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{{li|start=y|I=S2/MN|Q=18,46|Q2=1846|h4= France and Germany together }} (1847) / The workers' revolutions in France and Germany will not be independent, but will build off each other (Marx 1847) [https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htm] / Their battle-cry must be permanent revolution (Marx; generic) -><br/> | {{li|start=y|I=S2/MN|Q=18,46|Q2=1846|h4= France and Germany together }} (1847) / The workers' revolutions in France and Germany will not be independent, but will build off each other (Marx 1847) [https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htm] / Their battle-cry must be permanent revolution (Marx; generic) -><br/> | ||
it didn't really go that way, did it? it was more like, Eastern Europe and Germany together behind the Soviet Union, with both of them coming out as flawed messes in different ways. | it didn't really go that way, did it? it was more like, Eastern Europe and Germany together behind the Soviet Union, with both of them coming out as flawed messes in different ways. | ||
{{li|I=S2/MX|Q=18,46|Q2=1846}}Marx's strategy for transforming Germany sounded more like Trotskyism than it did like Deng Xiaoping Thought -> the first plank if you want to defeat "Marx believed in co-op theory" / "Marx believed in Menshevism". China and Vietnam are each going through slow transformations. Marx describes a quick and thorough process of removing all the upper classes and handing each property structure to the emerging workers' state instead of managing the same thing in any way it was before. [https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htm] there's none of this "we have to compromise between the three classes of China / Korea" stuff where Mao accidentally (?) recreates the medieval estate system. | |||
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|I=S1/MN|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|MN|M.N.}} / early Marxism | |I=S1/MN|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{TTS|MN|M.N.}} / early Marxism | ||
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{{li|I=S1/MX|Q=44,44|Q2=4444}}{{TTS|MX|meta-Marxism}} / Trotskyism as meta-Marxism | |||
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Main entry
- permanent revolution (Trotskyism) / international permanent revolution (meta-Marxism onto Stalin's Marxism) / worldwide revolution
- nationalism (George Orwell) / (9k) -> I put permanent revolution next to this one, because it is an absolutely delicious refutation of what Orwell was ranting about and tried to depict in 1984.
Marx and worldwide revolution
France and Germany together
(1847) / The workers' revolutions in France and Germany will not be independent, but will build off each other (Marx 1847) [1] / Their battle-cry must be permanent revolution (Marx; generic) ->
it didn't really go that way, did it? it was more like, Eastern Europe and Germany together behind the Soviet Union, with both of them coming out as flawed messes in different ways.
- Marx's strategy for transforming Germany sounded more like Trotskyism than it did like Deng Xiaoping Thought -> the first plank if you want to defeat "Marx believed in co-op theory" / "Marx believed in Menshevism". China and Vietnam are each going through slow transformations. Marx describes a quick and thorough process of removing all the upper classes and handing each property structure to the emerging workers' state instead of managing the same thing in any way it was before. [2] there's none of this "we have to compromise between the three classes of China / Korea" stuff where Mao accidentally (?) recreates the medieval estate system.
Related
Stalinists were a counterrevolution
/ Stalinism begins when older forms of society crush the proletarian revolution; this is to imply it is similar to when the Jacobins were defeated in the French Revolution / (9k)
Ideologies or fields
- / early Marxism
- / Trotskyism
- / Trotskyism as meta-Marxism