=S2/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,30\|Q2=6630}}The Knight is a ball of glass / The Knight is some kind of ball or stone that Dess skipped into the Dark Worlds and Light World to make waves — possibly a ball formed out of molten glass shards that fell away from Dess while escaping the game world
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			== Wavebuilder combinations ==
			<dl class="wikitable hue data_wavebuild three">

			{{WaveBuild\| {{E:Q618/DFy\|Q=618\|Waterfall retells Dess' story}} \| {{E:Q618/DFy\|Q=64,91\|Roaring Knight sphere}} \| {{E:Q618/DFy\|Q=618\|The Knight is a ball of glass}} }} <!-- en: Along With, Produces ?? ?? -->

			</dl>

	== Ideologies or fields ==		== Ideologies or fields ==

Reversedragon: The Knight is a ball of glass

2026-06-24T07:06:26Z

The Knight is a ball of glass

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,90\|Q2=6690}}[[E:Q6690\|The Roaring Knight]] / The Knight (Deltarune)		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,90\|Q2=6690}}[[E:Q6690\|The Roaring Knight]] / The Knight (Deltarune)

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR~~\|class=field_fantasy field_horror~~\|Q=69,12\|Q2=6912}}Dess Holiday <!-- December Holiday --> / ({{9k\|RD/Q6912}})		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=69,12\|Q2=6912}}Dess Holiday <!-- December Holiday --> / ({{9k\|RD/Q6912}})


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	{{li\|I=S2/DFy\|Q=66,34\|Q2=6634}}The Knight contains Dess / December Holiday is The Knight -> one line of reasoning is Mother 3 {{YouTube\|dQXZ2IbbowQ}}		{{li\|I=S2/DFy\|Q=66,34\|Q2=6634}}The Knight contains Dess / December Holiday is The Knight -> one line of reasoning is Mother 3 {{YouTube\|dQXZ2IbbowQ}}

			{{li\|I=S2/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,30\|Q2=6630}}The Knight is a ball of glass / The Knight is some kind of ball or stone that Dess skipped into the Dark Worlds and Light World to make waves — possibly a ball formed out of molten glass shards that fell away from Dess while escaping the game world

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Reversedragon: theories

2026-05-26T09:08:14Z

theories

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	== Theories ==		== Theories ==
	~~<!--~~ <ol class="hue clean field_horror">		<ol class="hue clean field_horror">
	</li></ol~~> --~~>
			{{li\|start=y\|I=F2/Fy\|Q=66,30\|Q2=6630}}The Knight is Kris / Kris was The Knight in Chapter 2 / Kris is The Knight

			{{li\|I=F2/Fy\|Q=66,31\|Q2=6631}}The Knight is multiple people / Multiple characters are The Knight

			{{li\|I=S2/DFy\|Q=66,34\|Q2=6634}}The Knight contains Dess / December Holiday is The Knight -> one line of reasoning is Mother 3 {{YouTube\|dQXZ2IbbowQ}}

			</li></ol>

	== Related ==		== Related ==

Reversedragon: it's better you don't wake up (Deltarune chapter 2)

2026-05-23T06:01:22Z

it's better you don't wake up (Deltarune chapter 2)

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	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=64,91\|Q2=6491}}Roaring Knight sphere -> this may be a baseball.		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=64,91\|Q2=6491}}Roaring Knight sphere -> this may be a baseball.

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/~~DFy~~\|Q=66,88\|Q2=6688}}Black Knife / Black Blade		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,88\|Q2=6688}}Black Knife / Black Blade

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/~~DFy~~\|Q=66,87\|Q2=6687}}Dark Shard -> an item dropped by the Roaring Knight that exists in the Dark World and is not the same entity as the Shadow Crystal, at least at the level of the TV and Tenna not being the same entity.		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune)

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,87\|Q2=6687}}Dark Shard -> an item dropped by the Roaring Knight that exists in the Dark World and is not the same entity as the Shadow Crystal, at least at the level of the TV and Tenna not being the same entity.

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,94\|Q2=6694}}"your heartbeat becomes twisted" -> quote that appears in Roaring Knight battle.		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,94\|Q2=6694}}"your heartbeat becomes twisted" -> quote that appears in Roaring Knight battle.

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune) -> in the Roaring Knight's first animation it absolutely wails, then appears a sword from its hand. that is not a normal place for a sword to be stored. we know it is not normal because of how in Chapter 4 the Red Soul can make Kris "equip" Noelle's hand with a thorn although she had a vision where Kris is explicitly taking it out. it even looked like the Soul is crudely stabbing it straight through Noelle's palm, not where the ring goes. so what the hell happened to December to obtain that sword? did she get stabbed through the hand with a Shadow Crystal and become unable to find her hand?

