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Reversedragon: evil beings only using other living things for their own gain

2026-05-07T12:26:31Z

evil beings only using other living things for their own gain

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	=== Nickel usage or significance ===		=== Nickel usage or significance ===
	* ~~(add later)~~		* Demonstrates the ways in which the {{game\|Pokémon}} series appears to fundamentally center around ethics

	== Motifs or claims ==		== Motifs or claims ==
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	{{li\|I=S1/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}the balance between Pokémon and humanity		{{li\|I=S1/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}the balance between Pokémon and humanity

	{{li\|I=S1/IK\|Q=50,98}}evil beings only using other living things for their own gain / ... that you treat the humanity in your own person and in that of others (including their consent) as an end before a means ... (Kant~~) (counter-claim~~) / ({{9k\|RD/~~Q50~~,98}}) ~~-> in the manga, Cobalion was upset about the lack or presence of this. to be fair though [[EC:9k/RD/Q11,6,38\|it is the Pokémon of justice]], so that vaguely {{em\|is}} its "job".~~		{{li\|I=S1/IK\|Q=50,98}}evil beings only using other living things for their own gain (counter-claim) / ... that you treat the humanity in your own person and in that of others (including their consent) as an end before a means ... (categorical imperative, Immanuel Kant) / ({{9k\|RD/Q54,96}})

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	== Subjective themes ==		== Subjective themes ==
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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/ES/A\|Q=618}}Anarchists won't listen to any proposition which isn't phrased in terms of ethics / Anarchists won't listen to any proposition about reality which isn't phrased in terms of individual ethics / ({{9k\|RD/Q3300}})		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/ES/A\|Q=618}}Anarchists won't listen to any proposition which isn't phrased in terms of ethics / Anarchists won't listen to any proposition about reality which isn't phrased in terms of individual ethics / ({{9k\|RD/Q3300}})

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/A\|Q=618}}N is an anarchist ({{game\|Pokémon}}) / N Harmonia is a charcoal anarchist ([[E:anarchism to restore Native American tribe\|tribal anarchisms]]; {{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|Fy\|fiction}}) / N is a [[E:Western-Marxism\|strawberry]] [[E:Fisherism is actually an anarchism\|anarchist]] ([[E:Fisherism (Western-Marxism)\|Fisherism]]) [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N_Harmonia] -> this is a more complicated claim than it sounds. the claim is that because N talks about Pokémon being raised in society as something that programs them to think and want certain things rather than what they "really" want, he is saying that society is unnatural while Free Will can only exist uncorrupted outside society. unpacking how that relates to anarchism takes longer, but there are various ways to argue that depending on what anarchism you're aiming at.<br/>		{{li\|I=S2/MX/A\|Q=618}}N is an anarchist ({{game\|Pokémon}}) / N Harmonia is a charcoal anarchist ([[E:anarchism to restore Native American tribe\|tribal anarchisms]]; {{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|Fy\|fiction}}) / N is a [[E:Western-Marxism\|strawberry]] [[E:Fisherism is actually an anarchism\|anarchist]] ([[E:Fisherism (Western-Marxism)\|Fisherism]]) [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N_Harmonia] / ({{9k\|RD/Q54,96}})
	~~case of:~~ {{a\|~~assertion someone is an anarchist~~\|E=~~Q32,99~~\|~~sense=Q32~~,~~99/SB~~}}.
			{{li\|I=S2/DFy/ML\|Q=618}}Pokémon trainers are a manifestation of bourgeois ideology / ({{9k\|RD/Q54,96}})

