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East Germany had the wrong internal structure according to Trotskyists

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	<li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX onto IV" data-qid="42,09" value="4209" data-dimension="S2">Trotskyism puts Leninism below rights / Trotskyism puts Leninism below [[E:tent of freedom poles\|tent of freedom poles]] / Trotskyism allows Leninism to fuse with orange anarchism because Trotskyists' Marxism already contains parts of the blue-anarchist framework of morality being fundamental and whenever they see another region of people having more individualized-human-rights-in-parallel together in a tent of freedom poles, they want to grab those human rights for their own region, irrespective of whether their country is currently losing human rights due to external empires or actually losing human rights due to its own internal structure and officials; Trotskyists internalize the loss of human rights as definitely being part of the internal structure of their country in hopes of being able to use Materialism inside the country to fix it, although in the case of Third World countries this is somewhat misguided -><br/>		<li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX onto IV" data-qid="42,09" value="4209" data-dimension="S2">Trotskyism puts Leninism below rights / Trotskyism puts Leninism below [[E:tent of freedom poles\|tent of freedom poles]] / Trotskyism allows Leninism to fuse with orange anarchism because Trotskyists' Marxism already contains parts of the blue-anarchist framework of [[E:Human moralities are a fundamental layer of material reality\|morality being fundamental]] and whenever they see another region of people having more individualized-human-rights-in-parallel together in a tent of freedom poles, they want to grab those human rights for their own region, irrespective of whether their country is currently losing human rights due to external empires or actually losing human rights due to its own internal structure and officials; Trotskyists internalize the loss of human rights as definitely being part of the internal structure of their country in hopes of being able to use Materialism inside the country to fix it, although in the case of Third World countries this is somewhat misguided -><br/>
	I feel like the same thing is true of Western-Marxism sometimes, except that when it's even more ineffective at breaking out of capitalism than Trotskyism (you can give Trotsky and Zinoviev a little credit for standing around in the Russian revolution and giving speeches, or whatnot), the moment it lets blue/orange anarchism invade it it pretty much loses all ability to do anything.		I feel like the same thing is true of Western-Marxism sometimes, except that when it's even more ineffective at breaking out of capitalism than Trotskyism (you can give Trotsky and Zinoviev a little credit for standing around in the Russian revolution and giving speeches, or whatnot), the moment it lets blue/orange anarchism invade it it pretty much loses all ability to do anything.

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			<li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX onto IV" data-qid="43,03" value="4303" data-dimension="S2">East Germany had the wrong internal structure according to Trotskyists / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]]) -> I used to think this proposition was more of a good thing than a bad thing. just a case of mainstream Marxism-Leninism having one idea of the internal structure and development of a country and then Trotskyism having another idea of structure and development, more hypotheses means more chances for one of them to be right (as much as it's probably not Trotskyists' hypothesis). now... I just have a horrible feeling that by trying to do "Materialist analysis" in their own flawed way, Trotskyists are actually blaming their own country for what other countries did and enacting 'counter-revolutionary defeatism'. as are a handful of Third World anti-Deng Maoists

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<li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX onto IV" data-qid="42,09" value="4209" data-dimension="S2">Trotskyism puts Leninism below rights / Trotskyism puts Leninism below [[E:tent of freedom poles|tent of freedom poles]] / Trotskyism allows Leninism to fuse with orange anarchism because Trotskyists' Marxism already contains parts of the blue-anarchist framework of morality being fundamental and whenever they see another region of people having more individualized-human-rights-in-parallel together in a tent of freedom poles, they want to grab those human rights for their own region, irrespective of whether their country is currently losing human rights due to external empires or actually losing human rights due to its own internal structure and officials; Trotskyists internalize the loss of human rights as definitely being part of the internal structure of their country in hopes of being able to use Materialism inside the country to fix it, although in the case of Third World countries this is somewhat misguided -><br/>
I feel like the same thing is true of Western-Marxism sometimes, except that when it's even more ineffective at breaking out of capitalism than Trotskyism (you can give Trotsky and Zinoviev a little credit for standing around in the Russian revolution and giving speeches, or whatnot), the moment it lets blue/orange anarchism invade it it pretty much loses all ability to do anything.

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