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune)		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune) -> in the Roaring Knight's first animation it absolutely wails, then appears a sword from its hand. that is not a normal place for a sword to be stored. we know it is not normal because of how in Chapter 4 the Red Soul can make Kris "equip" Noelle's hand with a thorn although she had a vision where Kris is explicitly taking it out. it even looked like the Soul is crudely stabbing it straight through Noelle's palm, not where the ring goes. so what the hell happened to December to obtain that sword? did she get stabbed through the hand with a Shadow Crystal and become unable to find her hand?

	{{li\|I=S1/DFy\|Q=63,80\|Q2=6380}}cutting off arm for weapon ({{film\|Adventure Time}}) / cutting off arm for powers ({{film\|Fionna and Cake}}) -> comes up twice in Adventure Time. {{em\|may}} appear in Deltarune although that's not clear.<br />		{{li\|I=S1/DFy\|Q=63,80\|Q2=6380}}cutting off arm for weapon ({{film\|Adventure Time}}) / cutting off arm for powers ({{film\|Fionna and Cake}}) -> comes up twice in Adventure Time. {{em\|may}} appear in Deltarune although that's not clear.<br />
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	in {{film\|Fionna and Cake}}, Huntress Wizard becomes the focus and we learn she more literally cut off her hand to get powers. but at the same time, she refused to make connections to the order of "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons) druids]" or forest wizards, and couldn't commit herself to building a relationship with Finn.<br />		in {{film\|Fionna and Cake}}, Huntress Wizard becomes the focus and we learn she more literally cut off her hand to get powers. but at the same time, she refused to make connections to the order of "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons) druids]" or forest wizards, and couldn't commit herself to building a relationship with Finn.<br />
	in Deltarune... maybe this is just me, but I keep looking at the Knight's sword and I think of Huntress Wizard and Fern. it just feels like this weapon gained from an unreasonable sacrifice		in Deltarune... maybe this is just me, but I keep looking at the Knight's sword and I think of Huntress Wizard and Fern. it just feels like this weapon gained from an unreasonable sacrifice

			{{li\|I=S1/DFy\|Q=63,97\|Q2=6397}}ThornRing

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,66\|Q2=6366}}Gaster hand holes

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=64,21\|Q2=6421}}only eyes blinded by darkness can see -> statement said next to a Chapter 1 puzzle. this seems to vaguely associate "darkness", as seen in the Dark Worlds, with "seeing the truth", and hint that in some sense you can turn that on or off.

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=64,22\|Q2=6422}}it's better you don't wake up (Deltarune chapter 2) -> very interesting thing Queen says. when she says Noelle shouldn't have woken up.... what exactly has she woken up to? could it, maybe, be something related to the Roaring Knight and the suspicious Gaster hand holes or the Knight sword?<br/>
			don't forget that Kris turns the literal cactus needle into a sword item. there's already a link between thorns and swords. [https://deltarune.wiki/w/Saber10]

	</li></ol>		</li></ol>

Reversedragon: drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune)

2026-05-23T04:29:28Z

drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune)

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	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,94\|Q2=6694}}"your heartbeat becomes twisted" -> quote that appears in Roaring Knight battle.		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,94\|Q2=6694}}"your heartbeat becomes twisted" -> quote that appears in Roaring Knight battle.

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune) -> in the Roaring Knight's first animation it absolutely wails, then appears a sword from its hand. that is not a normal place for a sword to be stored. we know it is not normal because of how in Chapter 4 the Red Soul can make Kris "equip" Noelle's hand with a thorn although she had a vision where Kris is explicitly taking it out. it even looked like the Soul is crudely stabbing it straight through Noelle's palm, not where the ring goes. so what the hell happened to December to obtain that sword? did she get stabbed through the hand with a Shadow Crystal and become unable to find her hand?