	{{li\|I=S2/MX/W\|Q=618}}N is a Western Marxist ({{game\|Pokémon}}) / N Harmonia is the fantasy equivalent of a Western-Marxist — in an allegorical sense — because N looked at the system of humans recruiting Pokémon into Pokémon teams (corporations) to level them up and evolve them (gain "job experience" or social capital) at the expense of other Pokémon (thousands of people who don't get hired), and questioned why Pokémon (workers) should allow trainers (bourgeoisie) to decide everything that they value and believe (what industry they belong to, what they produce, whether the way a corporation operates is ethical) ~~-> I am pretty burned out on following Pokémon "unironically"~~, ~~but this right here is the only kind of thing that can bring me back to Pokémon as a "plot thread" that I can't help tugging on that is absolutely gripping~~		{{li\|I=S2/MX/W\|Q=618}}N is a Western Marxist ({{game\|Pokémon}}) / N Harmonia is the fantasy equivalent of a Western-Marxist — in an allegorical sense — because N looked at the system of humans recruiting Pokémon into Pokémon teams (corporations) to level them up and evolve them (gain "job experience" or social capital) at the expense of other Pokémon (thousands of people who don't get hired), and questioned why Pokémon (workers) should allow trainers (bourgeoisie) to decide everything that they value and believe (what industry they belong to, what they produce, whether the way a corporation operates is ethical) / ({{9k\|RD/Q54,96}})

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2026-05-07T10:22:50Z

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Reversedragon: sorting header

2026-05-07T10:17:48Z

sorting header

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	{{NickelBank\|Was Team Plasma right?\|h2=So... Was Team Plasma Actually Right?}}		{{NickelBank\| Was Team Plasma right? \|h2 = So... Was Team Plasma Actually Right?
			\|nickel = YT/WasTeamPlasmaRight3-8 \|Contents=y}}

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	{{HueRoster\|P=channel\| {{YouTube\|@=KrillikVA\|KrillikVA}} }}		{{HueRoster\|P=channel\| {{YouTube\|@=KrillikVA\|KrillikVA}} }}

Reversedragon: categorical imperative / Anarchists won't listen to any proposition which isn't phrased in terms of ethics

2026-05-07T10:16:20Z

categorical imperative / Anarchists won't listen to any proposition which isn't phrased in terms of ethics

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	{{li\|I=S1/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}the balance between Pokémon and humanity		{{li\|I=S1/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}the balance between Pokémon and humanity

			{{li\|I=S1/IK\|Q=50,98}}evil beings only using other living things for their own gain / ... that you treat the humanity in your own person and in that of others (including their consent) as an end before a means ... (Kant) (counter-claim) / ({{9k\|RD/Q50,98}}) -> in the manga, Cobalion was upset about the lack or presence of this. to be fair though [[EC:9k/RD/Q11,6,38\|it is the Pokémon of justice]], so that vaguely {{em\|is}} its "job".

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/A\|Q=618}}N is an anarchist ({{game\|Pokémon}}) / N Harmonia is a charcoal anarchist ([[E:anarchism to restore Native American tribe\|tribal anarchisms]]; {{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|Fy\|fiction}}) / N is a [[E:Western-Marxism\|strawberry]] [[E:Fisherism is actually an anarchism\|anarchist]] ([[E:Fisherism (Western-Marxism)\|Fisherism]]) [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N_Harmonia] -> this is a more complicated claim than it sounds. the claim is that because N talks about Pokémon being raised in society as something that programs them to think and want certain things rather than what they "really" want, he is saying that society is unnatural while Free Will can only exist uncorrupted outside society. unpacking how that relates to anarchism takes longer, but there are various ways to argue that depending on what anarchism you're aiming at.<br/>		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/ES/A\|Q=618}}Anarchists won't listen to any proposition which isn't phrased in terms of ethics / Anarchists won't listen to any proposition about reality which isn't phrased in terms of individual ethics / ({{9k\|RD/Q3300}})

