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	{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX, MX onto A, MX onto W\|Q=29,87\|Q2=2987\|h4 = The existiest will dominate all }} (United States) / Government is not the primary thing that limits freedom, nor are upper-class individuals or "hierarchy"; the factor with the greatest power to make ordinary things illegal is chunk competition -><br/>
	this is in response to claims that the United States is oppressed by "the army" or "false consciousness". it really isn't that. it's the raw ability of Tories to [[E:The existiest will rule\|out-exist others and kill others by existing more]]. they specifically use their {{em\|extra pile of existence}} to strike down threats, whether it's extra capitalist friends forming a Filament or extra money to expand the military and crush protestors or Third World countries or extra money for copyright lawyers to destroy Community and inconvenient competitors, or anything else. although each particular phenomenon has its own features there's also a level on which all of them are just the same thing. Until the day workers' states cover the world, only the existiest chunks of people have any sovereignty or freedom at all, even throughout the process of creating workers' states.
	~~<br/>~~
	With that said, this is one of the only actual threads for frustrated Trotskyists to pull on to get justice. In the end it's a little screwed up that although the 1930s Trotskyite conspirators essentially wanted to create their own Leninist country they were pushed out of society for not being good enough at creating the 'existiest' civilization as a competent Deng Xiaoping theorist might, and were just about treated as an inferior countable culture in a way that Bolshevism isn't supposed to do. If Trotskyists knew what chunk competition was, they could turn things around and try to show that populations chunk-competing over the top of each other is one of the critical things transition to Bolshevism is supposed to get rid of at some point, and that the correct outcome is localized Trotskyisms and other Marxisms existing in harmony, not killing each other's parties or theorists. Of course, this would require Trotskyists to give up on conspiracies and trying to destroy "Stalinism", and basically to be smarter than they've ever been. Honestly though. If they'd just accept the concept of a meta-Marxist International that Stalin is invited to but where every Marxism groups with itself and stands in solidarity with the others up to certain limits, they could sort of have everything they've wanted. "Stalinists" would apologize for the assassination and lingering fear of Trotskyites getting killed or imprisoned and everything if only the goals of every party would become that. it's that {{em\|the war between Marxisms isn't over}}. that's the problem.</li></ol>

