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{{li|start=y|I=S1/MX|tradition=MX / meta-ontology|Q=290|Q2=290}}[[Ontology:Q290|'pataphysics]] -> imagined "field of science" portrayed in {{book|Dr. Faustroll}}. it took me a while to understand what this really was, because nobody who isn't a philosopher actually explains it right. some people assume it's specifically about the rules, tropes, and norms that make up fiction (SCP Wikis are guilty of this), some people think it describes lateral thinking and creativity.<br/> | {{li|start=y|I=S1/MX|Q=373|dimension=L}}[[Special:PermanentLink/9388|'pataphysics]] -> I'm pretty sure the SCP wiki uses it slightly wrong. pataphysics seems to be the use of creativity and nonsense-jamming to uncover problems in ontologies including things easily recognized as metaphysics. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}mWZhbJXFzQ8] it also seems like certain chapters of MDem are basically doing the same thing as pataphysics in the way they start with strange associations and throw in total curve balls to get everyone off their established scripts and get them to actually think. Alfred Jarry called it 'pataphysics, I just call it "meta-ontology". in a sense, it's like the SCP wiki has to use a wrong definition because the Foundation is all about containing things and keeping things normal, but 'pataphysics is actually about using such insane strategies to solve things it would go against the Foundation's typical protocols. "Admonition" was a missed opportunity to define 'pataphysics utterly correctly yet make it this bizarre anomalous almost-scary thing that's not just philosophy and is nearly forbidden most of the time | ||
{{li|I=S1/MX|tradition=MX / meta-ontology|Q=290|Q2=290}}[[Ontology:Q290|'pataphysics]] -> imagined "field of science" portrayed in {{book|Dr. Faustroll}}. it took me a while to understand what this really was, because nobody who isn't a philosopher actually explains it right. some people assume it's specifically about the rules, tropes, and norms that make up fiction (SCP Wikis are guilty of this), some people think it describes lateral thinking and creativity.<br/> | |||
'pataphysics as a phenomenon is the interactions between Idealist propositions treated as laws of physics, leading to comical violations of what would be expected in a Materialist model of reality. a sieve sheds water because it has the quality of being full of holes, so if you put enough of a hole-filled material on a bed then it floats and becomes a boat.<br/> | 'pataphysics as a phenomenon is the interactions between Idealist propositions treated as laws of physics, leading to comical violations of what would be expected in a Materialist model of reality. a sieve sheds water because it has the quality of being full of holes, so if you put enough of a hole-filled material on a bed then it floats and becomes a boat.<br/> | ||
the most shocking thing about 'pataphysics is that while it's funny at first, you can pull out the most basic principle inside it and actually begin using that to create a Materialist model of reality which is predictive. all you really have to do is test propositions against reality and at a certain point the tested propositions can start substituting for reality and testing the results of other ones. it kind of just turns into science. | the most shocking thing about 'pataphysics is that while it's funny at first, you can pull out the most basic principle inside it and actually begin using that to create a Materialist model of reality which is predictive. all you really have to do is test propositions against reality and at a certain point the tested propositions can start substituting for reality and testing the results of other ones. it kind of just turns into science. | ||
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- 'pataphysics -> I'm pretty sure the SCP wiki uses it slightly wrong. pataphysics seems to be the use of creativity and nonsense-jamming to uncover problems in ontologies including things easily recognized as metaphysics. [1] it also seems like certain chapters of MDem are basically doing the same thing as pataphysics in the way they start with strange associations and throw in total curve balls to get everyone off their established scripts and get them to actually think. Alfred Jarry called it 'pataphysics, I just call it "meta-ontology". in a sense, it's like the SCP wiki has to use a wrong definition because the Foundation is all about containing things and keeping things normal, but 'pataphysics is actually about using such insane strategies to solve things it would go against the Foundation's typical protocols. "Admonition" was a missed opportunity to define 'pataphysics utterly correctly yet make it this bizarre anomalous almost-scary thing that's not just philosophy and is nearly forbidden most of the time
- 'pataphysics -> imagined "field of science" portrayed in Dr. Faustroll. it took me a while to understand what this really was, because nobody who isn't a philosopher actually explains it right. some people assume it's specifically about the rules, tropes, and norms that make up fiction (SCP Wikis are guilty of this), some people think it describes lateral thinking and creativity.
'pataphysics as a phenomenon is the interactions between Idealist propositions treated as laws of physics, leading to comical violations of what would be expected in a Materialist model of reality. a sieve sheds water because it has the quality of being full of holes, so if you put enough of a hole-filled material on a bed then it floats and becomes a boat.
the most shocking thing about 'pataphysics is that while it's funny at first, you can pull out the most basic principle inside it and actually begin using that to create a Materialist model of reality which is predictive. all you really have to do is test propositions against reality and at a certain point the tested propositions can start substituting for reality and testing the results of other ones. it kind of just turns into science.
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