Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q49,57

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4957. Q4957/Q49,57Nikolai Bukharin / ニコライ・ブハーリン [1] -> he quit, but there's not a better range to put him in
4957. Q4957/Q49,57Nikolai Bukharin -> he arguably died a Stalinist, when you see the quotes below.

The hope of the world

618. Q618/Q618he is the hope of the world / Stalin was the hope of the world / I must say that Feuchtwanger did not get at the core of the matter. He stopped half way, not everything was clear to him; when, as a matter of fact, everything is clear. ... you cannot do what Feuchtwanger does in relation to Trotsky in particular, when he places him on the same plane as Stalin. ... For in reality the whole country stands behind Stalin; he is the hope of the world; he is a creator. (Bukharin) [2]
618. Q618/Q618All the people lined up behind Stalin (Krupskaya) [3]

A vast black quagmire

4697. Q4697/Q46,97a vast black vacuity / For three months I refused to say anything. Then I began to testify. Why? Because ... when you ask yourself: "lf you must die, what are you dying for?" — an absolutely black vacuity suddenly rises before you with startling vividness. There was nothing to die for, if one wanted to die unrepented. ... And when you ask yourself: "Very well, suppose you do not die; suppose by some miracle you remain alive, again what for? Isolated from everybody, an enemy of the people, in an inhuman position, completely isolated from everything that constitutes the essence of life..." ... everything personal, till the personal incrustation, all the rancour, pride, and a number of other things, fall away, disappear. ... The logic of this struggle led us step by step into the blackest quagmire. And it has once more been proved that departure from the position of Bolshevism means siding with political counter-revolutionary banditry. (Bukharin)
      Nikolai Bukharin + Trotskyism could never be true = a vast black vacuity.
4693. Q4693/Q46,93why would that masochist let himself be broken / the specifically modern malady which makes such repentant intellectuals radically change their opinions and renounce in a masochistic and exhibitionist manner their own testimony, becoming champions of a cause quite contrary to that which they began serving with great fanfare (Breton) [4]
      Nikolai Bukharin + Why drop out of Trotskyism? = this.
      a vast black vacuity + Why drop out of Trotskyism? = this.
4693. Q4693/Q46,93why would that masochist let himself be broken -> an important thing to note here is that Breton never had to endure the harsh conditions of a Third World country that result in consequences for all a country's citizens if the government doesn't make them all do exactly what the First World wants (generally, using up the world's resources and churning out wealth in order to prevent war and all actions against the law). today, Dengism commits "atrocities" mostly to appease the First World, so it follows that some unclear fraction of the things Stalin's government did happened for the same reasons. and Stalin was definitely preferable to Deng, because he actually believed in developing Soviet civilization through skipping over capitalism to the era of socialism rather than just treating transition to capitalism as the goal of Marxism. it's all too easy to be "anti-Stalinist" because you don't actually believe in skipping capitalism and are fine with letting capitalism run free over the earth so countries can dominate each other and treat each other as superior and inferior races, all to make getting to Trotskyism easier. so if you're going to take a stance against Stalin what you have to do is recognize that the world's populations are plural and in physical contradiction almost trying to kill each other just because they're populations of living breathing organisms, and then you have to find a way that the necessarily plural populations of the world can come together into a greater object without breaking down their defenses against each other or creating an elite center of theorists that has to exert control over everyone else just to manage that baseline state of plural populations competing against each other. crack that problem and Trotskyism actually starts to look credible.

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4103. Q4103/Q41,03ML (pronounced M-L) / Stalin's Marxism
618. Q618/Q618IV (pronounced Fourth) / early Trotskyism
618. Q618/Q618Zv (pronounced Ziv) / Trotskyist secret operations

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