	</li></ol>		</li></ol>

	== Surrounding motifs ==		== Surrounding motifs ==
	<ol class="hue clean field_horror">		<ol class="hue clean field_horror">

	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,89\|Q2=6689}}Shadow Mantle		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,89\|Q2=6689}}Shadow Mantle

			</li></ol>

			== Hand sword ==
			<ol class="hue clean field_horror">

			{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune)

			{{li\|I=S1/DFy\|Q=63,80\|Q2=6380}}cutting off arm for weapon ({{film\|Adventure Time}}) / cutting off arm for powers ({{film\|Fionna and Cake}}) -> comes up twice in Adventure Time. {{em\|may}} appear in Deltarune although that's not clear.<br />
			in {{film\|Adventure Time}}, Fern is the first to be connected with this motif. Finn accepts the grass sword, and unknowingly "cuts off" his arm. then Fern comes back and is basically made of pain. it's like the grass sword was always some kind of metaphor for suffering being stuck to you over a long period of time<br />
			in {{film\|Fionna and Cake}}, Huntress Wizard becomes the focus and we learn she more literally cut off her hand to get powers. but at the same time, she refused to make connections to the order of "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons) druids]" or forest wizards, and couldn't commit herself to building a relationship with Finn.<br />
			in Deltarune... maybe this is just me, but I keep looking at the Knight's sword and I think of Huntress Wizard and Fern. it just feels like this weapon gained from an unreasonable sacrifice

	</li></ol>		</li></ol>

Reversedragon: Dess

2026-05-10T10:04:39Z

Dess

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	{{NextNineThousand\|PPPA=The Roaring Knight\|User=RD\|E=Q66,90\|NoContents=y}}		{{NextNineThousand\|PPPA=The Roaring Knight\|User=RD\|E=Q66,90\|NoContents=y}}
	== Main ~~entry~~ ==		== Main entries ==
	{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean field_horror">		{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean field_horror">

	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/~~DFy~~\|Q=66,90\|Q2=6690}}[[E:Q6690\|The Roaring Knight]] / The Knight (Deltarune)		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,90\|Q2=6690}}[[E:Q6690\|The Roaring Knight]] / The Knight (Deltarune)

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR\|class=field_fantasy field_horror\|Q=69,12\|Q2=6912}}Dess Holiday <!-- December Holiday --> / ({{9k\|RD/Q6912}})


	</li></ol>		</li></ol>

Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q6690 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q66,90: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

2026-05-10T09:53:21Z

Reversedragon moved page Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q6690 to Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q66,90: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title

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Reversedragon: Black Knife

2026-05-10T09:53:00Z

Black Knife

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	== Themes and motifs ==		== Themes and motifs ==
	~~<!--~~<ol class="hue clean field_horror">		<ol class="hue clean field_horror">
	</li></ol~~>--~~>
			{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=64,91\|Q2=6491}}Roaring Knight sphere -> The Knight reverts into a little rotating sphere when defeated. is that just a cool move, or is that actually the thing that created it in some sense, like the Pippins showing up as dice in the monochrome pictures?
			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=64,91\|Q2=6491}}Roaring Knight sphere -> this may be a baseball.

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,88\|Q2=6688}}Black Knife / Black Blade

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,87\|Q2=6687}}Dark Shard -> an item dropped by the Roaring Knight that exists in the Dark World and is not the same entity as the Shadow Crystal, at least at the level of the TV and Tenna not being the same entity.

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,94\|Q2=6694}}"your heartbeat becomes twisted" -> quote that appears in Roaring Knight battle.

			</li></ol>
	== Surrounding motifs ==		== Surrounding motifs ==
	~~<!--~~
	<ol class="hue clean field_horror">		<ol class="hue clean field_horror">
	</li></ol~~>--~~>
			{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,89\|Q2=6689}}Shadow Mantle

			</li></ol>

	== Theories ==		== Theories ==

Reversedragon: copy markup from Q66,90

2026-05-10T09:47:50Z

copy markup from Q66,90

New page

{{NextNineThousand|PPPA=The Roaring Knight|User=RD|E=Q66,90|NoContents=y}}
== Main entry ==
{{HueCSS}}<ol class="hue clean field_horror">

{{li|start=y|I=S1/UTDR/DFy|Q=66,90|Q2=6690}}[[E:Q6690|The Roaring Knight]] / The Knight (Deltarune)

</li></ol>

== Themes and motifs ==

== Surrounding motifs ==


== Theories ==


== Related ==


== Ideologies or fields ==


* Fy / urban fantasy
* (D)Fy / psychological horror
* (D)Fy / body horror
* (D)Fy / cosmic horror
* UTDR / [[EC:9k/RD/Q76,17|Deltarune]]

[[Category:Next nine thousand (RD)]]

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	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=64,91\|Q2=6491}}Roaring Knight sphere -> this may be a baseball.		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=64,91\|Q2=6491}}Roaring Knight sphere -> this may be a baseball.

