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Reversedragon: International Workers Alliance of Rank-and-File Committees

2026-09-09T23:54:02Z

International Workers Alliance of Rank-and-File Committees

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	{{li\|I=S1/IV\|tradition=\|Q=47,60\|Q2=4760}}International Workers Alliance of Rank-and-File Committees (IWA-RFC) [https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/04/24/pers-a24.html]		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|tradition=\|Q=47,60\|Q2=4760}}International Workers Alliance of Rank-and-File Committees (IWA-RFC) [https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/04/24/pers-a24.html] [https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/01/29/esds-j29.html]

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Reversedragon: The 1619 Project revisited

2026-09-08T23:15:57Z

The 1619 Project revisited

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	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4620" data-dimension="S0">Trotskyist group affiliated with the Fourth International of 1938		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4620" data-dimension="S0">Trotskyist group affiliated with the Fourth International of 1938
	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4621" data-dimension="Z">Socialist Workers' Party (United States) -> helped split the Fourth International into the ISFI and ICFI, funny enough		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4621" data-dimension="Z">Socialist Workers' Party (United States) -> helped split the Fourth International into the ISFI and ICFI, funny enough
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4622~~">??~~
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4623~~">??~~		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=46,22\|Q2=4622}}{{article\|The 1619 Project revisited: A retrospective evaluation in light of Trump's assault on democracy}} {{9k\|RD\|Q46,19}}
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4624~~">??~~		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=46,23\|Q2=4623}}{{article\|Nikole Hannah-Jones, race theory and the Holocaust}} {{9k\|RD\|Q46,19}}
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4625~~">??~~		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=46,24\|Q2=4624}}{{article\|The ideological foundations of Critical Race Theory}} {{9k\|RD\|Q46,19}}
			{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=46,25\|Q2=4625}}{{article\|{{book\|The New York Times 1619 Project: A New Origin Story}}: History as the emanation of race}} {{9k\|RD\|Q46,19}}

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	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4627">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4627">??

Reversedragon: Stalinism does not have socialism

2026-09-08T22:50:34Z

Stalinism does not have socialism

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	{{li\|I=S1/MX\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=41,91\|Q2=4191}}We live in a post-Trotsky world / ([[User:RD/9k/Q41,91\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S1/MX\|tradition=MX onto IV\|Q=41,91\|Q2=4191}}We live in a post-Trotsky world / ([[User:RD/9k/Q41,91\|9k]])

	{{li\|I=S2/MX~~\|tradition=MX onto IV~~\|Q=41,92\|Q2=4192}}Trotskyism-in-one-country would be upper-phase communism / The end state of Stalin's Marxism is the beginning of Trotskyism-in-one-country~~; with no errors, Stalin himself would create the conditions for Trotskyism-in-one-country / ([[User:~~RD~~/9k/Q4192~~\|~~9k]])~~		{{li\|I=F2/MX/ML\|Q=41,92\|Q2=4192}}Trotskyism-in-one-country would be upper-phase communism / The end state of Stalin's Marxism is the beginning of Trotskyism-in-one-country {{9k\|RD\|Q41,92}}
	{{li\|I=F2/ML~~\|tradition=MX onto IV~~\|Q=41,93\|Q2=4193}}Trotskyism does not have socialism / ~~As a named Marxism,~~ Trotskyism does not anticipate an era of socialist transition~~; anything that happens before a period of upper~~-phase communism ~~is not recognized as part of the named Marxism / ([[User:~~RD~~/9k/Q4192~~\|~~9k]])~~		{{li\|I=F2/MX/ML\|Q=41,93\|Q2=4193}}Trotskyism does not have socialism / Trotskyism does not anticipate an era of socialist transition {{9k\|RD\|Q41,92}}
			{{li\|I=S2/IV\|tradition=\|Q=41,94\|Q2=4194}}Stalinism does not have socialism / A Stalinist state will most likely never reach lower-phase communism {{9k\|RD\|Q41,92}}

	~~</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4194" data-dimension="S2">??~~
	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4195" data-dimension="S2">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4195" data-dimension="S2">??
	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4196" data-dimension="S2">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4196" data-dimension="S2">??

