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Stalinists will acknowledge Trotsky
/ They'll have to acknowledge Trotsky / They'll have to talk about Trotsky someday (Alan Woods)

Ideologies or fields

pronounced Fourth / Trotskyism
pronounced Fourth / International Marxist Tendency
pronounced Fourth / Revolutionary Communist International (2024)
pronounced Fourth / Alan Woods

Description of misplaced example

I am madly trying to find a video. there was this video by the IMT, and Alan Woods is on a stage. the overall room looks kind of bluish. it's kind of like he's giving a pronounced Ted talk or something. and he says, he says something to the effect of "They're going to have to talk about Trotsky someday. [glib, barely not winking]". I cannot find this video for the life of me. does anybody have any idea where it went (2023-12-06)
Alan Woods is on a raised stage speaking to what might be a large room.
He is not at a lectern. I think he was standing up able to walk across the stage and was not seated, but I am not sure. I somewhat remember the the camera pointed so he is facing diagonally left.
Either the room or the backdrop of the stage looks vaguely bluish. I am not sure if it was a projector with a blue image on it, or some kind of textured acoustic wall like they have in some theater rooms (stage plays) or a news show set which was blue. In one video where he has a discussion with Pakistani TV (2012), the backdrop is about the right color, but I think the room was more open than that. [1] [2]
The overall topic of the talk might have been about defending the legacy of Trotskyism against Stalinists or something, though I don't remember what it was exactly.
- It is possible but not certainly the case that this was a "closing remarks" talk for an IMT summer or winter school event. I have looked at some of those but haven't found it yet.
He says a particular quote about the idea that Stalinists will one day have to acknowledge Trotsky. This is the one thing about the video that "matters", and that I'm the most certain about.
I'm reasonably sure the quote is one of either: "they're going to have to talk about Trotsky some day" (or "someday") / "they're going to have to talk about Trotsky one day" / "they'll have to talk about Trotsky one day" / "The Stalinists ... are going to have to talk about Trotsky one of these days"
The video was most likely posted some time between 2012 and 2022, but definitely before December 2023.

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-{{li|start=y|I=S2/IV|Q=697|Q2=697}}They'll have to acknowledge Trotsky / They'll have to talk about Trotsky someday (Alan Woods)
+{{li|start=y|I=S2/IV|Q=697|Q2=697|h4= [[E:Q40,18|Stalinists will acknowledge Trotsky]] }} / They'll have to acknowledge Trotsky / They'll have to talk about Trotsky someday (Alan Woods)
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-== Ideology codes ==
+== Ideologies or fields ==
+<ol class="hue clean terse  field_ML">
+{{li|start=y
+    |I=Z1/IV|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|IV|Fourth}} / Trotskyism
+{{li|I=Z1/IV|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|IV|Fourth}} / International Marxist Tendency
+{{li|I=Z1/IV|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|IV|Fourth}} / Revolutionary Communist International (2024)
+{{li|I=Z1/IV|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|IV|Fourth}} / Alan Woods
-* IV / International Marxist Tendency; Revolutionary Communist International (2024)
+</li></ol>
-== Prototype notes ==
+== Description of misplaced example ==
-* <i>I am madly trying to find a video. there was this video by the IMT, and Alan Woods is on a stage. the overall room looks kind of bluish. it's kind of like he's giving a <b class="caps">Ted</b> Talk or something. and he says, he says something to the effect of "They're going to have to talk about Trotsky someday. [glib, barely not winking]". I cannot find this video for the life of me. does anybody have any idea where it went</i> (2023-12-06)  <!-- R.D.; voice-recorded scrap which was supposed to go up as a video but didn't -->
+* {{i|I am madly trying to find a video. there was this video by the IMT, and Alan Woods is on a stage. the overall room looks kind of bluish. it's kind of like he's giving a {{TTS|TED Talk|Ted talk}} or something. and he says, he says something to the effect of "They're going to have to talk about Trotsky someday. [glib, barely not winking]". I cannot find this video for the life of me. does anybody have any idea where it went}} (2023-12-06)
-* Alan Woods is on a raised stage. He may be standing either in front of a projector with a blue image on it or the stage may overall be blue tones.
+* Alan Woods is on a raised stage speaking to what might be a large room.
-* There was a news show in Pakistan which was very blue as well, so it could have been a news show set? But I'm reasonably sure it was a TED Talk style stage. I do not remember him standing in front of a lectern. I think the stage was clear.
+* He is not at a lectern. I think he was standing up able to walk across the stage and was not seated, but I am not sure. I somewhat remember the the camera pointed so he is facing diagonally left.
-* The video happened some time between 2012 and 2022.
+* Either the room or the backdrop of the stage looks vaguely bluish. I am not sure if it was a projector with a blue image on it, or some kind of textured acoustic wall like they have in some theater rooms (stage plays) or a news show set which was blue. In one video where he has a discussion with Pakistani TV (2012), the backdrop is about the right color, but I think the room was more open than that. {{YouTube|2tpaypUz0nY}} {{YouTube|TXWWou57gZw}}
-* I'm reasonably sure the quote is one of either: "they're going to have to talk about Trotsky some day" (or "someday") / "they're going to have to talk about Trotsky one day" / "they'll have to talk about Trotsky one day"
+* The overall topic of the talk might have been about defending the legacy of Trotskyism against Stalinists or something, though I don't remember what it was exactly.
-* The video "almost" looks like these: {{YouTube|2tpaypUz0nY}} {{YouTube|TXWWou57gZw}}
+** It is possible but not certainly the case that this was a "closing remarks" talk for an IMT summer or winter school event. I have looked at some of those but haven't found it yet.
+* He says a particular quote about the idea that Stalinists will one day have to acknowledge Trotsky. This is the one thing about the video that "matters", and that I'm the most certain about.
+* I'm reasonably sure the quote is one of either: "they're going to have to talk about Trotsky some day" (or "someday") / "they're going to have to talk about Trotsky one day" / "they'll have to talk about Trotsky one day" / "The Stalinists ... are going to have to talk about Trotsky one of these days"
+* The video was most likely posted some time between 2012 and 2022, but definitely before December 2023.