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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;chronology - archive scrap created yesterday&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Piatya exploiting water-edge bugs&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
did I predict this before Chapter 5 or not??&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-04-08T16:40:04H  - Piatya having Ice Axe.  pre- Chapter 5! but no mention of water, only ice.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I describe the Roaring in either Deltarune or Auldernet as &amp;quot;the ground splitting apart&amp;quot;, as Ralsei&amp;#039;s prophecy did. I conceptualize the ice ax imagery as something of a hard mattock that splits ice like shattering glass. I do not mention water.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
so far I&amp;#039;m closer to &amp;#039;predicting&amp;#039; the kinds of symbolism used in Umineko before I&amp;#039;ve read any of it than I am to predicting Deltarune.&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-04-15T14:36:13H  - rift knight theory, first known time recorded with timestamp&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-04-19T14:52:30H  - I note that Dess appears to be &amp;quot;behind&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;beneath&amp;quot; Chapter 1 &amp;quot;fountain&amp;quot; as evidenced by Lancer. / blood running from wounds is just a fabricated rule, shattered glass is closer to reality / Lightners were like gods to us = Dess urging Spade King to defy gods&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I describe going between layers of Deltarune&amp;#039;s reality as breaking glass or ignoring pain but do not really mention water.&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-06-05T00:00I (JST)  - chapters 1-4 [https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/release-time/]&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-06-23T17:03:36H  - kimba thought.  in Texas this was the 23rd&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-06-24T11:00R (EDT) / 2026-06-24T15:00Z  - chapter 5&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2026-06-25T00:30:17H  - date I received chapter 5&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-06-25T09:41:22H  - approximate date of &amp;quot;lion finds gods below lake&amp;quot;. I think I played the start of Chapter 5, went to sleep, and wrote this at some time after I woke up.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I think I hadn&amp;#039;t seen the Weird Route yet but I may have seen the email survey given before Chapter 5 dropped where people were making guesses about &amp;quot;the depths&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the lake&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-07-10T05:54:38H &amp;quot;the ice axe is a flask of water&amp;quot;  - 16 days after chapter 5&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
this was based on Spyro glitches. [https://spyro.fandom.com/wiki/Swim_in_the_Air_Glitch] [https://spyro.fandom.com/wiki/Spyro_2:_Ripto%27s_Rage!]  first available in 1999&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-07-10T09:38:08H  - I look for an ominous but contextually funny bible verse which would be the &amp;#039;wormwood&amp;#039; counterpart for Auldernet. this leads to me reading all the way through Revelation and realizing the prophecy and many things connected to it are references to this narrative&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-07-11T14:33:52H  - auldernet&amp;#039;s prophecy&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-07-14T09:13:06H  &amp;quot;he knows about the thermokarst anomaly&amp;quot;  - 20 days after chapter 5&lt;br /&gt;
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2026-08-02T08:56:26H  - I scrawl out an interpretation of chapter 0 and its main protagonist &amp;quot;Dr. Dess Aster&amp;quot; &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;m with you in the dark&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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well. after laying out a timeline of the past 4 months, all the &amp;quot;historical evidence&amp;quot; seems to say I {{em|did not}} predict &amp;quot;Errormancer powers based on water&amp;quot; before Chapter 5.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
that part was retrofitted to Chapter 5 either intentionally or unintentionally, and then I started building the point about &amp;quot;islands&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the wider world&amp;quot; based on that&lt;br /&gt;
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which means Deltarune really did become {{em|more Trotskyist than I was expecting it to be}} in its inherent thematic structure as a narrative when Chapter 5 hit in a way it wasn&amp;#039;t before Chapter 5. Piatya gaining more themes and importance flowed from the actual content of Deltarune Chapter 5.&lt;br /&gt;
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also worth noting: the more I revisit Piatya&amp;#039;s story separately from the main Deltarune story the more I move away from any reference to water and revert back to the concept of solid shards of ice howling through the air — further driving in that was my pre- Chapter 5 working model.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
although when I revisit &amp;quot;[[EC:9k/RD/Q72,84|Mike]]&amp;quot; I sometimes think about whole Far Side towns disturbingly {{em|melting}} from improper treatment and forming ocean that way. the fire guy causes water (who has a slightly flawed understanding of Materialism) but the ice guy doesn&amp;#039;t (who may understand Materialism better), is what seems to be my logic&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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