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DessAster theory / All Gaster lore is Dess lore / ... -> this is the entry I will use for the sum of all my predictions about Dess and Gaster and the sum of all interconnected theories that went into RedactedTale and Auldernet.
this entry wasn't really made for use in Wavebuilder combinations (although representing all the component theories through characterizations could be fun), it's more to have a fresh, unique heading for a 9k / Ontology page.

New version

Dess Holiday / (9k)
Deltarune is one idea repeated / Deltarune is just one thing repeated over and over and over [vid] / Undertale-Deltarune is one narrative repeated over and over (sense) ->
and, importantly, the one thing is not "Howard Blast theory". Undertale had to look like that to disguise what the actual idea that would appear in Deltarune is, so as not to outright spoil Deltarune. this is obvious once you've seen Chapter 4 or so of Deltarune. I'd argue that the Knight apparently hiding in a closet / dark room twice already begins to set up a different story in and of itself, if rather subtly.
The Knight contains Dess -> it's hard to say this is true any more, due to new evidence on Image_Friend. now I think I can only say "the Knight is Dess' puppet".
The Knight is a ball of glass / The Knight is some kind of ball or stone that Dess skipped into the Dark Worlds and Light World to make waves [vid] — possibly a ball formed out of molten glass shards that fell away from Dess while escaping the game world / (9k)

Old version pre- Chapter 5

The Knight contains Dess -> pre- Chapter 5, I thought Dess had basically twisted the world so their body and their will were in totally separate worlds connected only by the Knight and the physical boundary of its glass "armor". meaning that Dess, "the next aspiring Dr. Gaster", is kinda inside the Knight either way, even if he isn't directly there standing in the Light World. his location is in the Light World but he's still in the Titan fountain / "The Depths" pulling the strings to move the Knight, like you'd drive a car, or a remote-controlled mech. it's black-hole logic, Dess changed the actual shape of spacetime, such that he's technically there even though he isn't. which sounds pretty bogus out of context, but if you have all the evidence and the propositions leading up to this then it makes sense.

Ideologies, topics, or genres

pronounced U.T-D.R. / Deltarune
pronounced U.T-D.R. / Dess
pronounced U.T-D.R. / The Roaring Knight
pronounced U.T-D.R. / W.D. Gaster (Deltarune)
pronounced U.T-D.R. / W.D. Gaster (Undertale)

Wavebuilder combinations

pronounced P: pronounced Wave-builder: forms result [Item]

: --
along with [Item]: ?? (pronounced proposed / Fy)1-1-1
forming from [Item]: ?? (pronounced proposed / Fy)1-1-1; --; --

Subpages or related scraps

playlist - list of YouTube videos that serve as prior context, or occasionally were just accepted into the Ontology project as propositions

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 {{li|start=y|I=S2/UTDR/WD66|Q=12,666|Q2=12666}}DessAster theory / All Gaster lore is Dess lore / ...  ->  this is the entry I will use for the sum of all my predictions about Dess and Gaster and the sum of all interconnected theories that went into RedactedTale and Auldernet.<br/>
 this entry wasn't really made for use in Wavebuilder combinations (although representing all the component theories through characterizations could be fun), it's more to have a fresh, unique heading for a 9k / Ontology page.
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+== New version ==
+{{Hue|ff2=DFy}}
+{{li|start=y|I=S1/UTDR/WD66|Q=69,12|Q2=6912}}Dess Holiday {{9k|RD|Q69,12}}
+{{li|I=S2/UTDR|Q=618|Q2=618}}Deltarune is one idea repeated / {{i|Deltarune is just one thing repeated over and over and over}} [vid] / Undertale-Deltarune is one narrative repeated over and over (sense)  -><br/>
+and, importantly, the one thing is {{em|not}} "[[EC:9k/RD/Q65,63|Howard Blast theory]]". Undertale had to look like that to disguise what the actual idea that would appear in Deltarune is, so as not to outright spoil Deltarune. this is obvious once you've seen Chapter 4 or so of Deltarune. I'd argue that the Knight apparently hiding in a closet / dark room twice already begins to set up a different story in and of itself, if rather subtly.
+{{li|I=F2/DFy|Q=66,34|Q2=6634}}The Knight contains Dess  ->  it's hard to say this is true any more, due to new evidence on {{caps|Image_Friend}}. now I think I can only say "the Knight is Dess' puppet".
+{{li|I=S2/UTDR/WD66|Q=66,30|Q2=6630}}The Knight is a ball of glass / The Knight is some kind of ball or stone that Dess skipped into the Dark Worlds and Light World to make waves [vid] — possibly a ball formed out of molten glass shards that fell away from Dess while escaping the game world  {{9k|RD|Q66,30}}
+{{endHue}}
+== Old version pre- Chapter 5 ==
+{{Hue|ff2=DFy}}
+{{li|I=S2/DFy|Q=66,34|Q2=6634}}The Knight contains Dess  ->  pre- Chapter 5, I thought Dess had basically twisted the world so their body and their will were in totally separate worlds connected only by the Knight and the physical boundary of its glass "armor". meaning that Dess, "the next aspiring Dr. Gaster", is kinda inside the Knight either way, even if he isn't directly there standing in the Light World. his location is in the Light World but he's still in the Titan fountain / "The Depths" pulling the strings to move the Knight, like you'd drive a car, or a remote-controlled mech. it's black-hole logic, Dess changed the actual shape of spacetime, such that he's technically there even though he isn't. which sounds pretty bogus out of context, but if you have all the evidence and the propositions leading up to this then it makes sense.
+{{endHue}}
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+{{li |I=S1/UTDR/WD66|Q=69,12|Q2=6912}}{{TTS|UTDR|U.T-D.R.}} / [[EC:9k/RD/Q69,12|Dess]]
+{{li |I=S1/UTDR/WD66|Q=66,90|Q2=6690}}{{TTS|UTDR|U.T-D.R.}} / [[EC:9k/RD/Q66,90|The Roaring Knight]]
+{{li |I=S1/UTDR/WD66|Q=66,17|Q2=6617}}{{TTS|UTDR|U.T-D.R.}} / W.D. Gaster (Deltarune)
+{{li |I=S1/UTDR/WD66|Q=66,17|Q2=6617}}{{TTS|UTDR|U.T-D.R.}} / W.D. Gaster (Undertale)
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 == Subpages or related scraps ==
+* [[EC:9k/RD/Q12,666/playlist|playlist]] - list of YouTube videos that serve as prior context, or occasionally were just accepted into the Ontology project as propositions
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