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{{li|start=y|I=S2/PT|Q=618|Q2=618}} | {{li|start=y|I=S2/PT|Q=618|Q2=618|h4= iron rule }} / Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you (game theory, Toryism, Gramscianism) / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (science fiction; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics] | ||
{{li|I=S2/W|Q=618|Q2=618}} | {{li|I=S2/W|Q=618|Q2=618|h4= lead rule }} / Do unto others {{em|as}} they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you (game theory, Toryism, Gramscianism) / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98|9k]]) | ||
{{li|I=S2/ | {{li|I=S2/LR|Q=618|h4= uranium rule }} / Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do (uranium inverse) / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (game theory, Liberal-republicanism) / [[E:Stupidity filters up|Stupidity filters up]] (existential materialism; generic) / {{nickel|YT/CynicalArtKillingHope26|Cynical art is killing hope}} / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule|9k]]) | ||
{{li|I=S2/DX|Q=618}} | {{li|I=S2/DX|Q=618|h4= americium rule }} / Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Do not what will filter down (americium inverse) / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you / sword of Damocles (generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Damocles] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule|9k]]) | ||
{{li|I=S2/ | {{li|I=S2/DX|Q=618|Q2=618|h4= hydrogen rule }} / Do unto other countries as other countries should do unto you / Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) -> countries are sometimes but not always separated by water, as with Japan, the Korean peninsula, or England and France. water contains hydrogen ions. | ||
{{li|I=S2/ | {{li|I=S2/LR|Q=618|Q2=618|h4= palladium rule }} / Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / [[E:Give Jesus your coat|Give Jesus your coat]] (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position] / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q50,98|9k]]) | ||
{{li|I=S2/LLM/ES|Q=618|Q2=618|h4= silicon rule }} / Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an {{abbr|AI|title=artificial intelligence}} repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) / ([[EC:9k/RD/Q618-UraniumRule|9k]]) | |||
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atomic table of behavioral rules
(existential materialism) / periodic table of rules (sic — they're not actually quantized or periodized; "atomic" is fine though)- existential-materialist metallic rule
Rules
Game-theoretic rules
iron rule
/ Do unto others before they do unto you / Do unto others to prevent them from doing harm unto you (game theory, Toryism, Gramscianism) / third law of robotics: a robot should protect itself from harm (science fiction; generic) [1]lead rule
/ Do unto others as they would do unto you (literal) / Do unto others as they would like to do unto you (game theory, Toryism, Gramscianism) / Do unto others as they have done to others / Do unto others as others have done unto you / (9k)uranium rule
/ Do unto others as upper classes should do unto you / Don't do what you would not want uniquely privileged upper-class people to do (uranium inverse) / Do not what will filter up / Do not unto others as upper classes should not do unto you (game theory, Liberal-republicanism) / Stupidity filters up (existential materialism; generic) / / (9k)americium rule
/ Do unto others as lower classes should do unto you / Do not what will filter down (americium inverse) / Don't do in an upper class or position of authority what you don't want common people to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) / Do not unto others as lower classes should not do unto you / sword of Damocles (generic) [2] / (9k)hydrogen rule
/ Do unto other countries as other countries should do unto you / Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do (game theory, Deng Xiaoping Thought) -> countries are sometimes but not always separated by water, as with Japan, the Korean peninsula, or England and France. water contains hydrogen ions.palladium rule
/ Do unto others what you would have them do when you are in their position / Treat others as you would in the knowledge that you could one day be them / Give Jesus your coat (generic) / individual veil of ignorance / veil of ignorance (John Rawls; generic) [3] / (9k)silicon rule
/ Do not put into a computer system what you do not want an AI repeating or acting on / uranium rule (sub-case applying to powerful owners of cutting-edge LLM corporations) / (9k)
Descriptive rules
- nickel rule / Anything done once accumulates / Anything that happens once accumulates / All Ideals reach extremes / Every Ideal reaches its extreme / Every Ideal reaches its extreme in some person or situation if it is practiced at all / Murphy's law (generic) / Anything not done once does not accumulate (nickel inverse) / Every Ideal not practiced does not reach its extreme (nickel inverse) / (9k)
nickel rule + ?? = golden rule. - cobalt rule / Anything chosen once accumulates / All choices reach extremes / Every opinion, preference, or deliberate action reaches its extreme in somebody if it is practiced at all / Anything never chosen does not accumulate (cobalt inverse) / (9k)
- livermorium rule / Judge the moral valence of ideologies that have not been realized by their most likely results if they ever had been been realized into a stable state / Do not do what it would be possible that others should not do unto you -> this is verging on deontology but it doesn't quite go there because it doesn't focus on intended results specifically and instead tries to sketch out a plausible real situation so the consequences can be judged through the range of various forms of ethics that exist for real situations.