Reversedragon: prominent apparently-Trotskyist organizer

2026-09-06T21:32:59Z

prominent apparently-Trotskyist organizer

Reversedragon: stale rat bread

2026-09-06T21:22:58Z

stale rat bread

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	{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=42,27\|Q2=4227}}The central party is not correct {{em\|because}} it wins / The central party is not correct {{em\|because}} it wins; Marxists and labor movements <!-- labour movements --> push for parties with programs that will be correct in the future to win before they have won		{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=42,27\|Q2=4227}}The central party is not correct {{em\|because}} it wins / The central party is not correct {{em\|because}} it wins; Marxists and labor movements <!-- labour movements --> push for parties with programs that will be correct in the future to win before they have won

	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="42,28~~" value~~="4228~~" data-dimension="S">~~the boring Bread store {{~~YouTube~~\|~~C_wWvpXZTTg~~}} -> Dennis Prager's dumb, funny way of slamming state businesses. he says that private businesses don't necessarily not exist but then he gets upset about "boring" established state businesses anyway — kind of contradictory. if tiny businesses still exist why are the boring big ones even a problem to you? reading what he says generously, he might know that Marx implies a future historical period when the tiny ones go away to leave only the big ones as something a bit like republicanized micro-states inside nations and local-states and counties because people just don't need to do those things as businesses any more, and maybe do them for no money if they are really important, the way people just kind of put up educational videos on YouTube instead of getting hired to produce them.		{{li\|I=S1/LR\|Q=42,28\|Q2=4228}}the boring Bread store {{9k\|RD\|Q42,36}}
	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="42,29~~" value~~="4229~~" data-remark="4236 stale rat bread" data-dimension="S">~~fonts as culture of The Government [https://www.comradegallery.com/journal/fonts-typography-and-freedom-ussr] / Stalinist font / font of The Totalitarian State -> I have heard this trope all my life and I am so sick of it. what is the big deal with "Stalinist fonts" and what is so bad about them. fonts standardize all the time without Stalin, ~~considering how there is this one font on signs that everyone knows, I think it's Helvetica. this concept is so stupid.~~		{{li\|I=S1/ES\|Q=42,29\|Q2=4229}}fonts as culture of The Government {{9k\|RD\|Q42,36}}

	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4230" data-qid="42,30" data-dimension="S2">Stalin built the country wrong / Stalin's government built the country with structures that are bad although we are not specifying what the actual error is / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4230" data-qid="42,30" data-dimension="S2">Stalin built the country wrong / Stalin's government built the country with structures that are bad although we are not specifying what the actual error is / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])
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	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4235" data-qid="42,35" data-dimension="S2">The internal shape of a workers' state leads to buffer state conflicts / There is something about the internal activity of a workers' state which can cause it to participate in international war or not / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4235" data-qid="42,35" data-dimension="S2">The internal shape of a workers' state leads to buffer state conflicts / There is something about the internal activity of a workers' state which can cause it to participate in international war or not / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])

	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="42,36~~" value~~="4236~~" data-dimension="S">~~[[E:Q4236\|I'm eating stale rat bread and I can't take it any more]] ~~/ I'm eating the stale rat bread and I can't~~ {{~~censor~~\|~~fucking~~}} take it any more [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cET8bJ2xlUA&t=237s] -> when somebody attempts to criticize corporations for having made bad "culture" that is bad precisely because it intrudes on a person's individual Lived Experience and not because the structure and function of the corporation has any effect on the larger society such as the health of workers or impact on the internal functioning of socially-linked communities that decide to tie themselves to the product. Žižek is guilty of this: he makes strange claims that Lenin and Stalin couldn't create good "culture", which make no sense <em>until</em> you realize he is trying to make a Marxism that has nothing to do with workers and is all about the Lived Experience of existing in the midst of a bunch of bad products — or when it stoops to being about workers is about bad working conditions being <em>a bad individualized Lived Experience</em>. the Zinovievist accusation of bad "culture" is strange. it's like wrong culture is about the consumer's Lived Experience, but the problems with corporations essentially become about corporations Freely Willing to do the wrong thing when they could have Freely Decided to do better. some chunks of Existentialists seem to conceptualize literally every movement as democulture including the function of unions and so-called ""corporate greed"". they don't even believe in Menshevism and political parties. they think all society is just made of good-idea orthodoxies stomping bad people and forcing them to behave better, squashing bad people's otherwise sacred Lived Experiences and forcing them to exist better when they weren't existing good.		{{li\|I=S1/IV/LR\|Q=42,36\|Q2=4236}}[[E:Q4236\|I'm eating stale rat bread and I can't take it any more]] {{9k\|RD\|Q42,36}}

