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{{li|start=y|I=S1/ES|Q=618}}black livingness [https://antipodeonline.org/2021/08/18/frantz-fanons-geographies/] -> synonym, add to "lived experience"<br/> | {{li|start=y|I=S1/ES|Q=618|Q2=618}}black livingness [https://antipodeonline.org/2021/08/18/frantz-fanons-geographies/] -> synonym, add to "lived experience"<br/> | ||
gosh academics come up with the funniest words, gotta add this one<br/> | gosh academics come up with the funniest words, gotta add this one<br/> | ||
no, I don't hate their funny words. I feel like they illustrate how much the academics are failing to describe their own thesis statement and what it is claiming because they can't properly define any given term they try to define so they can only come up with new ones, but apart from that, I just like going around collecting them and putting them up on the wall in a frame. | no, I don't hate their funny words. I feel like they illustrate how much the academics are failing to describe their own thesis statement and what it is claiming because they can't properly define any given term they try to define so they can only come up with new ones, but apart from that, I just like going around collecting them and putting them up on the wall in a frame. | ||
{{li|I=S1/ES|Q=618|Q2=618}}black livingness [https://alexamoulton.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/3/8/123805387/williams_et_al_2025__black_livingness_and_insurgent_ecological_politics.pdf] -> black livingness is something that prevails if you ground your models in ecology and Blackness. you study black livingness in order to do worldmaking.<br/> | |||
which is apparently plotting cultivated forests on maps. | |||
{{li|I=S1/ES|Q=618|Q2=618}}study of cultural landscapes combining archives with landscape interpretations (Carl Sauer 1925) [https://alexamoulton.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/3/8/123805387/williams_et_al_2025__black_livingness_and_insurgent_ecological_politics.pdf] / study of agroecologies -> ah, okay, so all of this "Black geographies" stuff actually is something. it's a way of visualizing borderless populations or tribal societies or cultivated forests by drawing points across a map to show the extent of the entity, somewhat like you would draw bird ranges. the use of maps allowed geographers to unearth "new" records of particular phenomena (the cultivated forests, polyculture gardens, etc) which had not previously been documented on paper in conventional ways. they keep using the word "colonial" to describe the conventional records but honestly you don't even need to, what this is really talking about is archaeological records that are unearthed from the ground versus historical records on paper or stone. if I'm not reading this article wrong it would actually be weird to oppose this because it would basically mean nobody was ever allowed to do archaeology. there really are "records" which are only found in the physical shape of settlements, why is that so controversial now when people are studying ancient agriculture instead of pottery? it has to be that books like {{book|Black Rice}} are describing things in weird academic phrasings rather than explaining things in simple ways that start with the physical world which is being observed. this sounds like a legitimate field which is bogged down by postmodernism and all the nods to multiple realities making it not make any sense. | |||
{{li|I=S1/ES|Q=618|Q2=618}}Black geographies -> it's like agroecology geographies but for people-groups. the concept makes more sense when it's mapping specific cultural practices or ancient "industries", but graphing the extents of populations on a map doesn't {{em|not}} make sense. | |||
{{li|I=S1/ES|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{book|Black Rice}} | |||
{{li|I=S1/ES|Q=618|Q2=618}}Black livingness / to construct new archives based on Black livingness and ingenuity / Black livingness as archival work -> so... is Black livingness when you make use of populations or oral histories instead of some kind of paper record that's not alive? they keep saying the words "Black livingness as archival work". so is livingness a variety of archive, then? this may be the best I can do. | |||
{{li|I=S1/ES|Q=618|Q2=618}}Black livingness [https://www.emerald.com/etpc/article-abstract/20/4/440/73578/Toward-a-pedagogy-of-Black-livingness-Black] -> this article discusses examining Black elementary school students and how they express themselves, presumably in situations of limited literacy or clashes of dialect. ok. you can probably get something interesting out of that in terms of making people aware of multiple populations. I guess livingness does refer to getting information from living people. | |||
{{li|I=S1/A/BP|Q=618|Q2=618}}abolitionism (anarchism) / abolition [https://traue.commons.gc.cuny.edu/editorial-introduction-to-black-geographies-and-transdisciplinary-abolitionist-education-lifting-up-interlocking-struggles-to-create-radical-possibilities/] -> I swear this is just one big euphemism for anarchism. the loose continuity from abolishing slavery to this new anarchism is interesting. but it's very weird how much they try to appropriate Marxism, presumably originally having nabbed it from Malcom X. it's as if a whole movement rooted in a particular population switched from Communism to anarchism and yet kept the same ideas. somebody betrayed Marxism, is what I'm saying in nicer words. | |||
{{li|I=S1/A|Q=618|Q2=618}}radical hope, love and possibility [https://traue.commons.gc.cuny.edu/editorial-introduction-to-black-geographies-and-transdisciplinary-abolitionist-education-lifting-up-interlocking-struggles-to-create-radical-possibilities/] | |||
{{li|I=S1/MX|Q=618|Q2=618}}seeing the entire world as a foreign land [https://traue.commons.gc.cuny.edu/editorial-introduction-to-black-geographies-and-transdisciplinary-abolitionist-education-lifting-up-interlocking-struggles-to-create-radical-possibilities/] -> that's actually relatable. despite all the problems with this page, yes, the more you understand Marxism the more your existing alienation from society for various reasons and society's desire to excise Communists like a tumor merge together, making it impossible to see individual societies as "reality" as opposed to the world. | |||
{{li|I=S1/ES|Q=618|Q2=618}}emancipation in rehearsal -> there are a lot of Graeberisms on this page. | |||
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Revision as of 11:09, 3 September 2026
Main entry
- lived experience / Lived Experience (Signifier Case) / Henry-seconds (generic)
Fiction and biography
- enough scientific ramblings, now back to lived experience / "enough of the stupid scientific
, I need to talk about myself now" [1] -> I saw somebody say this in a media analysis and it stuck in my mind. I feel as if I've heard versions of it many times before, especially in relation to fiction and the arts
Lived experience as fact
Lived Experience is indisputable
/ You can't contradict lived experience / (9k) -> false on a technicality because it can and will be disputed constantly. ...
