Ontology talk:9k/RD/Q28,84: Difference between revisions

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statement that could have been said by either D'Souza or Stalin
Would this statement have a worse connotation coming out of Stalin's government? (question) / thing that would sound different coming out of Stalin's government (motif)
steel rule
(new metallic rule) / Do not do what you would not want Stalin to do / Do not have rules or policies in government or socioeconomic institutions that you would not want Stalin's government to have (ethics) / The United States was justified to win the Cold war because it was nothing like Stalin's government (sense) / (9k)

This is not a democracy
/ This is a republic, this is not a democracy -> Stalin would not tell you a republic is not a democracy, because for one thing, that would imply he makes all the rules.
Ask what you can do for your country
/ Ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country (John F. Kennedy) / (9k) -> this one is a little subjective. if you're a Communist this would sound better coming out of Stalin. for everyone else, it's horrifying.
No one watches the founders
/ I helped launch protogens, so I am not subject to the protogen rules / (9k) -> I helped found the Soviet Union, so I am exempt from the Communist Party rules. can you see why some people's response would be "that's not how rules work, rules apply to everybody"? ...

Voting doesn't create rights
/ Democratic processes don't create rights / If the government were the arbiter of our rights, then it could take them away / Bourgeois representatives cannot create human rights; this is to imply that only getting rid of capitalism can create rights (sense) / (9k) -> there really isn't enough space in the proposition label limit to fully clarify why this is a "good" remark for Stalin. it's the notion that bourgeois democracy doesn't actually create any meaningful rule by the people but Marxism at least opens up the possibility to probe what is wrong with society and how to get rid of capitalism and create a better society. pretty amazing compared with Bishop Robert Barron's appeal to rights literally coming from God.

[9k] statement from D'Souza or Stalin - Q28,84 ; thing that would sound different or worse coming out of Stalin's government

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+== Statements that would sound better coming out of Stalin ==
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+{{li|start=y|I=S2/HAS|Q=618|Q2=618|h4= Voting doesn't create rights }} / Democratic processes don't create rights / If the government were the arbiter of our rights, then it could take them away / Bourgeois representatives cannot create human rights; this is to imply that only getting rid of capitalism can create rights (sense) / ({{9k|RD/Q618-GodGivenRights}})  ->  there really isn't enough space in the proposition label limit to fully clarify why this is a "good" remark for Stalin. it's the notion that bourgeois democracy doesn't actually create any meaningful rule by the people but Marxism at least {{em|opens up the possibility}} to probe what is wrong with society and how to get rid of capitalism and create a better society. pretty amazing compared with Bishop Robert Barron's appeal to rights literally coming from God.
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