	{{li\|I=S1/DX\|tradition=Zv onto DX onto STM\|Q=42,37\|Q2=4237}}the science bureaucracy / ({{9k\|RD/Q42,34}})		{{li\|I=S1/DX\|tradition=Zv onto DX onto STM\|Q=42,37\|Q2=4237}}the science bureaucracy / ({{9k\|RD/Q42,34}})
	{{li\|I=S1/Zv\|tradition=Zv onto DX onto STM\|Q=42,38\|Q2=4238}}science Trotskyites / ({{9k\|RD/Q42,34}})		{{li\|I=S1/Zv\|tradition=Zv onto DX onto STM\|Q=42,38\|Q2=4238}}science Trotskyites / ({{9k\|RD/Q42,34}})

Reversedragon: George Orwell would not have thought about nationalism the same way if he had been Black

2026-09-06T11:51:02Z

George Orwell would not have thought about nationalism the same way if he had been Black

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	</li><li class="field_anarchy" value="4311" data-dimension="S2">Slavoj Žižek is an anarchist / Slavoj Žižek is not a Trotskyist in any sense and can only be termed either an anarchist or an [[:Category:Existentialist-Structuralist tradition\|Existentialist]] -> this is true if Q43,12 is true. Slavoj Žižek is "a Trotskyist" if Zinovievism is Trotskyism. if Zinovievism, when separated from the small number of Leninist theorists who would lead it and claim it is Leninism, is definitely an anarchism, then Žižek is not a Trotskyist. this proposition has the charcoal swatch because I saw an anarchist text define "[[Term:anarcho-nihilism\|anarcho-nihilism]]" and it seems very similar to the definition of Zinovievism although I honestly do not have extensive enough historical background information about either of them to verify that they're the same.		</li><li class="field_anarchy" value="4311" data-dimension="S2">Slavoj Žižek is an anarchist / Slavoj Žižek is not a Trotskyist in any sense and can only be termed either an anarchist or an [[:Category:Existentialist-Structuralist tradition\|Existentialist]] -> this is true if Q43,12 is true. Slavoj Žižek is "a Trotskyist" if Zinovievism is Trotskyism. if Zinovievism, when separated from the small number of Leninist theorists who would lead it and claim it is Leninism, is definitely an anarchism, then Žižek is not a Trotskyist. this proposition has the charcoal swatch because I saw an anarchist text define "[[Term:anarcho-nihilism\|anarcho-nihilism]]" and it seems very similar to the definition of Zinovievism although I honestly do not have extensive enough historical background information about either of them to verify that they're the same.
	</li~~><li value~~=~~"4312" data-remark~~=~~"Q1312 'street protest' as anarchist number" class~~=~~"field_mdem" data-dimension="S2">~~Early Trotskyism was actually an anarchism ~~/ Zinovievism is an instance of anarchism, not a double-vulgarized Trotskyism (black swatch instead of orange swatch, charcoal instead of flame; [[Term:Zinovievism~~\|meta-Marxist terminology]]) / The functional purpose of 1900s Trotskyism was to create anarchist movements which would then attempt to realize a world Anarchism -> I know this sounds <s class="censor">batshit</s>. but this claim is specifically making a historical argument. it begins with the claim that the Trotskyite conspiracy was not really practicing Leninism and mostly lying about being Leninists — this is a relatively fair thing to say. from there it observes the results of Trotskyist movements, which tended to disintegrate into something of a disorganized mess. Spain contained something of an attempt at Marxism or "a socialist party" but is much more famous for anarchists, and George Orwell. Trotsky and ex-Trotskyists like Orwell became weapons for First-World countries to allege that Trotskyites never were Leninists and that was a good thing. Ted Grant shows up trying to create a hypothetical Leninist Trotskyism that never existed. a little later, schizoanalysts show up trying to explain how countries are made of organic assemblies of parts (is this true? maybe) and implying that the components of any particular entity are arbitrary and throughout history periodically change. core concepts of schizoanalysis become wildly popular. schizoanalytic "science" of joining and separating entities merges into anarchism to supposedly create a practice of non-ideological unity of demographic identities. schizoanalysis-influenced crowds continue to "non-ideologically" unify with Third World anticommunists and bash Third-World countries. so overall, the claim here is that because Zinovievism and modern anarchisms share the characteristics of having no real ideology or end goal, allowing chains of First-World countries and defectors to bash whole Third World countries, and generally having a distinctly international scope, modern anarchisms existed as early as Zinovievism, and it was basically concealing the emergence of modern anarchisms inside it. I'm not at all sure that this claim is true. but if it somehow turns out it is, the Zinovievism swatch can be changed to charcoal. the Ted-Grant-ist Trotskyism swatch can stay orange.
			{{li\|I=S2/ML\|Q=43,12\|Q2=4312}}Early Trotskyism was actually an anarchism {{9k\|RD\|Q4312}}