Prescriptive rules
- thallium rule / Submit all actions to God / Yield your and others' actions to God / Whatever God tells you to do you everyone has to do instead of what anyone wants / No, sir, I can't imagine a soft pretzel without butter; I certainly wouldn't serve you one / (9k)
- golden rule / Treat others as you would treat yourself / Do unto others as you would have them do unto you / Love thy neighbor as thyself (statement that may explicitly only extend to people in the same population; Christian Old Testament) / We should conduct ourselves toward others as we would have them act toward us (Aristotle) / Do not do unto others as they should not do unto you (golden inverse) / We shouldn't do to anyone what we wouldn't want done to us / the whole Torah (description of Torah as summarized by inverse golden rule) / (9k)
- silver rule (golden inverse) / Do not treat others as you would not treat yourself / (9k)
- bronze rule (golden converse) / Others' actions for yourself / Treat yourself as you would treat others / Do unto you as you do unto others / (9k)
- platinum rule / Treat others as they would like to be treated / (9k)
cultural relativism proposition + ?? = platinum rule. platinum rule + ?? = cultural relativism proposition. - xenon rule / Do what others would "unto" / Produce the actions of how others would like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Act as others would / Do not what others would not "unto" (xenon inverse) / Do not unto others what they would not decide / Do not what others would not normally-see-happen-as-a-spontaneous-event-unto-them / Do not bring on others a way they would not like to be treated, regardless of the existence of "you" / Do not act as others would not act in your place / Nothing should be done unless others consider it wonderful / Nothing should be done unless everyone considers it wonderful / (Q36,67)
- steel rule / Stalin repeats your actions / Do what Stalin should do (steel inverse) / Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do / Do not have rules or policies in government or socioeconomic institutions that you would not want Stalin's government to have (ethics) / The United States was justified to win the Cold war because it was nothing like Stalin's government (sense) ->
I was always implicitly told before about the age of 18 that the United States won the Cold War because it followed this steel rule. but as I got older and saw how often it was broken I realized that that statement was almost totally false.
Others' actions for yourself (bronze rule) + thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government = steel rule.
Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do + Soviet Union / East Germany / People's republic of China = steel rule. - "Do not do what you do not want other sovereign countries to do" -> the PRC actually follows this rule day-to-day while the United States doesn't. it's actually a rather big idea in Deng Xiaoping Thought to try to get other countries to stop doing what they're doing through non-aggression.
Related
- metallic rule / (9k)
- metallic rules and prisoner's dilemma -> it's super easy for people to present metallic rules as the false solution to this but the problem is they don't actually give any control over the other person's decisions, which is to say whether the other person will follow the metallic rules in the first place. the prisoner's dilemma is still in place.
- germanium -> found in "silver, lead, and copper ores". this weirdly suggests the content of a possible germanium rule already. silver rule: golden inverse. copper rule: either defined as iron rule or platinum rule.
silver rule: Do not unto others as they should not do unto you. platinum rule: Do (not) unto others as they would (not) have you do unto them; others do (not) do unto you as you would (not) have them do. iron rule, lead rule: Do unto others before they do unto you.
the silver rule is the conceptual opposite of the iron rule. maybe... this is the "bad" counterpart to the platinum rule? Do unto others whatever they expect you to do to them. man, that's one of the worst ones, that's a candidate for a halogen rule. I feel like germanium should be something at least somewhat interesting, like silicon. - Trotskyism is like livermorium: it's really big, but it falls apart and disappears immediately before it can even be observed
Ideologies or fields
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