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== Prototype notes ==
== Usage notes ==


* Would this description or argument be inherently objectionable to Leon Trotsky?
* This test usually does not apply if the work is a Trotskyist work.
** This question usually does not apply if the work is a Trotskyist work, although there could be small exceptions for a version of Trotskyism that Trotsky had huge problems with.
** There could be small exceptions for a version of Trotskyism that Trotsky had huge problems with.
** This test is definitely going to surprise some people with when it pops up. It could pop up when Stalin is talking about protecting consensuses. It could pop up when someone casually spouts a statement of anticommunism and then goes on and on about some weird Existentialist model of Free Will. If that's the only good thing about him, Trotsky would not let that stand.
* This test only rarely applies to mainstream Marxist-Leninist works. Most of the time there is another test that cancels this one out, like the [[redlink|historical accuracy test]].
** To put it bluntly: if Trotsky's objection in context would be historically inaccurate, a lie, or impossible to parse into a coherent criticism, then it doesn't count.
* This test almost always applies to Existentialist works. If someone casually spouts a statement of anticommunism and then proceeds to go on and on about some weird Existentialist model of how Free Will will definitely fix democracy, it's very possible you can fail the work with this test.
* Citations are not required on rating pages, though it is highly recommended to link some kind of citation if this is used on an ordinary Item page. Doing this will build up an ontology of exactly how to perform the test.
* Remember: communication rating levels do not give a definitive account of whether a piece of information is true, only whether it is worth listening to for ordinary people.




[[Category:Properties accepting an Item value]] [[Category:Communication rating levels ontology]]
[[Category:Properties accepting an Item value]] [[Category:Properties accepting a communication rating level]] [[Category:Communication rating levels ontology]]

Revision as of 11:59, 17 May 2025

  1. "Trotsky test"
"Trotsky test"
field value

Characteristics in draft

Properties

item type
P
alias (en)
Would this description or argument be inherently objectionable to Leon Trotsky?
communication question 04: "Trotsky test"
QID references
P200 rating / communication rating level
color swatch references
Property data type
item
instance of
communication rating level

Usage notes

  • This test usually does not apply if the work is a Trotskyist work.
    • There could be small exceptions for a version of Trotskyism that Trotsky had huge problems with.
  • This test only rarely applies to mainstream Marxist-Leninist works. Most of the time there is another test that cancels this one out, like the historical accuracy test.
    • To put it bluntly: if Trotsky's objection in context would be historically inaccurate, a lie, or impossible to parse into a coherent criticism, then it doesn't count.
  • This test almost always applies to Existentialist works. If someone casually spouts a statement of anticommunism and then proceeds to go on and on about some weird Existentialist model of how Free Will will definitely fix democracy, it's very possible you can fail the work with this test.
  • Citations are not required on rating pages, though it is highly recommended to link some kind of citation if this is used on an ordinary Item page. Doing this will build up an ontology of exactly how to perform the test.
  • Remember: communication rating levels do not give a definitive account of whether a piece of information is true, only whether it is worth listening to for ordinary people.