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== Related games == | |||
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</li><li class="field_fantasy" value="618" data-dimension="Z">{{game|Breath of Fire}} | |||
</li><li data-qid="76,16" value="7616" class="field_fantasy" data-dimension="Z"><cite>[[Ontology:Q7616|Undertale]]</cite> | |||
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</li><li class="field_fantasy" data-tradition="Fy" value="618" data-dimension="S">chat plays Undertale | </li><li class="field_fantasy" data-tradition="Fy" value="618" data-dimension="S">chat plays Undertale | ||
</li><li class="field_mdem" data-tradition="MX onto Aa / meta-Marxism onto Jungianism" value="618" data-dimension="S2">The collective unconscious in fiction is an illusion created by the fact that all the characters actually emerge from a single real mind -> I definitely would not have figured this out as easily without Deltarune. I guess any story that frames itself as a dream would have gotten me here eventually but Deltarune actually makes you ask where the Dark Worlds and all the Light World characters [[E:demiurge (fantasy narratives)|equally come from]], so it practically screams this proposition | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S2/ES|Q=60,77|Q2=6077}}Susie being herself can change the Prophecy / ([[User:RD/9k/Q6077|9k]]) | |||
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{{li|I=S2/Fy|class=field_horror|Q=618|Q2=618}}Rudy Holiday donated his body to create the Roaring Knight | {{li|I=S2/Fy|class=field_horror|Q=618|Q2=618}}Rudy Holiday donated his body to create the Roaring Knight | ||
{{li|I=S2/Fy|class=field_horror|Q=618|Q2=618}}Dess was afraid of being trapped in a closet / Dess turned her bed away from the closet because, perhaps from a younger age, she had had nightmares about being trapped in darkness {{YouTube|xHJm9dSzKXw}} | |||
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Latest revision as of 08:39, 14 March 2026
Main entry[edit]
Related games[edit]
- Breath of Fire
- Undertale
Miscellaneous[edit]
- if I don't get out of this small town I'll be stuck working at ICE-E's Pizza
- Deltarune and Twin Peaks
- old scholars greyed by research forgotten / "Old scholars, greyed by research forgotten" [1] -> this line has to be more important than it seems, specifically because of the word "greyed". it normally has to do with age, but within the dark sanctuary it almost certainly refers to Goners of some kind. it comes up in the same chapter as Gerson going from being normal-dead to being a Goner in the context of a Dark World. it comes up in the vague vicinity of the room of organ monks that are all stone, which I feel like it's referring to. this line weirdly implies they were trying to learn something they weren't supposed to know. but there's only one stated way to become a Goner, which is leaving a Dark World. so there are only a few things you could be attempting to learn. A) what's beyond your world B) how to survive the Roaring personally C) how to stop the Roaring
- Monsters and humans in Deltarune are not actually filled with blood, but with Determination, because Determination (red) is the default Soul color [2] -> interesting idea. I am tempted to make a joke about Adventure Time and Marceline eating red but it isn't coming together.
- Susie having a healing ability is a reference to Breath of Fire [3]
- Your love for characters cannot save them, but taking those lessons to the real world is valuable [4] -> [...]
- "Determination" is a magic power in Undertale
- "Determination" is a magic power in Deltarune
- "Power" is a magic power in Deltarune
- "Pain" is a magic power in Deltarune
- "Freedom" is a magic power in Deltarune
- chat plays Undertale
- The collective unconscious in fiction is an illusion created by the fact that all the characters actually emerge from a single real mind -> I definitely would not have figured this out as easily without Deltarune. I guess any story that frames itself as a dream would have gotten me here eventually but Deltarune actually makes you ask where the Dark Worlds and all the Light World characters equally come from, so it practically screams this proposition
Struggle against the narrative[edit]
- Susie being herself can change the Prophecy / (9k)
Theories (26/2)[edit]
- Dess is not whole in the sense that Kris and Susie are [5] -> probably.
- The red heart device is not Kris' mind or spirit (is not Kris' Soul; Deltarune) [6] -> I definitely think this is true but not in the ways Undertale works where you have to have one anyway. I think Souls are just not real in Deltarune even though they are in Undertale.
- Kris' Soul was put inside Dess for Kris to be able to puppet the Knight and act out the Prophecy [7]
- Rudy Holiday donated his body to create the Roaring Knight
- Dess was afraid of being trapped in a closet / Dess turned her bed away from the closet because, perhaps from a younger age, she had had nightmares about being trapped in darkness [8]