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{{li|I=S2/DX/ML|Q=618}}Call using bourgeoisie a retreat / To conceal from the people the fact that recruiting bourgeois experts ("[[E:Careerist layer (meta-Marxism)|Careerists]]") with high salaries is a retreat from the standards of proletarian movements would be sinking to the level of bourgeois politicians and deceiving the people (Lenin 1918) -> wow, Lenin stirred up some absolute {{em|dirt}} on Deng Xiaoping Thought. I feel like Deng Xiaoping states conceal the significance of this kind of thing all the time. you'd think they'd be willing to say the word "retreat" rather than go on about the "socialist market economy" if they knew what they were talking about. | {{li|I=S2/DX/ML|Q=618}}Call using bourgeoisie a retreat / To conceal from the people the fact that recruiting bourgeois experts ("[[E:Careerist layer (meta-Marxism)|Careerists]]") with high salaries is a retreat from the standards of proletarian movements would be sinking to the level of bourgeois politicians and deceiving the people (Lenin 1918) -> wow, Lenin stirred up some absolute {{em|dirt}} on Deng Xiaoping Thought. I feel like Deng Xiaoping states conceal the significance of this kind of thing all the time. you'd think they'd be willing to say the word "retreat" rather than go on about the "socialist market economy" if they knew what they were talking about. | ||
{{li|I=S2/ML|Q=618}}Without proper development of the Bolshevik mono-structure which all goods pass through and which records and controls their distribution ("comprehensive state accounting and control of the production and distribution of goods"), the freedom of the working people cannot be maintained, and capitalism will be restored -> this seems like a really critical point. because it seems like it's saying that a country like China, Cuba, North Korea, or Vietnam having half the society be private businesses is a serious problem that halts socialist transition. or by some definitions {{em|is}} it; the mono-structure comes up in relation to the second transition to upper-phase communism too, in things like ultimately making it possible to get rid of money. | |||
{{li|I=S2/ML|Q=618}}Anarchism and anarcho-syndicalism are bourgeois trends, inasmuch as they resist state control and uphold private property and separate free-floating businesses as a fundamental right; in being irreconcilably opposed to forming a nation-wide Bolshevik mono-structure, they are irreconcilably opposed to socialism and the dictatorship of the proletariat -> I am so glad when Marxist theorists say things like this because oh man anarchists are so annoying. they will come up with all these unreal distortions of property or dividing society being "fundamental human rights" and how separating people into tiny societies of one supposedly makes everybody respect each other and everybody is the same and classes cannot exist. none of it makes any sense and I cannot stand it. pretty much everything Lenin says makes vastly more coherent sense<br/> | |||
I think when the world is so screwed now you fundamentally have to find ways of referring to what Lenin calls "state control" without referring to a "state". we really live in an age of anarchism now, not an age of countries which just escaped feudalism, and there is this widespread misconception that ever thinking of people as being inside a state instead of only belonging to themselves and being free to pick on any other country or ethnic group is somehow "colonialism" or something. this is why I tend toward phrases like "Bolshevik mono-structure". if you can totally separate the things the state does from talking about a formal government and fool people into thinking they did it all "themselves" as free-floating individuals then {{em|maybe}} we still have a chance | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S2/MX/W|Q=618}}Recruiting bourgeois specialists during proletarian revolution is valuable because they will likely be put to use in building up the new economy -> these events have some really interesting 'subtext' for how they apply to Gramscianism. | |||
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Revision as of 23:11, 24 April 2026
Main entry
- The Immediate Tasks of the Soviet Government (Lenin 1918) [1]
Motifs or claims
- When a soviet socialist republic is sandwiched between competing empires, it's time to rebuild (Lenin 1918)
- The fight against the kulaks ends in creating the Bolshevik mono-structure ("raising the productivity of labor on the national scale", creating nation-wide "accounting"; Lenin 1918)
- Call using bourgeoisie a retreat / To conceal from the people the fact that recruiting bourgeois experts ("Careerists") with high salaries is a retreat from the standards of proletarian movements would be sinking to the level of bourgeois politicians and deceiving the people (Lenin 1918) -> wow, Lenin stirred up some absolute dirt on Deng Xiaoping Thought. I feel like Deng Xiaoping states conceal the significance of this kind of thing all the time. you'd think they'd be willing to say the word "retreat" rather than go on about the "socialist market economy" if they knew what they were talking about.
- Without proper development of the Bolshevik mono-structure which all goods pass through and which records and controls their distribution ("comprehensive state accounting and control of the production and distribution of goods"), the freedom of the working people cannot be maintained, and capitalism will be restored -> this seems like a really critical point. because it seems like it's saying that a country like China, Cuba, North Korea, or Vietnam having half the society be private businesses is a serious problem that halts socialist transition. or by some definitions is it; the mono-structure comes up in relation to the second transition to upper-phase communism too, in things like ultimately making it possible to get rid of money.
- Anarchism and anarcho-syndicalism are bourgeois trends, inasmuch as they resist state control and uphold private property and separate free-floating businesses as a fundamental right; in being irreconcilably opposed to forming a nation-wide Bolshevik mono-structure, they are irreconcilably opposed to socialism and the dictatorship of the proletariat -> I am so glad when Marxist theorists say things like this because oh man anarchists are so annoying. they will come up with all these unreal distortions of property or dividing society being "fundamental human rights" and how separating people into tiny societies of one supposedly makes everybody respect each other and everybody is the same and classes cannot exist. none of it makes any sense and I cannot stand it. pretty much everything Lenin says makes vastly more coherent sense
I think when the world is so screwed now you fundamentally have to find ways of referring to what Lenin calls "state control" without referring to a "state". we really live in an age of anarchism now, not an age of countries which just escaped feudalism, and there is this widespread misconception that ever thinking of people as being inside a state instead of only belonging to themselves and being free to pick on any other country or ethnic group is somehow "colonialism" or something. this is why I tend toward phrases like "Bolshevik mono-structure". if you can totally separate the things the state does from talking about a formal government and fool people into thinking they did it all "themselves" as free-floating individuals then maybe we still have a chance
Subjective themes
- Recruiting bourgeois specialists during proletarian revolution is valuable because they will likely be put to use in building up the new economy -> these events have some really interesting 'subtext' for how they apply to Gramscianism.
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Ideology codes
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⧼hue-ins-domain-spacer/⧽ML / dialectical materialism
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⧼hue-ins-domain-spacer/⧽ML / Vladimir Lenin
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- DX / Deng Xiaoping Thought
- ML onto DX