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/A\|Q=618}}N is an anarchist ({{game\|Pokémon}}) / N Harmonia is a charcoal anarchist ([[E:anarchism to restore Native American tribe\|tribal anarchisms]]; {{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|Fy\|fiction}}) / N is a [[E:Western-Marxism\|strawberry]] [[E:Fisherism is actually an anarchism\|anarchist]] ([[E:Fisherism (Western-Marxism)\|Fisherism]]) [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N_Harmonia] -> this is a more complicated claim than it sounds. the claim is that because N talks about Pokémon being raised in society as something that programs them to think and want certain things rather than what they "really" want, he is saying that society is unnatural while Free Will can only exist uncorrupted outside society. unpacking how that relates to anarchism takes longer, but there are various ways to argue that depending on what anarchism you're aiming at.<br/>
	case of: {{a\|assertion someone is an anarchist\|E=Q32,99\|sense=Q32,99/SB}}.		case of: {{a\|assertion someone is an anarchist\|E=Q32,99\|sense=Q32,99/SB}}.

Reversedragon: N is a Western Marxist / the balance between Pokémon and humanity

2026-05-07T04:22:06Z

N is a Western Marxist / the balance between Pokémon and humanity

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	{{li\|I=M3/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}a puzzle I cannot solve ({{book\|Pokémon Adventures}} [?], generation 5; motif) / Why do Black's Pokémon stay loyal? (question)		{{li\|I=M3/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}a puzzle I cannot solve ({{book\|Pokémon Adventures}} [?], generation 5; motif) / Why do Black's Pokémon stay loyal? (question)

			{{li\|I=S1/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}the balance between Pokémon and humanity

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}N is an anarchist / N Harmonia is a charcoal anarchist ([[E:anarchism to restore Native American tribe\|tribal anarchisms]]; {{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|Fy\|fiction}}) / N is a [[E:Western-Marxism\|strawberry]] [[E:Fisherism is actually an anarchism\|anarchist]] ([[E:Fisherism (Western-Marxism)\|Fisherism]]) [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N_Harmonia] -> this is a more complicated claim than it sounds. the claim is that because N talks about Pokémon being raised in society as something that programs them to think and want certain things rather than what they "really" want, he is saying that society is unnatural while Free Will can only exist uncorrupted outside society. unpacking how that relates to anarchism takes longer, but there are various ways to argue that depending on what anarchism you're aiming at.<br/>		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX/A\|Q=618}}N is an anarchist ({{game\|Pokémon}}) / N Harmonia is a charcoal anarchist ([[E:anarchism to restore Native American tribe\|tribal anarchisms]]; {{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|Fy\|fiction}}) / N is a [[E:Western-Marxism\|strawberry]] [[E:Fisherism is actually an anarchism\|anarchist]] ([[E:Fisherism (Western-Marxism)\|Fisherism]]) [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N_Harmonia] -> this is a more complicated claim than it sounds. the claim is that because N talks about Pokémon being raised in society as something that programs them to think and want certain things rather than what they "really" want, he is saying that society is unnatural while Free Will can only exist uncorrupted outside society. unpacking how that relates to anarchism takes longer, but there are various ways to argue that depending on what anarchism you're aiming at.<br/>
	case of: {{a\|assertion someone is an anarchist\|E=Q32,99\|sense=Q32,99/SB}}.		case of: {{a\|assertion someone is an anarchist\|E=Q32,99\|sense=Q32,99/SB}}.

			{{li\|I=S2/MX/W\|Q=618}}N is a Western Marxist ({{game\|Pokémon}}) / N Harmonia is the fantasy equivalent of a Western-Marxist — in an allegorical sense — because N looked at the system of humans recruiting Pokémon into Pokémon teams (corporations) to level them up and evolve them (gain "job experience" or social capital) at the expense of other Pokémon (thousands of people who don't get hired), and questioned why Pokémon (workers) should allow trainers (bourgeoisie) to decide everything that they value and believe (what industry they belong to, what they produce, whether the way a corporation operates is ethical) -> I am pretty burned out on following Pokémon "unironically", but this right here is the only kind of thing that can bring me back to Pokémon as a "plot thread" that I can't help tugging on that is absolutely gripping