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	~~== Ideology codes ==~~

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	~~{{HueNumber\|Q561}} <!-- en: MX onto A -->~~
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	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_mdem inline" data-~~tradition="MX~~" data-qid~~="29,87~~" value~~="2987~~" data-dimension~~=~~"S2">~~		{{li\|start=y\|I=S2/MX\|tradition=MX, MX onto A, MX onto W\|Q=29,87\|Q2=2987\|h4 = The existiest will dominate all }} (United States) / Government is not the primary thing that limits freedom, nor are upper-class individuals or "hierarchy"; the factor with the greatest power to make ordinary things illegal is chunk competition -><br/>
	~~<h4>~~Government is not the primary thing that limits freedom, nor are upper-class individuals or "hierarchy"; the factor with the greatest power to make ordinary things illegal is chunk competition</h4> -> this is in response to claims that the United States is oppressed by "the army" or "false consciousness". it really isn't that. it's the raw ability of Tories to [[E:The existiest will rule\|out-exist others and kill others by existing more]]. they specifically use their {{em\|extra pile of existence}} to strike down threats, whether it's extra capitalist friends forming a Filament or extra money to expand the military and crush protestors or Third World countries or extra money for copyright lawyers to destroy Community and inconvenient competitors, or anything else. although each particular phenomenon has its own features there's also a level on which all of them are just the same thing. Until the day workers' states cover the world, only the existiest chunks of people have any sovereignty or freedom at all, even throughout the process of creating workers' states.		this is in response to claims that the United States is oppressed by "the army" or "false consciousness". it really isn't that. it's the raw ability of Tories to [[E:The existiest will rule\|out-exist others and kill others by existing more]]. they specifically use their {{em\|extra pile of existence}} to strike down threats, whether it's extra capitalist friends forming a Filament or extra money to expand the military and crush protestors or Third World countries or extra money for copyright lawyers to destroy Community and inconvenient competitors, or anything else. although each particular phenomenon has its own features there's also a level on which all of them are just the same thing. Until the day workers' states cover the world, only the existiest chunks of people have any sovereignty or freedom at all, even throughout the process of creating workers' states.
	~~<br/>~~<br/>		<br/>
	With that said, this is one of the only actual threads for frustrated Trotskyists to pull on to get justice. In the end it's a little screwed up that although the 1930s Trotskyite conspirators essentially wanted to create their own Leninist country they were pushed out of society for not being good enough at creating the 'existiest' civilization as a competent Deng Xiaoping theorist might, and were just about treated as an inferior countable culture in a way that Bolshevism isn't supposed to do. If Trotskyists knew what chunk competition was, they could turn things around and try to show that populations chunk-competing over the top of each other is one of the critical things transition to Bolshevism is supposed to get rid of at some point, and that the correct outcome is localized Trotskyisms and other Marxisms existing in harmony, not killing each other's parties or theorists. Of course, this would require Trotskyists to give up on conspiracies and trying to destroy "Stalinism", and basically to be smarter than they've ever been. Honestly though. If they'd just accept the concept of a meta-Marxist International that Stalin is invited to but where every Marxism groups with itself and stands in solidarity with the others up to certain limits, they could sort of have everything they've wanted. "Stalinists" would apologize for the ~~assasination~~ and lingering fear of Trotskyites getting killed or imprisoned and everything if only the goals of every party would become that. it's that {{em\|the war between Marxisms isn't over}}. that's the problem.</li></ol>		With that said, this is one of the only actual threads for frustrated Trotskyists to pull on to get justice. In the end it's a little screwed up that although the 1930s Trotskyite conspirators essentially wanted to create their own Leninist country they were pushed out of society for not being good enough at creating the 'existiest' civilization as a competent Deng Xiaoping theorist might, and were just about treated as an inferior countable culture in a way that Bolshevism isn't supposed to do. If Trotskyists knew what chunk competition was, they could turn things around and try to show that populations chunk-competing over the top of each other is one of the critical things transition to Bolshevism is supposed to get rid of at some point, and that the correct outcome is localized Trotskyisms and other Marxisms existing in harmony, not killing each other's parties or theorists. Of course, this would require Trotskyists to give up on conspiracies and trying to destroy "Stalinism", and basically to be smarter than they've ever been. Honestly though. If they'd just accept the concept of a meta-Marxist International that Stalin is invited to but where every Marxism groups with itself and stands in solidarity with the others up to certain limits, they could sort of have everything they've wanted. "Stalinists" would apologize for the assassination and lingering fear of Trotskyites getting killed or imprisoned and everything if only the goals of every party would become that. it's that {{em\|the war between Marxisms isn't over}}. that's the problem.</li></ol>

