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== Main entry == | == Main entry == | ||
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{{li|start=y|I=Z1/DFy|Q= | {{li|start=y|I=Z1/DFy|Q=65,09|Q2=6509}}{{film|The Amazing Digital Circus}} <!-- / ({{9k|RD/Q618-DigitalCircus}}) --> | ||
{{li|I=S1/Fy|Q=618|Q2=618}}fake research / ({{9k|RD/Q618-FairlyOddParents}}) -> this is halfway in between "fake research" and real research. it's a very good show, so it has a couple of actually significant ideas. | |||
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<ol class="hue clean field_horror"> | === Number === | ||
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{{li|I=S1/ | {{li|start=y|I=S2/Fy|tradition=|Q=64,80|Q2=6480}}A world of dragons is a world of adventure -> (definition of the purpose of a fantasy world) | ||
{{li|I=S1/DFy|tradition=|Q=64,89|Q2=6489}}rebuilding civilization after apocalyptic war -> huge war happens in "I have no mouth and I must scream" | |||
{{li|I= | {{li|I=S2/DFy|tradition=|Q=65,09|Q2=6509}}{{film|The Amazing Digital Circus}} -> this is a slightly weird position to put it at but it's meant to be next to "end of the world scenario" in the sense of "heaven"/"Narnia"/"fantastical world that exists after the real world exists". the former, "end of the world scenario", is appropriate to "I have no mouth and I must scream", while "superstructural fantasy world" is simply what the thing is. it has nothing to do with the entries on Christianity except that — and I mean this in a neutral tone — the bible is a kind of mythical world where epic things happen (superstructural fantasy world) and a digital world is also that in its own way.<br/> | ||
"9" is the number of episodes, which for better or worse came to define the narrative structure of the show. | |||
{{li|I= | |||
{{li|I=S2/HAS|tradition=|Q=65,25|Q2=6525|rem=Isaiah 11:6, 65:25}}[[E:Q6525|The wolf shall dwell with the lamb]] -> Garden of Eden as utopian (yet aspirational) fantasy world | |||
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== Characters == | == Characters == | ||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}Pomni ({{cite|Amazing Digital Circus}}) -> she has the most positive outlook of anybody in the circus so she escapes the horror swatch. | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy|Q=618}}Jax -> about five reasons he gets the dark green swatch. no mystery here. | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy|Q=618}}Gangle -> Gangle is [[E:tragedy (theater)|literally a tragedy]], although ironically not the most actually tragic character on the show. | |||
{{li|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}Ragatha | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy|Q=618}}Kinger -> by the time of the last episode it becomes clear one of the best descriptions of him is "halfway scrambled". | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy/WD66|Q=618}}Scratch -> I'm giving him the Gaster swatch because as of episode 8 he is now tightly linked with {{game|Deltarune}} and {{game|Tunic}} in my mind | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy/WD66|Q=618}}Ribbit | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy/WD66|Q=618}}Kaufmo | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy/STM|Q=618}}Caine -> he gets the math swatch because he's a computer program. in one sense which only comes up at the end, digital creatures in the circus are divided into life and unliving chaos, so, in that specific sense Caine is more in order than in chaos as long as he hasn't been destroyed. | |||
{{li | {{li|I=S1/DFy/STM|Q=618}}Bubble -> Caine's weird little unhelpful assistant. weirdly little is said about Bubble in the show. | ||
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== Motifs == | == Motifs == | ||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/DFy/WD66|Q=618}}abstraction ({{cite|Amazing Digital Circus}}) | {{li|start=y|I=S1/DFy/WD66|Q=618}}abstraction ({{cite|Amazing Digital Circus}}) | ||
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=== episode 1 === | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}{{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 1 | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy/ES|Q=618}}day after day and we don't know why / day after day after day after day after... / day after day after... (sense CC) -> one of the most thematic lyrics in the theme song. | |||
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=== episode 2 === | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}{{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 2 | |||
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=== episode 3 === | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}{{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 3 | |||
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=== episode 4 === | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}{{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 4 | |||
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=== episode 5 === | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}{{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 5 | |||
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=== episode 6 === | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}{{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 6 | |||
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=== episode 7 === | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}{{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 7 | |||
