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J: The Bolshevik-Leninist Party of North America is gathered here today to rule on whether Canada is or is not Trotskyist.
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E: It is my opinion that Canada is most certainly Trotskyist.
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E: Let's review four things it takes for a country to be Trotskyist.<br/>
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P: In all the points you present about countries being Trotskyist, every one of them is about parties.<br/>
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P: Where are the points about workers?!
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E: Every one of those points is about workers.<br/>
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E: The purpose of a party is to collect workers' representatives, and when the party makes decisions, all the people making those decisions will have been sent by the workers.
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P: No.<br/>
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E: So, as you can see, Canada is in fact Trotskyist, despite what people say.
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Latest revision as of 10:39, 29 April 2026

Bolshevik-Leninist Party of North America, 5th congress
United Socialist States, 196X

J: The Bolshevik-Leninist Party of North America is gathered here today to rule on whether Canada is or is not Trotskyist.

E: It is my opinion that Canada is most certainly Trotskyist.

E: Let's review four things it takes for a country to be Trotskyist.
E: 1. Opposition to Stalinism. A party must not be in support of Stalinist countries.
E: 2. Opposition to bureaucracy. A party must guard against bureaucratic takeover.
E: 3. Solid understanding of Leninism. A party must lead its workers to a good understanding of vanguard parties.
E: 4. Socialist transition—

P: [Objection!]
P: In all the points you present about countries being Trotskyist, every one of them is about parties.
P: Where are the points about workers?!

E: Every one of those points is about workers.
E: The purpose of a party is to collect workers' representatives, and when the party makes decisions, all the people making those decisions will have been sent by the workers.

P: No.
P: Let's refer back to this "solid understanding of Leninism" you speak of.

E: ...

P: What stops a Leninist party from being taken over by bureaucrats?

E: A proper Materialist analysis.

P: A proper Materialist analysis of what?
P: And don't you go saying "material conditions".

E: A proper Materialist analysis of all the currently-relevant tasks inside society.
E: Such as: replacing individual experts with newly-created collective enterprises.

E: So, as you can see, the workers' representatives have to actually do something once they're elected. E: It's not a matter of "fill the country with workers and you're done".

P: (There is something very wrong with his Leninism and I am going to find it.)

P: [points] What do you consider to be opposition to Stalinism?

E: Opposition to Stalinism is when you defend your people's interests and don't sell out to Stalinist countries. In the U.S.S.A., or in Canada?

P: [Objection!]
P: Why would that be relevant?

E: I'm sure you've heard of country characteristics, Comrade Wright.

P: Country characteristics have nothing to do with this. P: [slam] I asked you what distinguishes a Stalinist Canada from a Trotskyist Canada.

E: Well, surely, part of it would be correctly understanding country characteristics.

E: So, as you can see, Canada is in fact Trotskyist, despite what people say.

E: Well then... If Canada's party isn't Trotskyist, then what is it?

P: Uh...

M: Think. How many major tendencies are there in North America?

P: About six or seven.
P: Cannonism. Schizoanalysis. BlackPantherism. Maoism. Libertarians. Indigenous movements. Trotskyite nationalism...
P: Canada is an instance of Trotskyite nationalism!

P: [Hold it!]
P: If the "Trotskyists" in Canada are real Trotskyists, then why aren't they trying to undermine Canada?!

E: ...

P: Trotskyism is an international movement. No party that attempts to constrain the revolution to one country can possibly be a Trotskyist movement.

[unfinished]

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