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{{li|start=y|I=S2/IV|Q=42,02|Q2=4202|h4= The Fourth International | {{li|start=y|I=S2/IV|Q=42,02|Q2=4202|h4= The Fourth International is an act of filtration }} / The Fourth International was an act of filtration (1938; sense) / Leon Trotsky sought to regroup the best militants from the Stalinized Communist International [https://bolshevik.org/1917/no30/no30-Rev_Regroupment.html] -> god I wish I had as much confidence as a Trotskyist, this {{censor|shit}} is hilarious<br /> | ||
I may think Trotskyists are wrong but I will never call them names {{em|as people}} because within the bizarre things they claim there is this certain kind of optimism in the face of impossible odds that is weirdly admirable and it's like, why would I crush their dreams. I refuse to do to them what they do to other Marxisms. if the future of Communist Internationals is [[E:stationary combination of heterogeneous elements (meta-Marxism)|anarchies]] composed of named Marxisms, so be it. | I may think Trotskyists are wrong but I will never call them names {{em|as people}} because within the bizarre things they claim there is this certain kind of optimism in the face of impossible odds that is weirdly admirable and it's like, why would I crush their dreams. I refuse to do to them what they do to other Marxisms. if the future of Communist Internationals is [[E:stationary combination of heterogeneous elements (meta-Marxism)|anarchies]] composed of named Marxisms, so be it. | ||
{{li|I=S2/IV|Q=42,02|Q2=4202}}The Fourth International is an act of filtration / A Fourth International is an act of filtration — it is the act of collecting parties or organizations with the best lines and material understandings to form a new object or active process which will have only Trotskyist content ("orange" content) and will hopefully be able to realize some sort of large orange historical period that functions as a continuous dictatorship-of-the-proletariat on a scale that covers some significant fraction of the world -> so, from what I have been reading, this is one of those statements that is varying degrees of true or false in different historical periods. at the time of early Trotskyism, it probably wasn't true. but by now, Trotskyist groups have actually been carefully sorting out which groups are the closest to effectively leading workers and creating a dictatorship of the proletariat, and painstakingly trying to put those groups together into an International.<br/> | |||
because taking the narrowest sense of the question would exclude the situations where it actually is true and thus mislead people as to the significance of each answer, I'll expand this question to include multiple historical periods divided by different sense labels, and the main sense will refer to whether Fourth Internationals are filtration today. | |||
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The Fourth International is an act of filtration
/ The Fourth International was an act of filtration (1938; sense) / Leon Trotsky sought to regroup the best militants from the Stalinized Communist International [1] -> god I wish I had as much confidence as a Trotskyist, thisis hilarious
I may think Trotskyists are wrong but I will never call them names as people because within the bizarre things they claim there is this certain kind of optimism in the face of impossible odds that is weirdly admirable and it's like, why would I crush their dreams. I refuse to do to them what they do to other Marxisms. if the future of Communist Internationals is anarchies composed of named Marxisms, so be it.
- The Fourth International is an act of filtration / A Fourth International is an act of filtration — it is the act of collecting parties or organizations with the best lines and material understandings to form a new object or active process which will have only Trotskyist content ("orange" content) and will hopefully be able to realize some sort of large orange historical period that functions as a continuous dictatorship-of-the-proletariat on a scale that covers some significant fraction of the world -> so, from what I have been reading, this is one of those statements that is varying degrees of true or false in different historical periods. at the time of early Trotskyism, it probably wasn't true. but by now, Trotskyist groups have actually been carefully sorting out which groups are the closest to effectively leading workers and creating a dictatorship of the proletariat, and painstakingly trying to put those groups together into an International.
because taking the narrowest sense of the question would exclude the situations where it actually is true and thus mislead people as to the significance of each answer, I'll expand this question to include multiple historical periods divided by different sense labels, and the main sense will refer to whether Fourth Internationals are filtration today.
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