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/~~DFy~~\|Q=66,88\|Q2=6688}}Black Knife / Black Blade		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,88\|Q2=6688}}Black Knife / Black Blade

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/~~DFy~~\|Q=66,87\|Q2=6687}}Dark Shard -> an item dropped by the Roaring Knight that exists in the Dark World and is not the same entity as the Shadow Crystal, at least at the level of the TV and Tenna not being the same entity.		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune)

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=66,87\|Q2=6687}}Dark Shard -> an item dropped by the Roaring Knight that exists in the Dark World and is not the same entity as the Shadow Crystal, at least at the level of the TV and Tenna not being the same entity.

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,94\|Q2=6694}}"your heartbeat becomes twisted" -> quote that appears in Roaring Knight battle.		{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=66,94\|Q2=6694}}"your heartbeat becomes twisted" -> quote that appears in Roaring Knight battle.

	{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune) -> in the Roaring Knight's first animation it absolutely wails, then appears a sword from its hand. that is not a normal place for a sword to be stored. we know it is not normal because of how in Chapter 4 the Red Soul can make Kris "equip" Noelle's hand with a thorn although she had a vision where Kris is explicitly taking it out. it even looked like the Soul is crudely stabbing it straight through Noelle's palm, not where the ring goes. so what the hell happened to December to obtain that sword? did she get stabbed through the hand with a Shadow Crystal and become unable to find her hand?

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune)		{{li\|start=y\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,81\|Q2=6381}}drawing sword out of hand (Deltarune) -> in the Roaring Knight's first animation it absolutely wails, then appears a sword from its hand. that is not a normal place for a sword to be stored. we know it is not normal because of how in Chapter 4 the Red Soul can make Kris "equip" Noelle's hand with a thorn although she had a vision where Kris is explicitly taking it out. it even looked like the Soul is crudely stabbing it straight through Noelle's palm, not where the ring goes. so what the hell happened to December to obtain that sword? did she get stabbed through the hand with a Shadow Crystal and become unable to find her hand?

	{{li\|I=S1/DFy\|Q=63,80\|Q2=6380}}cutting off arm for weapon ({{film\|Adventure Time}}) / cutting off arm for powers ({{film\|Fionna and Cake}}) -> comes up twice in Adventure Time. {{em\|may}} appear in Deltarune although that's not clear.<br />		{{li\|I=S1/DFy\|Q=63,80\|Q2=6380}}cutting off arm for weapon ({{film\|Adventure Time}}) / cutting off arm for powers ({{film\|Fionna and Cake}}) -> comes up twice in Adventure Time. {{em\|may}} appear in Deltarune although that's not clear.<br />
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	in {{film\|Fionna and Cake}}, Huntress Wizard becomes the focus and we learn she more literally cut off her hand to get powers. but at the same time, she refused to make connections to the order of "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons) druids]" or forest wizards, and couldn't commit herself to building a relationship with Finn.<br />		in {{film\|Fionna and Cake}}, Huntress Wizard becomes the focus and we learn she more literally cut off her hand to get powers. but at the same time, she refused to make connections to the order of "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons) druids]" or forest wizards, and couldn't commit herself to building a relationship with Finn.<br />
	in Deltarune... maybe this is just me, but I keep looking at the Knight's sword and I think of Huntress Wizard and Fern. it just feels like this weapon gained from an unreasonable sacrifice		in Deltarune... maybe this is just me, but I keep looking at the Knight's sword and I think of Huntress Wizard and Fern. it just feels like this weapon gained from an unreasonable sacrifice

			{{li\|I=S1/DFy\|Q=63,97\|Q2=6397}}ThornRing

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=63,66\|Q2=6366}}Gaster hand holes

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/WD66\|Q=64,21\|Q2=6421}}only eyes blinded by darkness can see -> statement said next to a Chapter 1 puzzle. this seems to vaguely associate "darkness", as seen in the Dark Worlds, with "seeing the truth", and hint that in some sense you can turn that on or off.

			{{li\|I=S1/UTDR/DFy\|Q=64,22\|Q2=6422}}it's better you don't wake up (Deltarune chapter 2) -> very interesting thing Queen says. when she says Noelle shouldn't have woken up.... what exactly has she woken up to? could it, maybe, be something related to the Roaring Knight and the suspicious Gaster hand holes or the Knight sword?<br/>
			don't forget that Kris turns the literal cactus needle into a sword item. there's already a link between thorns and swords. [https://deltarune.wiki/w/Saber10]

	</li></ol>		</li></ol>