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=== episode 8 === | === episode 8 === | ||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/Fy|Q=618}}{{article|hjsakldfhl}} ({{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 8) {{YouTube|DMNlzf8PiEM}} [https://tadc.fandom.com/wiki/Hjsakldfhl] [https://tadc.fandom.com/wiki/Hjsakldfhl/Transcript] | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy/WD66|Q=618}}his ideas were bizarre and abstract / That man was a genius ... his ideas were often so bizarre and abstract that the rest of the team had no idea how to work in his language (Kinger, {{cite|Amazing Digital Circus}} episode 8) / <s>the way he thought was... abstract</s> (misquote) | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy/ES|Q=618}}day after day and we don't know why -> this concept gets flipped on its head in episode 8 as the characters realize that there's nothing normal or inevitable or even fulfilling about "accepting" Caine ruling their lives. I liked that moment because it was one of the moments you could see there was actual thought being put into the show and its overall story arc. honestly, it gave me a bit more hope for what episode 9 would be than I should have had. this was a superbly promising moment that I thought was going to continue, but then... it kind of wasn't really pushed in episode 9, and was more put aside and everything reset to before it was brought up, and in a way was the exact reason episode 9 was subjectively "underwhelming". I still don't think the ending was {{em|bad}} exactly, I think like any of the episodes it was still pretty good for a YouTube video and this is more of a complaint that it was 'good' instead of 'great'. | |||
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=== episode 9 === | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S1/DFy|Q=618}} | {{li|start=y|I=S1/DFy|Q=618}}{{abbr|tts=episode|ep.}} 9 | ||
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== Theories == | == Theories == | ||
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{{li|start=y|I=S2/DFy/ML|Q=618|h4 = Scratch fought for the Communists }} / Scratch fought in World War III for the Communists / The Amazing Digital Circus directly adapts the third world war that happened in "I have no mouth and I must scream" between the United States, the Soviet Union, and China, {{YouTube|sSLsTsQvT9U}} and as a result, there is a global war within the macroverse and there are three major ways that countries attempted to end the war, and Scratch participated in a project to unite all the world's minds into one {{book|Childhood's End|E=Childhood's End (Arthur C. Clarke)}} style in order to end the war; this is to imply but not require that Scratch is a Communist-ally coded character because he willingly participated in something that in other stories has been a metaphor used to discredit Communism -><br/> | {{li|start=y|I=S2/DFy/ML|Q=618|h4 = Scratch fought for the Communists }} / Scratch fought in World War III for the Communists / The Amazing Digital Circus directly adapts the third world war that happened in "I have no mouth and I must scream" between the United States, the Soviet Union, and China, {{YouTube|sSLsTsQvT9U}} and as a result, there is a global war within the macroverse and there are three major ways that countries attempted to end the war, and Scratch participated in a project to unite all the world's minds into one {{book|Childhood's End|E=Childhood's End (Arthur C. Clarke)}} style in order to end the war; this is to imply but not require that Scratch is a Communist-ally coded character because he willingly participated in something that in other stories has been a metaphor used to discredit Communism -><br/> | ||
I don't think I believe this theory but god Scratch is my favorite character already and I can't believe you managed to improve on that. I just love it when superstructural fantasy worlds rupture and somebody with control over the underlying reality takes control of them. I love it even more if somehow that becomes a weird metaphor for [[EC:9k/RD/Q618-FeuerbachAndDeltarune|Materialism]] or Communism. if and only if Scratch is fighting for the Communists then I'll take a World War III 'Caine is {{TTS|AM|Am}}' theory | I don't think I believe this theory but god Scratch is my favorite character already and I can't believe you managed to improve on that. I just love it when [[EC:9k/RD/Q66,90 The Roaring Knight|superstructural fantasy worlds rupture]] and somebody with control over the underlying reality takes control of them. I love it even more if somehow that becomes a weird metaphor for [[EC:9k/RD/Q618-FeuerbachAndDeltarune|Materialism]] or Communism. if and only if Scratch is fighting for the Communists then I'll take a World War III 'Caine is {{TTS|AM|Am}}' theory | ||
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== Related == | == Related == | ||
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{{li|I=Z1/DFy|Q=618}}{{article|I have no mouth, and I must scream}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream] -> major influence on {{film|The Amazing Digital Circus}}. | {{li|I=Z1/DFy|Q=618}}{{article|I have no mouth, and I must scream}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream] -> major influence on {{film|The Amazing Digital Circus}}. | ||
{{li|I=F2/ES|Q=618}}Philosophy can only take place in a vat / Philosophy can only take place inside the Amazing Digital Circus -> I saw somebody actually try to argue like this <time datetime="2025-12-20T22:09:36H">today</time>. I'm tired.<br /> | |||
Caine, this is an equation of a cone. this means determinism is real, even if there's no material world and you can change everything. shut up. | |||
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== Ideologies, fields, or genres == | == Ideologies, fields, or genres == | ||
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{{ | |I=S1/Fy |Q=38,45|Q2=3845}}{{TTS|Fy|Fiction}} / [[E:Q38,45|superstructural fantasy worlds]] | ||
{{li|I=S1/DFy|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|DFy|DarkFantasy}} / psychological horror | |||
{{li|I=S1/DFy|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|Fy|Fantasy}} / fiction about artificial intelligence | |||
{{li|I=S1/ES |Q=42 |Q2=42}}{{TTS|ES|E-S}} / [[E:Q42|existentialism]] | |||
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Latest revision as of 08:54, 20 June 2026
Main entry
- The Amazing Digital Circus
- fake research / (9k) -> this is halfway in between "fake research" and real research. it's a very good show, so it has a couple of actually significant ideas.
