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{{li|start=y|I=M3/MX|tradition=MX, IV|Q=31,60|Q2=3160}}At what moment does Communism "stop working"? | {{li|start=y|I=M3/MX|tradition=MX, IV|Q=31,60|Q2=3160}}At what moment does Communism "stop working"? | ||
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== Marxism and God == | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S2/HAS|Q=23,03|Q2=2303|h4= Extraordinary events must have happened }} / ({{9k|RD/Q23,02}}) | |||
{{li|I=S2/STM|Q=23,04|Q2=2304|h4= Extraordinary events are unlikely }} / ({{9k|RD/Q23,02}}) | |||
{{li|I=S2/Fy |Q=23,02|Q2=2302|h4= Unicorns are incredible }} / Something with no way of existing existing is more impressive than something that can easily exist (Douglas Gasking) / ({{9k|RD/Q23,02}}) | |||
{{li|I=S2/ML|Q=23,05|Q2=2305}}A Marxism that exists is more perfect / A Marxism that exists is more perfect than a Marxism that doesn't / actually existing socialism (motif that a Marxism which has been realized to any degree is better than a Marxism which has not been realized) / ({{9k|RD/Q23,02}}) -> in Stalin's Marxism [modern] the concept of "Bolshevism existing" or "Communism working" is equated with a physical workers' state itself. | |||
{{li|I=S2/IV|Q=23,05|Q2=2305}}A Marxism that exists is more perfect -> in Trotskyism, "Marxism existing" is equated with parties actually understanding Marxism regardless of whether a physical "people's republic" exists, and not simply settling for a [[EC:9k/RD/Q90|crimson materialism]] that doesn't contain dialectical materialism; Marxism is more "perfect" when it exists, but if blatant liquidators exist Marxism does not exist, or to be more precise, it shortly ceases to exist in a temporal process of collapse. | |||
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== Dinosaurs and light bulbs == | |||
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== Communism and AI == | |||
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{{li|start=y|I=S2/MX|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto ML|Q=31,63|Q2=3163}}Communism is more effective than AGI / Bolshevism is more effective than artificial general intelligence in that the [[E:socialism (Stalin's Marxism)|Material System of Bolshevism]] has been realized at least once, but machine learning has never physically realized a computer implementing artificial general intelligence | |||
{{li|I=S2/MX|tradition=MX onto LLM, MX onto IV|Q=31,64|Q2=3164}}AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat | |||
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|I=Z1/IV|Q=41,04|Q2=4104}}{{TTS|IV|Fourth}} / Trotskyism | |I=Z1/MX|Q=83|Q2=83}}{{TTS|MN|Marxism}} / [[EC:9k/RD/Q83|dialectical materialism]] | ||
{{li|I=S1/MX|Q=92|Q2=92}}{{TTS|MX|meta-Marxism}} / meta-Marxism | |||
{{li|I=S1/MX|Q=44,44|Q2=4444}}{{TTS|MX|meta-Marxism}} / Trotskyism as meta-Marxism | |||
{{li|I=Z1/IV|Q=41,04|Q2=4104}}{{TTS|IV|Fourth}} / Trotskyism | |||
{{li|I=Z0/ML|Q=90|Q2=90}}{{TTS|MX onto ML|meta-Marxism onto Stalinism}} / [[EC:9k/RD/Q90|apparent forms of Marxism]] | |||
{{li|I=Z0/LR|Q=90|Q2=90}}{{TTS|MX onto LR|meta-Marxism onto Menshevism}} / apparent forms of Marxism | |||
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Revision as of 02:27, 26 August 2026
Main entry
- At what moment does Communism "stop working"?
Marxism and God
Extraordinary events must have happened
/ (9k)Extraordinary events are unlikely
/ (9k)Unicorns are incredible
/ Something with no way of existing existing is more impressive than something that can easily exist (Douglas Gasking) / (9k)- A Marxism that exists is more perfect / A Marxism that exists is more perfect than a Marxism that doesn't / actually existing socialism (motif that a Marxism which has been realized to any degree is better than a Marxism which has not been realized) / (9k) -> in Stalin's Marxism [modern] the concept of "Bolshevism existing" or "Communism working" is equated with a physical workers' state itself.
- A Marxism that exists is more perfect -> in Trotskyism, "Marxism existing" is equated with parties actually understanding Marxism regardless of whether a physical "people's republic" exists, and not simply settling for a crimson materialism that doesn't contain dialectical materialism; Marxism is more "perfect" when it exists, but if blatant liquidators exist Marxism does not exist, or to be more precise, it shortly ceases to exist in a temporal process of collapse.
Dinosaurs and light bulbs
Communism and AI
- Communism is more effective than AGI / Bolshevism is more effective than artificial general intelligence in that the Material System of Bolshevism has been realized at least once, but machine learning has never physically realized a computer implementing artificial general intelligence
- AGI is as effective as Trotskyism / Machine learning is just as effective as Trotskyism in that machine learning never produces artificial general intelligence and Trotskyism never produces a durable "orange" uniquely-Trotskyist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat
Related
Ideologies or fields
- / dialectical materialism
- / meta-Marxism
- / Trotskyism as meta-Marxism
- / Trotskyism
- / apparent forms of Marxism
- / apparent forms of Marxism