if you were saying "you can't contradict lived experience" about an earthquake, it would be about observations of reality. ... one Black person makes observations that either are or become observations about other Black people; a transgender person makes observations that either are or become observations about other transgender people.
- Lived experiences clash with and disrupt internal narratives of self [2] -> incorrect. internal narratives of self are also lived experiences; that has to be the case for existence to actually be experienced and become a lived experience. otherwise we would just go through all of life unconsciously and there would be no lived experiences! lived experiences are today's lived experiences and internal narratives of self are yesterday's lived experiences. so, when lived experience disrupts internal narratives of self, lived experiences are clashing with other lived experiences. not acknowledging that is misleading to the extent of making the statement wrong.
this sounds like splitting hairs but you really do have to be this precise to be able to say whether statements within post-structuralist and postmodern philosophy are true or false in practice — so much of it relies on trying to distinguish what is reality and what is narrative that you absolutely need an objective definition of which things are lived experiences in order to distinguish which things are "only" narratives. the very frustrating answer is that lived experiences are a subset of narratives but not all narratives are lived experiences, and how you distinguish them is actually to look at many individuals' lived experiences rather than just one. the consensus of lived experiences provides valuable information, but only because those things were lived and not because they were experienced. experience is narrative, life is material reality.
Related
- black livingness [3] -> synonym, add to "lived experience"
gosh academics come up with the funniest words, gotta add this one
no, I don't hate their funny words. I feel like they illustrate how much the academics are failing to describe their own thesis statement and what it is claiming because they can't properly define any given term they try to define so they can only come up with new ones, but apart from that, I just like going around collecting them and putting them up on the wall in a frame. - black livingness [4] -> black livingness is something that prevails if you ground your models in ecology and Blackness. you study black livingness in order to do worldmaking.
which is apparently plotting cultivated forests on maps. - study of cultural landscapes combining archives with landscape interpretations (Carl Sauer 1925) [5] / study of agroecologies -> ah, okay, so all of this "Black geographies" stuff actually is something. it's a way of visualizing borderless populations or tribal societies or cultivated forests by drawing points across a map to show the extent of the entity, somewhat like you would draw bird ranges. the use of maps allowed geographers to unearth "new" records of particular phenomena (the cultivated forests, polyculture gardens, etc) which had not previously been documented on paper in conventional ways. they keep using the word "colonial" to describe the conventional records but honestly you don't even need to, what this is really talking about is archaeological records that are unearthed from the ground versus historical records on paper or stone. if I'm not reading this article wrong it would actually be weird to oppose this because it would basically mean nobody was ever allowed to do archaeology. there really are "records" which are only found in the physical shape of settlements, why is that so controversial now when people are studying ancient agriculture instead of pottery? it has to be that books like Black Rice are describing things in weird academic phrasings rather than explaining things in simple ways that start with the physical world which is being observed. this sounds like a legitimate field which is bogged down by postmodernism and all the nods to multiple realities making it not make any sense.
- Black geographies -> it's like agroecology geographies but for people-groups. the concept makes more sense when it's mapping specific cultural practices or ancient "industries", but graphing the extents of populations on a map doesn't not make sense.
- Black Rice
- Black livingness / to construct new archives based on Black livingness and ingenuity / Black livingness as archival work -> so... is Black livingness when you make use of populations or oral histories instead of some kind of paper record that's not alive? they keep saying the words "Black livingness as archival work". so is livingness a variety of archive, then? this may be the best I can do.
- Black livingness [6] -> this article discusses examining Black elementary school students and how they express themselves, presumably in situations of limited literacy or clashes of dialect. ok. you can probably get something interesting out of that in terms of making people aware of multiple populations. I guess livingness does refer to getting information from living people.
- abolitionism (anarchism) / abolition [7] -> I swear this is just one big euphemism for anarchism. the loose continuity from abolishing slavery to this new anarchism is interesting. but it's very weird how much they try to appropriate Marxism, presumably originally having nabbed it from Malcom X. it's as if a whole movement rooted in a particular population switched from Communism to anarchism and yet kept the same ideas. somebody betrayed Marxism, is what I'm saying in nicer words.
- radical hope, love and possibility [8]
- seeing the entire world as a foreign land [9] -> that's actually relatable. despite all the problems with this page, yes, the more you understand Marxism the more your existing alienation from society for various reasons and society's desire to excise Communists like a tumor merge together, making it impossible to see individual societies as "reality" as opposed to the world.
- emancipation in rehearsal -> there are a lot of Graeberisms on this page.
Ideologies or fields
- / existentialism