Number
- A world of dragons is a world of adventure -> (definition of the purpose of a fantasy world)
- rebuilding civilization after apocalyptic war -> huge war happens in "I have no mouth and I must scream"
- The Amazing Digital Circus -> this is a slightly weird position to put it at but it's meant to be next to "end of the world scenario" in the sense of "heaven"/"Narnia"/"fantastical world that exists after the real world exists". the former, "end of the world scenario", is appropriate to "I have no mouth and I must scream", while "superstructural fantasy world" is simply what the thing is. it has nothing to do with the entries on Christianity except that — and I mean this in a neutral tone — the bible is a kind of mythical world where epic things happen (superstructural fantasy world) and a digital world is also that in its own way.
"9" is the number of episodes, which for better or worse came to define the narrative structure of the show. - The wolf shall dwell with the lamb -> Garden of Eden as utopian (yet aspirational) fantasy world
Characters
- Pomni (Amazing Digital Circus) -> she has the most positive outlook of anybody in the circus so she escapes the horror swatch.
- Jax -> about five reasons he gets the dark green swatch. no mystery here.
- Gangle -> Gangle is literally a tragedy, although ironically not the most actually tragic character on the show.
- Ragatha
- Kinger -> by the time of the last episode it becomes clear one of the best descriptions of him is "halfway scrambled".
- Scratch -> I'm giving him the Gaster swatch because as of episode 8 he is now tightly linked with Deltarune and Tunic in my mind
- Ribbit
- Kaufmo
- Caine -> he gets the math swatch because he's a computer program. in one sense which only comes up at the end, digital creatures in the circus are divided into life and unliving chaos, so, in that specific sense Caine is more in order than in chaos as long as he hasn't been destroyed.
- Bubble -> Caine's weird little unhelpful assistant. weirdly little is said about Bubble in the show.
Motifs
- abstraction (Amazing Digital Circus)
episode 1
- 1
- day after day and we don't know why / day after day after day after day after... / day after day after... (sense CC) -> one of the most thematic lyrics in the theme song.
episode 2
- 2
episode 3
- 3
episode 4
- 4
episode 5
- 5
episode 6
- 6
episode 7
- 7
episode 8
- hjsakldfhl ( 8) [1] [2] [3]
- his ideas were bizarre and abstract / That man was a genius ... his ideas were often so bizarre and abstract that the rest of the team had no idea how to work in his language (Kinger, Amazing Digital Circus episode 8) /
the way he thought was... abstract(misquote) - day after day and we don't know why -> this concept gets flipped on its head in episode 8 as the characters realize that there's nothing normal or inevitable or even fulfilling about "accepting" Caine ruling their lives. I liked that moment because it was one of the moments you could see there was actual thought being put into the show and its overall story arc. honestly, it gave me a bit more hope for what episode 9 would be than I should have had. this was a superbly promising moment that I thought was going to continue, but then... it kind of wasn't really pushed in episode 9, and was more put aside and everything reset to before it was brought up, and in a way was the exact reason episode 9 was subjectively "underwhelming". I still don't think the ending was bad exactly, I think like any of the episodes it was still pretty good for a YouTube video and this is more of a complaint that it was 'good' instead of 'great'.
episode 9
- 9
Theories
Scratch fought for the Communists
/ Scratch fought in World War III for the Communists / The Amazing Digital Circus directly adapts the third world war that happened in "I have no mouth and I must scream" between the United States, the Soviet Union, and China, [4] and as a result, there is a global war within the macroverse and there are three major ways that countries attempted to end the war, and Scratch participated in a project to unite all the world's minds into one Childhood's End style in order to end the war; this is to imply but not require that Scratch is a Communist-ally coded character because he willingly participated in something that in other stories has been a metaphor used to discredit Communism ->
I don't think I believe this theory but god Scratch is my favorite character already and I can't believe you managed to improve on that. I just love it when superstructural fantasy worlds rupture and somebody with control over the underlying reality takes control of them. I love it even more if somehow that becomes a weird metaphor for Materialism or Communism. if and only if Scratch is fighting for the Communists then I'll take a World War III 'Caine is ' theory
Related
- I have no mouth, and I must scream [5] -> major influence on The Amazing Digital Circus.
- Philosophy can only take place in a vat / Philosophy can only take place inside the Amazing Digital Circus -> I saw somebody actually try to argue like this . I'm tired.
Caine, this is an equation of a cone. this means determinism is real, even if there's no material world and you can change everything. shut up.
Ideologies, fields, or genres
- / superstructural fantasy worlds
- / psychological horror
- / fiction about artificial intelligence
- / existentialism