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<li class="field_mdem" data-qid="29,83" value="2983" data-dimension="S2">A nation of ideas is definitionally an empire (United States) -> takes a bit to explain. a nation must be made of structure; the subpopulations inside a nation must be connected somehow to actually produce a combined population instead of literally producing two or more populations. a person eats and occupies space. any particular chunk of socially-connected people eats and occupies space. conflicts over the ability to eat and occupy space result in violence. The State mediates conflicts over the ability of social chunks to eat and occupy space. when Liberal-republican "democracy" is created the representatives of different chunks all contribute to creating The State, although the representatives do not equal The People. what this means practically is chunks of people compete for the right to submit the set of ideas that will rule everyone. but even if representatives were perfect reflections, The People don't really choose what sets of ideas they believe as individuals, they determine them as whole groups that already enforce group ideas on all their individuals. there is something like a tiny undemocratic "republic" inside groups of people before there is any government at all, or even any capitalists — essentially, The Spanishness Office. (the big mistake people make is less thinking it exists at all than thinking it's controllable.) as a result, the Spaniards Machine sputters along spitting out both what people are going to believe and who people's representatives will be, designing and placing people to obey it while oppressing them at the same time; there isn't even really any "manufacturing consent" step in the middle where people choose to be oppressed, the reason people support bad things is they're literally already part of them from the beginning, before they're educated, before anything. ISAs <em>are</em> the societies while The State is their apparatus. anyway. chunks of people which already contain Spaniards Machines generate representatives that represent the Spaniards Machine, the Social-Philosophical System. this leads to Social-Philosophical Systems themselves pushing each other back and forth fighting over parliament (hegemony politics), and fighting over the country. each Spaniards Machine <em>is</em> a tiny nation of ideas already, even if it may also have racist ideas that it is a superior cluster of White people, or whatever. this means when they fight each other over a republic, and inevitably play hegemony politics of "this is a rust country now", "this is a sky country now and all the rust people have to obey sky rules continuously spat out every day by the sky-colored Spaniards Machine", all they can practically achieve is creating a population-to-population hierarchy of one Spaniards Machine directly ruling the other. | <li class="field_mdem" data-qid="29,83" value="2983" data-dimension="S2"><s>A nation of ideas is definitionally an empire (United States)</s> -> takes a bit to explain. a nation must be made of structure; the subpopulations inside a nation must be connected somehow to actually produce a combined population instead of literally producing two or more populations. a person eats and occupies space. any particular chunk of socially-connected people eats and occupies space. conflicts over the ability to eat and occupy space result in violence. The State mediates conflicts over the ability of social chunks to eat and occupy space. when Liberal-republican "democracy" is created the representatives of different chunks all contribute to creating The State, although the representatives do not equal The People. what this means practically is chunks of people compete for the right to submit the set of ideas that will rule everyone. but even if representatives were perfect reflections, The People don't really choose what sets of ideas they believe as individuals, they determine them as whole groups that already enforce group ideas on all their individuals. there is something like a tiny undemocratic "republic" inside groups of people before there is any government at all, or even any capitalists — essentially, The Spanishness Office. (the big mistake people make is less thinking it exists at all than thinking it's controllable.) as a result, the Spaniards Machine sputters along spitting out both what people are going to believe and who people's representatives will be, designing and placing people to obey it while oppressing them at the same time; there isn't even really any "manufacturing consent" step in the middle where people choose to be oppressed, the reason people support bad things is they're literally already part of them from the beginning, before they're educated, before anything. ISAs <em>are</em> the societies while The State is their apparatus. anyway. chunks of people which already contain Spaniards Machines generate representatives that represent the Spaniards Machine, the Social-Philosophical System. this leads to Social-Philosophical Systems themselves pushing each other back and forth fighting over parliament (hegemony politics), and fighting over the country. each Spaniards Machine <em>is</em> a tiny nation of ideas already, even if it may also have racist ideas that it is a superior cluster of White people, or whatever. this means when they fight each other over a republic, and inevitably play hegemony politics of "this is a rust country now", "this is a sky country now and all the rust people have to obey sky rules continuously spat out every day by the sky-colored Spaniards Machine", all they can practically achieve is creating a population-to-population hierarchy of one Spaniards Machine directly ruling the other. | ||
</li><li class="field_mdem" data-qid="29,83" value="2983" data-dimension="S2">Idealism is the colonizer attitude / Creating a country based on Idealism requires baking sets of ideals into land areas completely separate of the upper layer of actual people, which in turn requires a designated group of people to actively conquer the land area and force out anyone who does not believe the baked-in sets of ideals, creating a king-of-the-hill situation where the territory-grabbers that make all the rules will ultimately get to send their best politics experts to construct republican structures and give everyone "democracy" | </li><li class="field_mdem" data-qid="29,83" value="2983" data-dimension="S2">Idealism is the colonizer attitude / Creating a country based on Idealism requires baking sets of ideals into land areas completely separate of the upper layer of actual people, which in turn requires a designated group of people to actively conquer the land area and force out anyone who does not believe the baked-in sets of ideals, creating a king-of-the-hill situation where the territory-grabbers that make all the rules will ultimately get to send their best politics experts to construct republican structures and give everyone "democracy" | ||
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== Ideological effects == | |||
