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	</noinclude>I ([[User:Reversedragon\|R.D.]]) am a bit obsessive about numbers. I had a problem with the idea of Items having small numbers that at the same time were arbitrary. What would be number 10?? What would be number 1??<br />		I ([[User:Reversedragon\|R.D.]]) am a bit obsessive about numbers. I had a problem with the idea of Items having small numbers that at the same time were arbitrary. What would be number 10?? What would be number 1??<br />
	I considered making all the entries in this wiki take their IDs from the timestamp they were created at, but when Wikibase had no clear way of doing that and it was already installed, I decided it would be easier to do this instead: map out the first 3000-9000 Item entries to the best numbers I can think of, and then stop worrying. A little later, I'd go a step further and scrap Wikibase to make editing individual Items and downloading them as text files particularly easy in all browsers, and allow for Item identifiers to be as pronounceable as possible thanks to the ability to add commas or redirects inside the same namespace.		I considered making all the entries in this wiki take their IDs from the timestamp they were created at, but when Wikibase had no clear way of doing that and it was already installed, I decided it would be easier to do this instead: map out the first 3000-9000 Item entries to the best numbers I can think of, and then stop worrying. A little later, I'd go a step further and scrap Wikibase to make editing individual Items and downloading them as text files particularly easy in all browsers, and allow for Item identifiers to be as pronounceable as possible thanks to the ability to add commas or redirects inside the same namespace.

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</noinclude>I ([[User:Reversedragon|R.D.]]) am a bit obsessive about numbers. I had a problem with the idea of Items having small numbers that at the same time were arbitrary. What would be number 10?? What would be number 1?? 
I considered making all the entries in this wiki take their IDs from the timestamp they were created at, but when Wikibase had no clear way of doing that and it was already installed, I decided it would be easier to do this instead: map out the first 3000-9000 Item entries to the best numbers I can think of, and then stop worrying. A little later, I'd go a step further and scrap Wikibase to make editing individual Items and downloading them as text files particularly easy in all browsers, and allow for Item identifiers to be as pronounceable as possible thanks to the ability to add commas or redirects inside the same namespace.

This is the first prototype of every Item in order. After this, I began to create specific [[:Category:Ontology portals|"Ontology" Categories]] for particular fields and media series, and to create [[Help:Hue lists|hue list templates]] to more consistently display the same proposed Item across pages. This page will not use any of the later html-saving templates in order to preserve a more basic and manual version of the [[Help:Hue lists|hue list]] markup. However, some especially verbose sections of chapters, episodes, short stories, etc. have been moved to Ontology pages to make the list easier to navigate.

You should be warned that there may be a lot of particular opinions on this page. Whenever I wrote any idea down I poured out the first thoughts that came to my mind on it. I had no intention that any of these first-thoughts would be a permanent part of any of the Item pages that would not change. Some of them were meant as loose guidelines for further examining each thing and collecting research or analyses of them on their pages in a general way, but only really as a starting place. I've always had the rule that [[redlink|"angry" does not belong on Item pages]], thus I sometimes absolutely went off here to avoid it going there. Also, you are encouraged to create alternate prototype pages scrawled on Category pages or [[:User Spaces for Special Research|in connection with other thesis portals]] — the only major rules are that all prototype notes should be archived on an early revision of their corresponding Item page (whether they are deleted or superseded in later revisions, which is fully expected), and that when somebody actually establishes a block of useful concepts within the Ontology namespace you must build off what is already there while moving existing Items only when there is some relatively important reason another Item should be using that number. If an Item is on a prototype page and has not been properly created, then it is not an issue to move things around, but you should try to keep related blocks together.

Item status: Wikibase set to be removed / Property data must be recovered first, then Wikibase extensions will be disabled / Ontology pages are now canonical Item pages 
Once the items on this page have been created, it will be natural for the names and purposes of the items to evolve somewhat over time, and there is no need for anyone to worry about whether the current set of items is "following" this prototype page. Items will become [[:Category:Ontology portals|grouped into specific topic-based Ontology pages]] such that following the list is less unwieldy, or [[:Category:Ontology entries by number|paginated numeric lists]] including the actual Items by template.<noinclude>

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