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Reversedragon: N Harmonia is an anarchist ; time of video

2026-05-07T02:56:48Z

N Harmonia is an anarchist ; time of video

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	=== Links ===		=== Links ===
	* YouTube: {{YouTube\|datetime=\|NQjg0YM9UFw}} <!-- title: So...Was Team Plasma Actually Right? -->		* YouTube: {{YouTube\|datetime=2026-03-08T15:00:39Z\|NQjg0YM9UFw}} <!-- title: So...Was Team Plasma Actually Right? -->
	<!-- * transcript: {{a\|datetime=n.d.\|href=https://pastebin.com/raw/asdfsdf}} -->		<!-- * transcript: {{a\|datetime=n.d.\|href=https://pastebin.com/raw/asdfsdf}} -->

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/Fy/HAS\|tradition=HAS onto Fy\|Q=618}}Pokémon is a series about ethics ~~-> arguably true. whether I like it or not~~, ~~that's probably an intentional theme in the text.~~		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/Fy/HAS\|tradition=HAS onto Fy\|Q=618}}{{game\|Pokémon}} is about ethics / Pokémon is a series about ethics / ({{9k\|RD/Q54,96}})

	{{li\|I=S2/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}a puzzle I cannot solve (Pokémon generation 5)		{{li\|I=M3/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}a puzzle I cannot solve ({{book\|Pokémon Adventures}} [?], generation 5; motif) / Why do Black's Pokémon stay loyal? (question)

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	== Subjective themes ==		== Subjective themes ==
	~~<!--~~ <ol class="hue clean reset field_exstruct">		<ol class="hue clean reset field_exstruct">
	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/ES\|Q=618}}
	</li></ol~~> --~~>		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|Q=618}}N is an anarchist / N Harmonia is a charcoal anarchist ([[E:anarchism to restore Native American tribe\|tribal anarchisms]]; {{TTS\|MX\|meta-Marxism}} onto {{TTS\|Fy\|fiction}}) / N is a [[E:Western-Marxism\|strawberry]] [[E:Fisherism is actually an anarchism\|anarchist]] ([[E:Fisherism (Western-Marxism)\|Fisherism]]) [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N_Harmonia] -> this is a more complicated claim than it sounds. the claim is that because N talks about Pokémon being raised in society as something that programs them to think and want certain things rather than what they "really" want, he is saying that society is unnatural while Free Will can only exist uncorrupted outside society. unpacking how that relates to anarchism takes longer, but there are various ways to argue that depending on what anarchism you're aiming at.<br/>
			case of: {{a\|assertion someone is an anarchist\|E=Q32,99\|sense=Q32,99/SB}}.

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Reversedragon: a puzzle I cannot solve (Pokémon generation 5)

2026-05-07T01:56:21Z

a puzzle I cannot solve (Pokémon generation 5)

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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/Fy/HAS\|tradition=HAS onto Fy\|Q=618}}Pokémon is a series about ethics -> arguably true. whether I like it or not, that's probably an intentional theme in the text.		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/Fy/HAS\|tradition=HAS onto Fy\|Q=618}}Pokémon is a series about ethics -> arguably true. whether I like it or not, that's probably an intentional theme in the text.

			{{li\|I=S2/Fy\|tradition=Fy, PkMn\|Q=618}}a puzzle I cannot solve (Pokémon generation 5)

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Reversedragon: copy markup from other nickel

2026-05-07T01:55:40Z

copy markup from other nickel

New page

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=== Links ===
* YouTube: {{YouTube|datetime=|NQjg0YM9UFw}} 


=== Nickel usage or significance ===
* (add later)

== Motifs or claims ==
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{{li|start=y|I=S2/Fy/HAS|tradition=HAS onto Fy|Q=618}}Pokémon is a series about ethics -> arguably true. whether I like it or not, that's probably an intentional theme in the text.

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== Subjective themes ==


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