	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4313" data-dimension="S">Kalinin as Trotsky's actor / Kalinin in place of Trotsky -> every so often with independent videos you see a video accidentally use a picture of Kalinin to represent Trotsky, as if he's not Trotsky but he plays him on TV. as far as I know this doesn't really happen with actual Trotskyist parties, thankfully.		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4313" data-dimension="S">Kalinin as Trotsky's actor / Kalinin in place of Trotsky -> every so often with independent videos you see a video accidentally use a picture of Kalinin to represent Trotsky, as if he's not Trotsky but he plays him on TV. as far as I know this doesn't really happen with actual Trotskyist parties, thankfully.
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	{{li\|I=S1/MX~~/IV~~\|Q=43,21\|Q2=4321\|rem=post revolution}}international bank of Trotskyism (hypothetical; motif) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q4321\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S1/MX\|Q=43,21\|Q2=4321\|rem=post revolution}}international bank of Trotskyism (hypothetical; motif) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q4321\|9k]])
	{{li\|I=S1/MX~~/IV~~\|Q=43,22\|Q2=4322}}international health care program (hypothetical; motif) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q4321\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S1/MX\|Q=43,22\|Q2=4322}}international health care program (hypothetical; motif) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q4321\|9k]])
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	{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=43,50\|Q2=4350}}Trotskyism and postmodernism ~~/ (~~{{9k\|RD/Q43,50}})		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=43,50\|Q2=4350}}Trotskyism and postmodernism {{9k\|RD\|Q43,50}}
	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4351" data-dimension="S2">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4351" data-dimension="S2">??
	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4352" data-dimension="S2">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4352" data-dimension="S2">??
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4353~~" data-dimension="Z">~~A letter to Trotskyists throughout the world [https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/10/open-o21.html] {{a\|title=A letter to Trotskyists throughout the world\|href=https://archive.is/JCdgs}}
			{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=43,53\|Q2=4353}}A letter to Trotskyists throughout the world (James P. Cannon, 1953) [https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/10/open-o21.html] {{a\|title=A letter to Trotskyists throughout the world\|href=https://archive.is/JCdgs}}

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	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4384" data-dimension="S2">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4384" data-dimension="S2">??
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4385~~" data-dimension~~="S2~~">??~~
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4386~~" data-dimension="S2">??~~		{{li\|I=S2/MX/RG\|Q=43,85\|Q2=4385}}George Orwell would not have thought about nationalism the same way if he had been Black {{9k\|RD\|Q43,91}}
			{{li\|I=S2/MX/LR\|Q=43,86\|Q2=4386}}George Orwell would have thought about nationalism the same way if he had been born in China {{9k\|RD\|Q43,91}}

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	{{li\|I=S1/MX\|Q=43,90\|Q2=4390}}the James Cannon of Britain {{9k\|RD\|Q43,90}}		{{li\|I=S1/MX\|Q=43,90\|Q2=4390}}the James Cannon of Britain {{9k\|RD\|Q43,90}}
	{{li\|I=F1/ES\|Q=43,91\|Q2=4391}}nationalism (George Orwell) {{9k\|RD\|Q43,91}}		{{li\|I=F1/ES\|Q=43,91\|Q2=4391}}nationalism (George Orwell) {{9k\|RD\|Q43,91}}

	{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=43,92\|Q2=4392}}permanent revolution (Trotskyism) {{9k\|RD\|Q43,92}}		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=43,92\|Q2=4392}}permanent revolution (Trotskyism) {{9k\|RD\|Q43,92}}
			{{li\|I=S1/IV/DFy\|Q=43,93\|Q2=4393}}Trotskyist reading of {{book\|Animal Farm}} {{9k\|RD\|Q19,83}}
	{{li\|I=S1/MX/DFy\|Q=43,93\|Q2=4393}}Trotskyist reading of {{book\|Animal Farm}} ~~-> the concept of reading Animal Farm as an argument for international permanent revolution.~~

	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4394" data-dimension="S2">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4394" data-dimension="S2">??