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	</li><li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX" data-qid="29,87" value="2987" data-dimension="S2">Government is not the primary thing that limits freedom, nor are upper-class individuals or "hierarchy"; the factor with the greatest power to make ordinary things illegal is chunk competition -> this is in response to claims that the United States is oppressed by "the army" or "false consciousness". it really isn't that. it's the raw ability of Tories to [[E:The existiest will rule\|out-exist others and kill others by existing more]]. they specifically use their {{em\|extra pile of existence}} to strike down threats, whether it's extra capitalist friends forming a Filament or extra money to expand the military and crush protestors or Third World countries or extra money for copyright lawyers to destroy Community and inconvenient competitors, or anything else. although each particular phenomenon has its own features there's also a level on which all of them are just the same thing. Until the day workers' states cover the world, only the existiest chunks of people have any sovereignty or freedom at all, even throughout the process of creating workers' states.<br/>		</li><li class="field_mdem inline" data-tradition="MX" data-qid="29,87" value="2987" data-dimension="S2">
	With that said, this is one of the only actual threads for frustrated Trotskyists to pull on to get justice. In the end it's a little screwed up that although the 1930s Trotskyite conspirators essentially wanted to create their own Leninist country they were pushed out of society for not being good enough at creating the 'existiest' civilization as a competent Deng Xiaoping theorist might, and were just about treated as an inferior countable culture in a way that Bolshevism isn't supposed to do. If Trotskyists knew what chunk competition was, they could turn things around and try to show that populations chunk-competing over the top of each other is one of the critical things transition to Bolshevism is supposed to get rid of at some point, and that the correct outcome is localized Trotskyisms and other Marxisms existing in harmony, not killing each other's parties or theorists. Of course, this would require Trotskyists to give up on conspiracies and trying to destroy "Stalinism", and basically to be smarter than they've ever been. Honestly though. If they'd just accept the concept of a meta-Marxist International that Stalin is invited to but where every Marxism groups with itself and stands in solidarity with the others up to certain limits, they could sort of have everything they've wanted. "Stalinists" would apologize for the assasination and lingering fear of Trotskyites getting killed or imprisoned and everything if only the goals of every party would become that. it's that {{em\|the war between Marxisms isn't over}}. that's the problem.~~<br/>~~		<h4>Government is not the primary thing that limits freedom, nor are upper-class individuals or "hierarchy"; the factor with the greatest power to make ordinary things illegal is chunk competition</h4> -> this is in response to claims that the United States is oppressed by "the army" or "false consciousness". it really isn't that. it's the raw ability of Tories to [[E:The existiest will rule\|out-exist others and kill others by existing more]]. they specifically use their {{em\|extra pile of existence}} to strike down threats, whether it's extra capitalist friends forming a Filament or extra money to expand the military and crush protestors or Third World countries or extra money for copyright lawyers to destroy Community and inconvenient competitors, or anything else. although each particular phenomenon has its own features there's also a level on which all of them are just the same thing. Until the day workers' states cover the world, only the existiest chunks of people have any sovereignty or freedom at all, even throughout the process of creating workers' states.
	~~Capitalism is a system where cultures compete to be human + ?? = this.~~		<br/><br/>
			With that said, this is one of the only actual threads for frustrated Trotskyists to pull on to get justice. In the end it's a little screwed up that although the 1930s Trotskyite conspirators essentially wanted to create their own Leninist country they were pushed out of society for not being good enough at creating the 'existiest' civilization as a competent Deng Xiaoping theorist might, and were just about treated as an inferior countable culture in a way that Bolshevism isn't supposed to do. If Trotskyists knew what chunk competition was, they could turn things around and try to show that populations chunk-competing over the top of each other is one of the critical things transition to Bolshevism is supposed to get rid of at some point, and that the correct outcome is localized Trotskyisms and other Marxisms existing in harmony, not killing each other's parties or theorists. Of course, this would require Trotskyists to give up on conspiracies and trying to destroy "Stalinism", and basically to be smarter than they've ever been. Honestly though. If they'd just accept the concept of a meta-Marxist International that Stalin is invited to but where every Marxism groups with itself and stands in solidarity with the others up to certain limits, they could sort of have everything they've wanted. "Stalinists" would apologize for the assasination and lingering fear of Trotskyites getting killed or imprisoned and everything if only the goals of every party would become that. it's that {{em\|the war between Marxisms isn't over}}. that's the problem.</li></ol>
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== Main entry ==
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</li><li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX" data-qid="29,87" value="2987" data-dimension="S2">Government is not the primary thing that limits freedom, nor are upper-class individuals or "hierarchy"; the factor with the greatest power to make ordinary things illegal is chunk competition -> this is in response to claims that the United States is oppressed by "the army" or "false consciousness". it really isn't that. it's the raw ability of Tories to [[E:The existiest will rule|out-exist others and kill others by existing more]]. they specifically use their {{em|extra pile of existence}} to strike down threats, whether it's extra capitalist friends forming a Filament or extra money to expand the military and crush protestors or Third World countries or extra money for copyright lawyers to destroy Community and inconvenient competitors, or anything else. although each particular phenomenon has its own features there's also a level on which all of them are just the same thing. Until the day workers' states cover the world, only the existiest chunks of people have any sovereignty or freedom at all, even throughout the process of creating workers' states.<br/>
With that said, this is one of the only actual threads for frustrated Trotskyists to pull on to get justice. In the end it's a little screwed up that although the 1930s Trotskyite conspirators essentially wanted to create their own Leninist country they were pushed out of society for not being good enough at creating the 'existiest' civilization as a competent Deng Xiaoping theorist might, and were just about treated as an inferior countable culture in a way that Bolshevism isn't supposed to do. If Trotskyists knew what chunk competition was, they could turn things around and try to show that populations chunk-competing over the top of each other is one of the critical things transition to Bolshevism is supposed to get rid of at some point, and that the correct outcome is localized Trotskyisms and other Marxisms existing in harmony, not killing each other's parties or theorists. Of course, this would require Trotskyists to give up on conspiracies and trying to destroy "Stalinism", and basically to be smarter than they've ever been. Honestly though. If they'd just accept the concept of a meta-Marxist International that Stalin is invited to but where every Marxism groups with itself and stands in solidarity with the others up to certain limits, they could sort of have everything they've wanted. "Stalinists" would apologize for the assasination and lingering fear of Trotskyites getting killed or imprisoned and everything if only the goals of every party would become that. it's that {{em|the war between Marxisms isn't over}}. that's the problem.<br/>
Capitalism is a system where cultures compete to be human + ?? = this.

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== Ideology codes ==

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