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</li><li data-qid="36,68" value="3668" class="field_exstruct" data-dimension="S2">Abusers seek to destroy freedom / Manipulative and abusive people seek to destroy Freedom -> one of the central axioms of the [[:Category:Existentialist-Structuralist tradition ontology|Existentialist-Structuralist tradition]] that leads to all the strange statements about sorting the world into nice people and mean people, Free Will being able to fix everything, etc. | </li><li data-qid="36,68" value="3668" class="field_exstruct" data-dimension="S2">Abusers seek to destroy freedom / Manipulative and abusive people seek to destroy Freedom -> one of the central axioms of the [[:Category:Existentialist-Structuralist tradition ontology|Existentialist-Structuralist tradition]] that leads to all the strange statements about sorting the world into nice people and mean people, Free Will being able to fix everything, etc. | ||
</li><li data-qid="36,68" value="3668" class="field_fantasy" data-dimension="S2">I believe this came up in an {{film|Owl House}} analysis. either way it would have been in context of "psychology" or "psychiatry".<br/> | |||
(those are in quotes because of the tiny undertones to each of them where they just won't deal with any of the problems of Liberal capitalism including the genesis of violent White-supremacist subpopulations that might kill you, and you really sometimes have to put "bourgeois" in front.<br/> | |||
yes, I'm speaking from experience. around 2020 I went for depression and suicidal thoughts and I just had to give up on the whole thing because every time I tried to talk about something that made me feel better it got questioned and replaced with something "more normal" that accidentally had the power to make me feel awful for not being able to do it and want to die. I wasn't even a Communist yet, so I didn't even bring up any really interesting stuff, all of it was much more normal than anything I talk about now but it still wasn't normal enough for {{em|them}}. it ended not with me quitting, but with them telling me there was nothing more they could do for me. the worst was when one of my family members went crazy and was a short distance away from possibly shooting someone and I contacted the therapist because I didn't have anyone else to contact but they said there was nothing they could do about it because it's not what they do; because everyone is racist here and nobody knows not to everyone wanted to leave it to the police. it only got worse for me when I realized that losers like me aren't of any use to Marxist parties and I'll always be on my own hiding from gunshots in a corner wondering if it will ever be safe to try to work or stop hiding from people and news stations in my lair. I'm going to try going to therapy again soon but... I'm afraid. without me saying anything more, I think you can see why I don't like definitions of Freedom from "psychologists" and I'm so quick to mock any definition of Freedom or Unfreedom as simple or universal things.) | |||
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</li><li class="field_trotsky" data-tradition="Zv, PT" data-qid="36,69" value="3669" data-dimension="S2">Abusers manufacture emergencies / Manipulative people manufacture emergencies in order to create desperate behaviors / "manipulative people shift context to normalize extreme behavior" {{YouTube|b3AN2wY4qAM}} -> Tories are doing my work for me. here again we see a focus on individual agents and malicious intentions: a "manipulative individual" is identified and treated as the key to preventing bad outcomes. but this person is using it to argue that any sufficiently large-scale social policy is a conspiracy by corrupt people inside the government, and in turn to argue that COVID measures and environmental regulations are conspiracies, and worst of all, that any mention of an "emergency" anywhere on earth is a ploy of manipulation to sway otherwise bias-free rationalists. [[:Category:Existentialist-Structuralist tradition ontology|Existentialism]] starts with the seemingly innocuous stuff like claiming every form of abuse is the denial of Freedom, or that intersubjectivity is the culmination of Freedom, and ends with this. cultural islands that claim any attempt to regulate them through [[Term:democulture|democulture]] or {{i|federal government at all}} is a breach of Enlightenment values. the only bright side to this? it gives insight into [[E:In the First World Trotsky is sacred|why Trotsky is so "popular"]]. this sounds just like the framings Trotskyite conspirators used. but you can see that the internal reasoning is different: it's solely about choppifying society because [[E:Q4236|being part of a bigger society isn't fun]]. | |||
</li><li class="field_nations" data-qid="36,70" value="3670" data-tradition="PT" data-dimension="F2">[[Ontology:Q3670|COVID measures were devised in order to create Bolshevism]] / [[E:generalized dictator|Generalized Dictators]] and their allies create Bolshevism specifically in order to take away Freedom, so COVID measures were devised in order to realize Bolshevism -> laughable claim when you take it very literally. of course, what the claim {{em|says}} is not what it typically means when people say it. | |||
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Latest revision as of 15:47, 22 January 2026
Main entry
- Abusers seek to destroy freedom / Manipulative and abusive people seek to destroy Freedom -> one of the central axioms of the Existentialist-Structuralist tradition that leads to all the strange statements about sorting the world into nice people and mean people, Free Will being able to fix everything, etc.
- I believe this came up in an Owl House analysis. either way it would have been in context of "psychology" or "psychiatry".
(those are in quotes because of the tiny undertones to each of them where they just won't deal with any of the problems of Liberal capitalism including the genesis of violent White-supremacist subpopulations that might kill you, and you really sometimes have to put "bourgeois" in front.
yes, I'm speaking from experience. around 2020 I went for depression and suicidal thoughts and I just had to give up on the whole thing because every time I tried to talk about something that made me feel better it got questioned and replaced with something "more normal" that accidentally had the power to make me feel awful for not being able to do it and want to die. I wasn't even a Communist yet, so I didn't even bring up any really interesting stuff, all of it was much more normal than anything I talk about now but it still wasn't normal enough for them. it ended not with me quitting, but with them telling me there was nothing more they could do for me. the worst was when one of my family members went crazy and was a short distance away from possibly shooting someone and I contacted the therapist because I didn't have anyone else to contact but they said there was nothing they could do about it because it's not what they do; because everyone is racist here and nobody knows not to everyone wanted to leave it to the police. it only got worse for me when I realized that losers like me aren't of any use to Marxist parties and I'll always be on my own hiding from gunshots in a corner wondering if it will ever be safe to try to work or stop hiding from people and news stations in my lair. I'm going to try going to therapy again soon but... I'm afraid. without me saying anything more, I think you can see why I don't like definitions of Freedom from "psychologists" and I'm so quick to mock any definition of Freedom or Unfreedom as simple or universal things.)
In Toryism[edit]
- Abusers manufacture emergencies / Manipulative people manufacture emergencies in order to create desperate behaviors / "manipulative people shift context to normalize extreme behavior" [1] -> Tories are doing my work for me. here again we see a focus on individual agents and malicious intentions: a "manipulative individual" is identified and treated as the key to preventing bad outcomes. but this person is using it to argue that any sufficiently large-scale social policy is a conspiracy by corrupt people inside the government, and in turn to argue that COVID measures and environmental regulations are conspiracies, and worst of all, that any mention of an "emergency" anywhere on earth is a ploy of manipulation to sway otherwise bias-free rationalists. Existentialism starts with the seemingly innocuous stuff like claiming every form of abuse is the denial of Freedom, or that intersubjectivity is the culmination of Freedom, and ends with this. cultural islands that claim any attempt to regulate them through democulture or federal government at all is a breach of Enlightenment values. the only bright side to this? it gives insight into why Trotsky is so "popular". this sounds just like the framings Trotskyite conspirators used. but you can see that the internal reasoning is different: it's solely about choppifying society because being part of a bigger society isn't fun.
- COVID measures were devised in order to create Bolshevism / Generalized Dictators and their allies create Bolshevism specifically in order to take away Freedom, so COVID measures were devised in order to realize Bolshevism -> laughable claim when you take it very literally. of course, what the claim says is not what it typically means when people say it.
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