Reversedragon: Stalin accidentally eventuated James Morasco

2026-09-06T03:16:45Z

Stalin accidentally eventuated James Morasco

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	</li><li class="field_trotsky" data-qid="40,43" value="4043" data-dimension="S2">Socialism-in-one-country is basically Existentialism with countries -> [https://university.marxist.com/en/imt-history Ted Grant]		</li><li class="field_trotsky" data-qid="40,43" value="4043" data-dimension="S2">Socialism-in-one-country is basically Existentialism with countries -> [https://university.marxist.com/en/imt-history Ted Grant]
	</li><li class="field_trotsky" data-qid="40,44" value="4044" data-dimension="S2">Hegemony politics is reformism and Gramscians are a bunch of bureaucrats -> [https://university.marxist.com/en/imt-history Ted Grant]		</li><li class="field_trotsky" data-qid="40,44" value="4044" data-dimension="S2">Hegemony politics is reformism and Gramscians are a bunch of bureaucrats -> [https://university.marxist.com/en/imt-history Ted Grant]
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4045">??
			{{li\|I=S2/MX\|Q=40,45\|Q2=4045}}Stalin accidentally eventuated James Morasco -> the claim that James Morasco's confused understanding of executives, unions, and bureaucrats as all being the same thing ultimately traces back to Stalinist understandings of Marxism.

	{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=40,46\|Q2=4046}}Revisionism is when Marxist parties aren't orange -> Cannon, Pablo, ICFI. this seems like a terrible stance to take if you want as many regions of the world in an era of socialism as possible.		{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=40,46\|Q2=4046}}Revisionism is when Marxist parties aren't orange -> Cannon, Pablo, ICFI. this seems like a terrible stance to take if you want as many regions of the world in an era of socialism as possible.

Reversedragon: Pig state

2026-09-05T03:42:03Z

Pig state

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	{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=40,36\|Q2=4036}}Stalin and Monokuma / Stalin and death games / Stalin's government supposedly or apparently putting pressure on all people to send each other to prison so the real criminals will confess {{9k\|RD\|Q40,36}}		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=40,36\|Q2=4036}}Stalin and Monokuma / Stalin and death games / Stalin's government supposedly or apparently putting pressure on all people to send each other to prison so the real criminals will confess {{9k\|RD\|Q40,36}}

	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="40,37~~" value~~="4037~~" data-dimension="S">~~Pigs theory / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=40,37\|Q2=4037}}Pigs theory / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])
	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_gramsci" data-tradition="~~DX~~" data-qid~~="40,38~~" value~~="4038~~" data-dimension="S">~~Pig state / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S1/DX\|Q=40,38\|Q2=4038}}Pig state / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])
			{{li\|I=S2/MX/DX\|Q=40,39\|Q2=4039}}A Pig state isn't the end of the world / A Pig state is not the end of the world / Orwell handed Russians to butcher knives {{9k\|RD\|Q1983}}
	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_gramsci" data-tradition="~~DX~~" data-qid~~="40,39~~" value~~="4039~~" data-dimension="S2">~~A Pig state isn't the end of the world / A Pig state is not the end of the world / Orwell handed Russians to butcher knives ~~/ Orwell handed Ukrainians to butcher knives /~~ {{~~book~~\|Animal Farm}} is a reality where George Orwell saw an effort to take a living, breathing, thinking ethnic group and cut them up with butcher's knives and eat them and didn't think it was worth it to do everything to resist that -> when you think about it hard enough, {{book\|~~Animal Farm~~}}'s setting should make the choice to stick to Bolshevism way easier rather than any harder. it really says something about the people who would read or write a book like this when they can't see it as arguing Marxism by accident.

	{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=40,40\|Q2=4040}}Stalin accidentally eventuated Dengism / ({{9k\|RD/Q4040}})		{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=40,40\|Q2=4040}}Stalin accidentally eventuated Dengism / ({{9k\|RD/Q4040}})

Reversedragon: abolitionism (Western-Marxism)

2026-09-04T08:11:49Z

abolitionism (Western-Marxism)

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	{{li\|I=Z1/BP\|Q=41,66\|Q2=4166}}BlackPantherism / Black Panther Party's theory of revolution / Black Panther Party's [[E:apparent form of Marxism\|Marxism]] / ([[User:RD/9k/Q41,66\|9k]])		{{li\|I=Z1/BP\|Q=41,66\|Q2=4166}}BlackPantherism / Black Panther Party's theory of revolution / Black Panther Party's [[E:apparent form of Marxism\|Marxism]] / ([[User:RD/9k/Q41,66\|9k]])
			{{li\|I=S1/A/BP\|Q=41,67\|Q2=4167}}abolitionism (Western-Marxism) / abolition (generic)

	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4167" data-dimension="S2">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4167" data-dimension="S2">??