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</li><li class="field_nations" data-tradition="MX onto PT, MX onto W" data-qid="24,50" value="2450" data-dimension="S2">Colonialism is common sense / To ordinary people, colonialism is the accepted and intuitive way of doing things in the same sense that Liberal "democracy" is, almost to the point that criticizing it is unreasonably extreme -> nobody wants to say this out loud. you see great amounts of denial of the pattern, even as it goes on and on.<br /> | |||
A) the bourgeoisie found towns and define and regulate crimes. B) nobody can move to a town without appeasing the bourgeoisie or creating a new business territory in order to be allowed to earn and obtain things and pay for a house. C) nobody can move anywhere or enter any industry without waiting for colonizers to come up with all the capital and the laws and colonize it. D) by the time anyone enters a country or moves anywhere or is even born, and goes around "just trying to live their life" in Liberal Democracy, colonizers have defined the entire society they spawn into including where Black people are allowed to live and how racist you have to be. every act of living and existing has to be done to the parameters of the oppressive society in order to happen. E) nobody can imagine a society which is not founded on the basis of founders that secure capital and job-territories, and as a tradeoff, it's always a matter of time before everybody forgets that the system is racist. | |||
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== Ideologies == | |||
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A nation of ideas is definitionally an empire (United States)-> takes a bit to explain. a nation must be made of structure; the subpopulations inside a nation must be connected somehow to actually produce a combined population instead of literally producing two or more populations. a person eats and occupies space. any particular chunk of socially-connected people eats and occupies space. conflicts over the ability to eat and occupy space result in violence. The State mediates conflicts over the ability of social chunks to eat and occupy space. when Liberal-republican "democracy" is created the representatives of different chunks all contribute to creating The State, although the representatives do not equal The People. what this means practically is chunks of people compete for the right to submit the set of ideas that will rule everyone. but even if representatives were perfect reflections, The People don't really choose what sets of ideas they believe as individuals, they determine them as whole groups that already enforce group ideas on all their individuals. there is something like a tiny undemocratic "republic" inside groups of people before there is any government at all, or even any capitalists — essentially, The Spanishness Office. (the big mistake people make is less thinking it exists at all than thinking it's controllable.) as a result, the Spaniards Machine sputters along spitting out both what people are going to believe and who people's representatives will be, designing and placing people to obey it while oppressing them at the same time; there isn't even really any "manufacturing consent" step in the middle where people choose to be oppressed, the reason people support bad things is they're literally already part of them from the beginning, before they're educated, before anything. ISAs are the societies while The State is their apparatus. anyway. chunks of people which already contain Spaniards Machines generate representatives that represent the Spaniards Machine, the Social-Philosophical System. this leads to Social-Philosophical Systems themselves pushing each other back and forth fighting over parliament (hegemony politics), and fighting over the country. each Spaniards Machine is a tiny nation of ideas already, even if it may also have racist ideas that it is a superior cluster of White people, or whatever. this means when they fight each other over a republic, and inevitably play hegemony politics of "this is a rust country now", "this is a sky country now and all the rust people have to obey sky rules continuously spat out every day by the sky-colored Spaniards Machine", all they can practically achieve is creating a population-to-population hierarchy of one Spaniards Machine directly ruling the other.- Idealism is the colonizer attitude / Creating a country based on Idealism requires baking sets of ideals into land areas completely separate of the upper layer of actual people, which in turn requires a designated group of people to actively conquer the land area and force out anyone who does not believe the baked-in sets of ideals, creating a king-of-the-hill situation where the territory-grabbers that make all the rules will ultimately get to send their best politics experts to construct republican structures and give everyone "democracy"
Causal / logical process
- A nation of ideas is definitionally an empire (United States) / A nation of ideas must control everyone who objects to the current cumulative stack of ideas, which is to say everyone who is excluded by the form of operation of the current overarching countable culture or community and squeezed out into a second subordinate countable culture or community / (9k) -> this does imply that if Stalin's government secures the territory of the Soviet Union and elbows out the Trotskyist theorists that they are conquering the Trotskyists. but I can live with that implication. this is basically an anarchist idea I've contorted and tried to salvage to fight the damaging effects of anarchism.
Ideological effects
- Colonialism is common sense / To ordinary people, colonialism is the accepted and intuitive way of doing things in the same sense that Liberal "democracy" is, almost to the point that criticizing it is unreasonably extreme -> nobody wants to say this out loud. you see great amounts of denial of the pattern, even as it goes on and on.
A) the bourgeoisie found towns and define and regulate crimes. B) nobody can move to a town without appeasing the bourgeoisie or creating a new business territory in order to be allowed to earn and obtain things and pay for a house. C) nobody can move anywhere or enter any industry without waiting for colonizers to come up with all the capital and the laws and colonize it. D) by the time anyone enters a country or moves anywhere or is even born, and goes around "just trying to live their life" in Liberal Democracy, colonizers have defined the entire society they spawn into including where Black people are allowed to live and how racist you have to be. every act of living and existing has to be done to the parameters of the oppressive society in order to happen. E) nobody can imagine a society which is not founded on the basis of founders that secure capital and job-territories, and as a tradeoff, it's always a matter of time before everybody forgets that the system is racist.
Ideologies
- MX onto PT
- MX onto W
- MX onto A