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{{li|start=y|I=S2/LR|tradition= | {{li|start=y|I=S2/LR|tradition=|Q=17,55|Q2=1755|h4 = 5th Amendment }} [https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment] / The prosecution can't call the defendant (United States) {{YouTube|xu6ZRWp9rA4}} | ||
{{li|I=S2/LR|tradition= | {{li|I=S2/LR|tradition=|Q=17,55|Q2=1755}}Requiring a trial verdict within three days of arrest is so bad the Magna Carta should have been able to prohibit it [https://web.archive.org/web/20150426105736/https://tay.kotaku.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-1694116058/+andrasneltz] | ||
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{{li|start=y|I=S2/Fy|tradition=|Q=618|Q2=618}}Don't ask a lawyer to find all the small details that don't add up; they will find all the structural problems in the mystery or crime story as well as the stated details [https://web.archive.org/web/20201108091537/https://tay.kinja.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-justic-1695273699] -> so you're telling me lawyers make good fiction writers if they felt like it. interesting thought. | |||
{{li|I=S2/Fy|tradition=|Q=618|Q2=618}}{{game|Justice for All}} did not really explore the problem of what it means to be a defense attorney; the concept of Phoenix only having to defend the innocent was not necessarily challenged because the second layer of consequences simplified things rather than complicated them [https://web.archive.org/web/20201108091537/https://tay.kinja.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-justic-1695273699] -> huh. I didn't think too deeply until now about the fact that this was a classic ethics thought experiment of changing the outcome of a fitting action and seeing what happens. very nice observation. | |||
{{li|I=S2/LR|tradition=|Q=618|Q2=618}}Attorneys don't decide the outcome of the case, so their ethical opinion on the "Guilty / Not Guilty" axis in particular doesn't matter | |||
{{li|I=S2/LR|tradition=|Q=618|Q2=618}}In the real world Phoenix would not be allowed to represent someone in a crime he was already a witness to; this happens to partially shield him from, and likely prevent, the dramatic situation of the criminal blackmailing witnesses [https://web.archive.org/web/20201108091537/https://tay.kinja.com/a-lawyer-revisits-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-justic-1695273699] | |||
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Latest revision as of 08:37, 17 June 2026
Main entry
- lawyers react to Ace Attorney / real lawyer reacts to Ace Attorney -> a motif to contain various specific criticisms lawyers have made about the games.
- lawyers react to Ace Attorney / "it was funny how inaccurate it was" [1]
AA1
5th Amendment
[2] / The prosecution can't call the defendant (United States) [3]- Requiring a trial verdict within three days of arrest is so bad the Magna Carta should have been able to prohibit it [4]
AA2
- Don't ask a lawyer to find all the small details that don't add up; they will find all the structural problems in the mystery or crime story as well as the stated details [5] -> so you're telling me lawyers make good fiction writers if they felt like it. interesting thought.
- Justice for All did not really explore the problem of what it means to be a defense attorney; the concept of Phoenix only having to defend the innocent was not necessarily challenged because the second layer of consequences simplified things rather than complicated them [6] -> huh. I didn't think too deeply until now about the fact that this was a classic ethics thought experiment of changing the outcome of a fitting action and seeing what happens. very nice observation.
- Attorneys don't decide the outcome of the case, so their ethical opinion on the "Guilty / Not Guilty" axis in particular doesn't matter
- In the real world Phoenix would not be allowed to represent someone in a crime he was already a witness to; this happens to partially shield him from, and likely prevent, the dramatic situation of the criminal blackmailing witnesses [7]
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Ideology codes
- LR / Liberal-republicanism