Reversedragon: movement blocked by Monty Hall problem

2026-09-04T04:39:54Z

movement blocked by Monty Hall problem

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	{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=42,27\|Q2=4227}}The central party is not correct {{em\|because}} it wins / The central party is not correct {{em\|because}} it wins; Marxists and labor movements <!-- labour movements --> push for parties with programs that will be correct in the future to win before they have won		{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=42,27\|Q2=4227}}The central party is not correct {{em\|because}} it wins / The central party is not correct {{em\|because}} it wins; Marxists and labor movements <!-- labour movements --> push for parties with programs that will be correct in the future to win before they have won

	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="42,28~~" value~~="4228~~" data-dimension="S">~~the boring Bread store {{~~YouTube~~\|~~C_wWvpXZTTg~~}} -> Dennis Prager's dumb, funny way of slamming state businesses. he says that private businesses don't necessarily not exist but then he gets upset about "boring" established state businesses anyway — kind of contradictory. if tiny businesses still exist why are the boring big ones even a problem to you? reading what he says generously, he might know that Marx implies a future historical period when the tiny ones go away to leave only the big ones as something a bit like republicanized micro-states inside nations and local-states and counties because people just don't need to do those things as businesses any more, and maybe do them for no money if they are really important, the way people just kind of put up educational videos on YouTube instead of getting hired to produce them.		{{li\|I=S1/LR\|Q=42,28\|Q2=4228}}the boring Bread store {{9k\|RD\|Q42,36}}
	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="42,29~~" value~~="4229~~" data-remark="4236 stale rat bread" data-dimension="S">~~fonts as culture of The Government [https://www.comradegallery.com/journal/fonts-typography-and-freedom-ussr] / Stalinist font / font of The Totalitarian State -> I have heard this trope all my life and I am so sick of it. what is the big deal with "Stalinist fonts" and what is so bad about them. fonts standardize all the time without Stalin, ~~considering how there is this one font on signs that everyone knows, I think it's Helvetica. this concept is so stupid.~~		{{li\|I=S1/ES\|Q=42,29\|Q2=4229}}fonts as culture of The Government {{9k\|RD\|Q42,36}}

	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4230" data-qid="42,30" data-dimension="S2">Stalin built the country wrong / Stalin's government built the country with structures that are bad although we are not specifying what the actual error is / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4230" data-qid="42,30" data-dimension="S2">Stalin built the country wrong / Stalin's government built the country with structures that are bad although we are not specifying what the actual error is / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])
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	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4235" data-qid="42,35" data-dimension="S2">The internal shape of a workers' state leads to buffer state conflicts / There is something about the internal activity of a workers' state which can cause it to participate in international war or not / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4235" data-qid="42,35" data-dimension="S2">The internal shape of a workers' state leads to buffer state conflicts / There is something about the internal activity of a workers' state which can cause it to participate in international war or not / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])

	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="42,36~~" value~~="4236~~" data-dimension="S">~~[[E:Q4236\|I'm eating stale rat bread and I can't take it any more]] ~~/ I'm eating the stale rat bread and I can't~~ {{~~censor~~\|~~fucking~~}} take it any more [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cET8bJ2xlUA&t=237s] -> when somebody attempts to criticize corporations for having made bad "culture" that is bad precisely because it intrudes on a person's individual Lived Experience and not because the structure and function of the corporation has any effect on the larger society such as the health of workers or impact on the internal functioning of socially-linked communities that decide to tie themselves to the product. Žižek is guilty of this: he makes strange claims that Lenin and Stalin couldn't create good "culture", which make no sense <em>until</em> you realize he is trying to make a Marxism that has nothing to do with workers and is all about the Lived Experience of existing in the midst of a bunch of bad products — or when it stoops to being about workers is about bad working conditions being <em>a bad individualized Lived Experience</em>. the Zinovievist accusation of bad "culture" is strange. it's like wrong culture is about the consumer's Lived Experience, but the problems with corporations essentially become about corporations Freely Willing to do the wrong thing when they could have Freely Decided to do better. some chunks of Existentialists seem to conceptualize literally every movement as democulture including the function of unions and so-called ""corporate greed"". they don't even believe in Menshevism and political parties. they think all society is just made of good-idea orthodoxies stomping bad people and forcing them to behave better, squashing bad people's otherwise sacred Lived Experiences and forcing them to exist better when they weren't existing good.		{{li\|I=S1/IV/LR\|Q=42,36\|Q2=4236}}[[E:Q4236\|I'm eating stale rat bread and I can't take it any more]] {{9k\|RD\|Q42,36}}

	{{li\|I=S1/DX\|tradition=Zv onto DX onto STM\|Q=42,37\|Q2=4237}}the science bureaucracy / ({{9k\|RD/Q42,34}})		{{li\|I=S1/DX\|tradition=Zv onto DX onto STM\|Q=42,37\|Q2=4237}}the science bureaucracy / ({{9k\|RD/Q42,34}})
	{{li\|I=S1/Zv\|tradition=Zv onto DX onto STM\|Q=42,38\|Q2=4238}}science Trotskyites / ({{9k\|RD/Q42,34}})		{{li\|I=S1/Zv\|tradition=Zv onto DX onto STM\|Q=42,38\|Q2=4238}}science Trotskyites / ({{9k\|RD/Q42,34}})

