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</li><li class="field_mdem" data-qid="12,092" value="12092" data-dimension="S2" data-submitter="Valenoern">Closed species are a microcosm of capitalism / Closed species are a microcosm of society / The structure of "closed species" fan circles is a limited model of how society functions under capitalism in general, by featuring visible status symbols that people compete for through labor or money and push subtle shame onto each other for only having been able to get the basic ones and not having been able to claim the best ones / Microtransactions to get rare avatars, companions, or cosmetic items are a microcosm of how real-world capitalist societies function


</li><li class="field_ML" data-tradition="MX onto Fy, MX onto ML onto Fy" data-qid="12,1,17" value="12117" data-dimension="S">running a closed species based on the principles of Bolshevism / running an invented-species community based on the principles of Bolshevism  ->  yes, this is a joke, but I do think it's very funny. I mean, just imagine what this would be like if it happened. imagine you have something conceptually kind of like the Chimereon contests and upgrades hub, but the whole design of it from the ground up is totally different. you begin with a unique furry species which has particular characteristics and would be identifiable as a distinct subcategory of fursuits. then you arrive with some absolutely insane lore about the history of the species. you arrive with a whole "tome" explaining the early phases of how this species lived on its planet, and then how it built empires, and how {{em|ultimately}} it tore apart those empires to create some kind of Communist International of several different populations with different appearances or fantasy Trotskyism where the whole planet is just one big socialism; I feel like the first one would work better when I think about the furry reference sheets I've seen. you could go into the whole future period where the furry planet abolishes formal government per se, or not. but when you set up the closed species hub, you have this unusual new set of rules.<br />
</li><li class="field_ML" data-tradition="MX onto Fy, MX onto ML onto Fy" data-qid="12,1,17" value="12117" data-dimension="S">running a closed species based on the principles of Bolshevism / running an invented-species community based on the principles of Bolshevism  ->  yes, this is a joke, but I do think it's very funny. I mean, just imagine what this would be like if it happened. imagine you have something conceptually kind of like the Chimereon contests and upgrades hub, but the whole design of it from the ground up is totally different. you begin with a unique furry species which has particular characteristics and would be identifiable as a distinct subcategory of fursuits. then you arrive with some absolutely insane lore about the history of the species. you arrive with a whole "tome" explaining the early phases of how this species lived on its planet, and then how it built empires, and how {{em|ultimately}} it tore apart those empires to create some kind of Communist International of several different populations with different appearances or fantasy Trotskyism where the whole planet is just one big socialism; I feel like the first one would work better when I think about the furry reference sheets I've seen. you could go into the whole future period where the furry planet abolishes formal government per se, or not. but when you set up the closed species hub, you have this unusual new set of rules.<br />

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Prototype notes

  1. Closed species are a microcosm of capitalism / Closed species are a microcosm of society / The structure of "closed species" fan circles is a limited model of how society functions under capitalism in general, by featuring visible status symbols that people compete for through labor or money and push subtle shame onto each other for only having been able to get the basic ones and not having been able to claim the best ones / Microtransactions to get rare avatars, companions, or cosmetic items are a microcosm of how real-world capitalist societies function
  2. running a closed species based on the principles of Bolshevism / running an invented-species community based on the principles of Bolshevism -> yes, this is a joke, but I do think it's very funny. I mean, just imagine what this would be like if it happened. imagine you have something conceptually kind of like the Chimereon contests and upgrades hub, but the whole design of it from the ground up is totally different. you begin with a unique furry species which has particular characteristics and would be identifiable as a distinct subcategory of fursuits. then you arrive with some absolutely insane lore about the history of the species. you arrive with a whole "tome" explaining the early phases of how this species lived on its planet, and then how it built empires, and how ultimately it tore apart those empires to create some kind of Communist International of several different populations with different appearances or fantasy Trotskyism where the whole planet is just one big socialism; I feel like the first one would work better when I think about the furry reference sheets I've seen. you could go into the whole future period where the furry planet abolishes formal government per se, or not. but when you set up the closed species hub, you have this unusual new set of rules.
    people can make a member of the closed species only if they make it accurate to the lore. they can post art and fiction relating to the species, but it all has to conform to some basic rules that they will write their stories according to Materialism and the stories will follow some kind of sensible physical logic of how you would expect them to unfold, rather than turning into just the author's opinions; you can write things that are not "Communist propaganda" and that cover unrelated or unflattering themes, anything that follows the principles of meta-transitional realism is okay, but you can't write an "Anthem" that is just ouright endorsing anticommunism, and you can't write some very specific kinds of Idealist stories unless for instance we're talking about magic systems where people make ideas real which are being taken literally and are not being used to push an agenda. the structure of the closed species community is not based on buying things or owning things with a price tag. instead the hub community would have like, an abstract ranking system where some people are "central", some people are "peripheral", and some people are "allies". the "central" body is analogous to a national party and you become part of it when you are really good at answering lore questions and questions about societal transitions in relation to the fantasy setting, and then people can come to you for questions. people aren't ranked by their knowledge of "real" Marxism outside the context of the fantasy setting, given how a great number of people in the real world are lost about what's correct between what different Marxisms say anyway, although having that will certainly make it easier to get to central status if you want to. people who can't become experts on the fantasy history can be "peripheral" members, analogous to local parties or representatives. these people would be charged with presenting things "allies" want to the central members and defending their wishes or offering reasonable compromises if the centrals get too rigid about things. some of them might be editing anthologies or putting together guides to different continuities people have created, or perhaps writing their own series of stories, but whatever they do they are obligated to represent some group of "allies" somewhere or they lose peripheral status and become "allies"; allies can recall them and replace them with someone else. there's a different dynamic in that all the high-ranking people specifically get there by serving the people below them and offering help on things they can't do in the correct way people want, and you don't become a high-ranking member just by spending money or being an expert at visual art, etc. "allies" are any fan or creator that has successfully become part of the community and upholds the rules. "allies" or "peripherals" might be allowed to post things just anywhere and create satellite communities on mastodon instances or wherever as long as all the rules are upheld, which would be convenient if people were making tiny lapses that they're bound to make and post something that just barely doesn't fit the standards to be posted on the hub yet isn't enough to get them in trouble. in effect the species would be 98% closed and 2% open, letting you experiment and make mistakes but simply not keeping those.
    pronounced [asdf, laughs in key-smash] should I do this for Ironblood Advance forms. just the tome thing, not the closed species hub thing. it wouldn't even be that weird when they already have lore for the "book/story series", they already kind of exist, so I would just be packaging them up to be especially appealing to furries and like hey here's how you make one of this "open species" but the lore is strictly that they are associated with populations transitioning to Communism or Anarchism, now have fun. maybe I should.
    (note: this Item is meant to "share thematic block" with "closed species", not the Items right near it.)
    closed species are a microcosm of capitalism + transition from capitalism to Bolshevism = this.

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  • MX onto Fy
  • MX onto ML onto Fy