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		<title>Reversedragon: sublation</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;sublation&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{li|I=S1/ML|Q=36,17|Q2=3617| h4 = bedtime bible stories except with Lenin }} / easy-to-follow bible retellings, only with Lenin  -&amp;gt;  I&amp;#039;d love that to be a book so bad. just imagine this by no means being mandatory yet being a thing you could read. but not knowing who would write such a thing I might have to settle for writing a single B-side chapter to demonstrate the concept&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{li|I=S1/ML|Q=36,17|Q2=3617| h4 = bedtime bible stories except with Lenin }} / easy-to-follow bible retellings, only with Lenin  -&amp;gt;  I&amp;#039;d love that to be a book so bad. just imagine this by no means being mandatory yet being a thing you could read. but not knowing who would write such a thing I might have to settle for writing a single B-side chapter to demonstrate the concept&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;{{li|I=S1/ML|Q=697|Q2=697|h4 = sublation }} / &quot;The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence&quot; (Marx)  -&amp;gt;  ... kingdoms are transformed into republics, and the kingdom or empire shape is partially preserved because the republic had to be made from something ... removing the feudal order allows the kingdom shape to be preserved in a new very different form as the republic for better or for worse.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;from time to time, I keep trying to explain sublation in terms of superhero shows. like Agumon turns into MetalGreymon and it&#039;s still Agumon but it&#039;s better even though it had to leave behind the characteristics of Agumon. Ultraman, which is a blatant failed Communism metaphor anyway, has all the people turning into big aliens with powers to represent that the society has been transformed, and with their new form they have become something greater by leaving behind what they were previously but they also can&#039;t totally get rid of it. you can also connect sublation to real-world evolution, and how it often takes a while for any particular ancestral characteristic to be lost and you always have some of them. but I like to point to superhero shows because they portray things happening without having to wait for them, this idea that something part of a bigger thing can simply change itself when change is needed.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Reversedragon</name></author>
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		<title>Reversedragon: Reversedragon moved page User:RD/9k/Q3517 to User:RD/9k/Q35,17: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title</title>
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		<updated>2026-03-11T05:46:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Reversedragon moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=User:RD/9k/Q3517&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;User:RD/9k/Q3517&quot;&gt;User:RD/9k/Q3517&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=User:RD/9k/Q35,17&quot; title=&quot;User:RD/9k/Q35,17&quot;&gt;User:RD/9k/Q35,17&lt;/a&gt;: Moving numbered Item to TTS-pronounceable title&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Reversedragon</name></author>
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		<title>Reversedragon: copy markup from 9k/Q33,89</title>
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		<updated>2026-03-11T05:45:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;copy markup from &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Special:PermanentLink/33225&quot; title=&quot;Special:PermanentLink/33225&quot;&gt;9k/Q33,89&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{NextNineThousand|PPPA=Leninist action show|User=RD|E=Q35,17|Contents=y}}&lt;br /&gt;
== Main entry ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;{{HueCSS}}&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ol class=&amp;quot;hue clean&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/ML|Q=35,17|Q2=3517|h4 = Leninist action show }} (motif) / action show, adventure book, board game/computer game, or other such fictional narrative which aligns itself with a particular fictionalized concept of defending the Second World or defending the national or global working class, whatever the exact equivalent in-universe may be  -&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
essentially this is the motif of tying action or adventure narratives to a historical process of Communist revolution or at least a national independence movement that is actually stated to be aligned with some kind of Second World within the text&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
the only really clear, nail-on-the-head example I can think of in existing things is {{film|Ultraman}} series, which is kind of a weak example really as far as what this motif {{em|could}} be.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
another much subtler example is the way that {{film|Steven Universe}} puts its concept of a vague transition out of empire in a historical context and it has one show that&amp;#039;s a historical era of semi- violent conflict and then a second calmer show that&amp;#039;s a historical era of what happens after that transition happened. it&amp;#039;s like, exactly the hollow outline of this motif, making a story arc with the same outward shape without putting the crimson content inside.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{li|start=y|I=S2/ML|Q=22,17|Q2=2217| h4 = Strikes are acts of courage }} / Some strike incidents have been absolutely metal / Strikes are perilous / ([[User:RD/9k/Q22,17|9k]])&lt;br /&gt;
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{{li|I=S1/ML|Q=36,17|Q2=3617| h4 = bedtime bible stories except with Lenin }} / easy-to-follow bible retellings, only with Lenin  -&amp;gt;  I&amp;#039;d love that to be a book so bad. just imagine this by no means being mandatory yet being a thing you could read. but not knowing who would write such a thing I might have to settle for writing a single B-side chapter to demonstrate the concept&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ideology codes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Next nine thousand (RD)]]  &amp;lt;!-- page ends here.  TTS-unfriendly numbers incoming&lt;br /&gt;
redirects:   [[User:RD/9k/Q3517]]&lt;br /&gt;
duplication hint:   copy markup from [[Special:PermanentLink/NNNN|9k/Q35,17]] --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Reversedragon</name></author>
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