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	{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=40,36\|Q2=4036}}Stalin and Monokuma / Stalin and death games / Stalin's government supposedly or apparently putting pressure on all people to send each other to prison so the real criminals will confess {{9k\|RD\|Q40,36}}		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=40,36\|Q2=4036}}Stalin and Monokuma / Stalin and death games / Stalin's government supposedly or apparently putting pressure on all people to send each other to prison so the real criminals will confess {{9k\|RD\|Q40,36}}

	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" data-qid~~="40,37~~" value~~="4037~~" data-dimension="S">~~Pigs theory / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S1/IV\|Q=40,37\|Q2=4037}}Pigs theory / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])
	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_gramsci" data-tradition="~~DX~~" data-qid~~="40,38~~" value~~="4038~~" data-dimension="S">~~Pig state / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])		{{li\|I=S1/DX\|Q=40,38\|Q2=4038}}Pig state / ([[User:RD/9k/Q28,92\|9k]])
			{{li\|I=S2/MX/DX\|Q=40,39\|Q2=4039}}A Pig state isn't the end of the world / A Pig state is not the end of the world / Orwell handed Russians to butcher knives {{9k\|RD\|Q1983}}
	</li~~><li class~~=~~"field_gramsci" data-tradition="~~DX~~" data-qid~~="40,39~~" value~~="4039~~" data-dimension="S2">~~A Pig state isn't the end of the world / A Pig state is not the end of the world / Orwell handed Russians to butcher knives ~~/ Orwell handed Ukrainians to butcher knives /~~ {{~~book~~\|Animal Farm}} is a reality where George Orwell saw an effort to take a living, breathing, thinking ethnic group and cut them up with butcher's knives and eat them and didn't think it was worth it to do everything to resist that -> when you think about it hard enough, {{book\|~~Animal Farm~~}}'s setting should make the choice to stick to Bolshevism way easier rather than any harder. it really says something about the people who would read or write a book like this when they can't see it as arguing Marxism by accident.

	{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=40,40\|Q2=4040}}Stalin accidentally eventuated Dengism / ({{9k\|RD/Q4040}})		{{li\|I=S2/IV\|Q=40,40\|Q2=4040}}Stalin accidentally eventuated Dengism / ({{9k\|RD/Q4040}})

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	{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=41,04\|Q2=4104}}[[E:Trotskyism\|Trotskyism]] (top-level category) / Leninism (Trotskyist movement) / revolutionary socialism (Trotskyist movement) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q41,04\|9k]])		{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=41,04\|Q2=4104}}[[E:Trotskyism\|Trotskyism]] (top-level category) / Leninism (Trotskyist movement) / revolutionary socialism (Trotskyist movement) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q41,04\|9k]])
	</li><li class="field_gramsci" data-qid="41,05" value="4105" data-dimension="Z">Juche-socialism (North Korea) / <s>leadership socialism</s> (mistranslation) / socialism in one country (generic)		</li><li class="field_gramsci" data-qid="41,05" value="4105" data-dimension="Z">Juche-socialism (North Korea) / <s>leadership socialism</s> (mistranslation) / socialism in one country (generic)
	</li><li class="field_ML" data-qid="41,06" value="4106" data-dimension="Z">Maoism / ([[User:RD/9k/Q41,06\|9k]])		</li><li class="field_ML field_mao" data-qid="41,06" value="4106" data-dimension="Z">Maoism / ([[User:RD/9k/Q41,06\|9k]])
	</li><li class="field_gramsci" data-qid="41,07" value="4107" data-dimension="Z">[[E:Deng Xiaoping Thought\|Deng Xiaoping Thought]] / Dengism / socialism with Chinese characteristics (Deng era)		</li><li class="field_gramsci" data-qid="41,07" value="4107" data-dimension="Z">[[E:Deng Xiaoping Thought\|Deng Xiaoping Thought]] / Dengism / socialism with Chinese characteristics (Deng era)
	</li><li class="field_gramsci" data-qid="41,08" value="4108" data-dimension="Z">Western Marxism		</li><li class="field_gramsci field_althusser" data-qid="41,08" value="4108" data-dimension="Z">Western Marxism
	</li><li class="field_gramsci" data-qid="41,09" value="4109" data-dimension="Z">Gramscianism / Antonio Gramsci's Marxism		</li><li class="field_gramsci field_althusser" data-qid="41,09" value="4109" data-dimension="Z">Gramscianism / Antonio Gramsci's Marxism
	{{li\|I=Z1/ML\|Q=41,10\|Q2=4110}}Bordigism (named Marxism) / Amadeo Bordiga and ICP's Marxism / ({{9k\|RD/Q41,10}})		{{li\|I=Z1/ML\|Q=41,10\|Q2=4110}}Bordigism (named Marxism) / Amadeo Bordiga and ICP's Marxism / ({{9k\|RD/Q41,10}})

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	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4927">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4927">??
	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4928">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4928">??
	</~~li><li class~~=~~"field_trotsky" value~~="4929">??
			{{li\|I=Z0/LR\|Q=49,29\|Q2=4929}}prominent apparently-Trotskyist organizer / prominent apparently-Trotskyist theorist or organizer -> there are entirely too many of these parties.
	</li><li class="field_gramsci" value="4930">prominent Western-Marxist theorist / prominent Western Marxist theorist or organizer -> I add "or organizer" to cover edge cases but let's be honest, there are very few of them who went all the way to being classifiable as Leninist organizers on any level. one of the most notable characteristics of Western-Marxism is that nearly all of them are purely theorists. except for Gramsci, and possibly the leaders of East Germany if they count as Gramscianism.<br/>		</li><li class="field_gramsci" value="4930">prominent Western-Marxist theorist / prominent Western Marxist theorist or organizer -> I add "or organizer" to cover edge cases but let's be honest, there are very few of them who went all the way to being classifiable as Leninist organizers on any level. one of the most notable characteristics of Western-Marxism is that nearly all of them are purely theorists. except for Gramsci, and possibly the leaders of East Germany if they count as Gramscianism.<br/>
	note: do not enter Western-Marxist propositions into the 4000s. there is already a space for them in the 2000s and 3000s. Gramsci or East Germany doing Leninism is the exception		note: do not enter Western-Marxist propositions into the 4000s. there is already a space for them in the 2000s and 3000s. Gramsci or East Germany doing Leninism is the exception
	</li><li class="field_gramsci" value="4931">Antonio Gramsci		</li><li class="field_gramsci" value="4931">Antonio Gramsci
	</li><li class="field_gramsci" value="4932">Louis Althusser		</li><li class="field_gramsci field_althusser" value="4932">Louis Althusser
	</li><li class="field_gramsci" value="4933">Mark Fisher		</li><li class="field_gramsci field_althusser" value="4933">Mark Fisher
	{{li\|I=Z1/W\|Q=49,34\|Q2=4934}}György Lukács (1885–1971) {{9k\|RD\|Q4934}}		{{li\|I=Z1/W\|Q=49,34\|Q2=4934}}György Lukács (1885–1971) {{9k\|RD\|Q4934}}
	{{li\|I=Z1/W\|tradition=W\|Q=49,35\|Q2=4935}}Stuart Hall -> Western-Marxist cultural theorist; [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Hall_(cultural_theorist)] one of many "Fisherist" philosophers writing about how mass media supposedly program us to be prejudiced when we wouldn't have been otherwise [https://thesociologyguy.com/2025/10/27/stuart-hall-understanding-the-media-power-and-representation/]		{{li\|I=Z1/W\|tradition=W\|Q=49,35\|Q2=4935}}Stuart Hall -> Western-Marxist cultural theorist; [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Hall_(cultural_theorist)] one of many "Fisherist" philosophers writing about how mass media supposedly program us to be prejudiced when we wouldn't have been otherwise [https://thesociologyguy.com/2025/10/27/stuart-hall-understanding-the-media-power-and-representation/]
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	{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=49,41\|Q2=4941}}Leon Trotsky -> Soviet Union / miscellaneous; Fourth International		{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=49,41\|Q2=4941}}Leon Trotsky -> Soviet Union / miscellaneous; Fourth International
	{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=49,42\|Q2=4942}}Rosa Luxemburg -> Germany		{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=49,42\|Q2=4942}}Rosa Luxemburg -> Germany
	{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=49,43\|Q2=4943}}Ted Grant -> United Kingdom (?)		{{li\|I=Z1/IV/LR\|Q=49,43\|Q2=4943}}Ted Grant -> United Kingdom (?)
	{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=49,44\|Q2=4944}}James P. Cannon -> United States; Socialist Workers' Party		{{li\|I=Z1/IV\|Q=49,44\|Q2=4944}}James P. Cannon -> United States; Socialist Workers' Party
	</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4945">??		</li><li class="field_trotsky" value="4945">??